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Post by flover88 on Apr 5, 2012 20:49:50 GMT -5
I agree with everything you said. But I am pretty sure Stelena is endgame so maybe they will do Datherine or even have Dabekah if they don't get rid of the orginals. so in a since Bonnie was more like Caroline in the books, its sad that they changed her so dramtically. I love how strong she is tho  Exactly they have established who cares for who and deep down in my heart I really think beremy is endgame. As for Jassie...I don't get it....I mean isn't Jassie the more popular ship or is it Cadam? |
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Post by lemily23 on Apr 5, 2012 23:24:41 GMT -5
I agree with everything you said. But I am pretty sure Stelena is endgame so maybe they will do Datherine or even have Dabekah if they don't get rid of the orginals. so in a since Bonnie was more like Caroline in the books, its sad that they changed her so dramtically. I love how strong she is tho Exactly they have established who cares for who and deep down in my heart I really think beremy is endgame. As for Jassie...I don't get it....I mean isn't Jassie the more popular ship or is it Cadam? I'm sure SE will be endgame. I can't see her giving Stefan up completely, but I can see her giving Damon up. I think deep down she cares about Damon, but doesn't love him like she loves Stefan. Plus, SE has been here from the start. All that buildup... And Damon will prob end up with Katherine or Rebekah or maybe someone we haven't even met yet. Someone who will be in love with him and not Stefan. Damon's gotta get his own girl. At times like these I sort of miss Rose. Yea, they changed Bonnie drastically, but I don't mind. I like the Bonnie on the show better. She fights like hell for the things she believes in and the people she loves. Oh yea you're right.. I never thought of the Caroline on the show being like the Bonnie in the books. She kind of is. I love how they changed like all the characters making them a million times better on the show. Like I couldn't stand book Elena and show Elena is soooo much better! In my heart I truly believe Beremy will be endgame. I don't care what the writers want us to believe but Jeremy loved Bonnie more than anything. I don't know what's going on with tsc. The writers are making it seem like Cadam are some epic love story when they've only been together for like 4 episodes. Jassie had more buildup. And they conveniently forgot about Diana and Adam making it seem like it's actually Cassie he's been dating for years. Get real! I'm not sure if Jassie are more popular, but I know that no one I know likes Cadam and they all love Jassie. . I can't see why anyone could like Cadam. They are such an awful and unlikeable pair, but the writers seem determined to go with them for some stupid reason. |
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Post by flover88 on Apr 6, 2012 0:36:25 GMT -5
OMG OMG OMG I AM CRACKING UP RIGHT NOW. I JUST FOUND OUT RATINGS ON TSC HAVE DECLINED EVER SINCE THEY PUT CADAM TOGETHER...A LOT OF PEOPLE STOPPED WATCHING. WHEN JAKE AND CASSIE WERE TOGETHER WERE WAY HIGHER LOL THAT IS TOO FUNNY. I WANT TO BELEIVE IN JASSIE BUT I DON'T WANT TO GET MY HOPES UP AND GET DISAPPOINED. i REALLY LOVE THAT COUPLE. EVERYONE I KNOW CAN'T STAND CADAM EITHER...CADAM IS A VERY RARE SHIPPING AND I THINK THE CADAM SHIPPERS JUST ARE LOVING IT COZ OF THE BOOK.
EXACTLY! JEREMY WAS CRAZY ABOUT BONNIE, HE WOULD OF DONE ANYTHING FOR HER...SO THEY BETTER JUST BE TRYING TO THROW US OFF.
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Post by soraya1982 on Apr 6, 2012 7:57:22 GMT -5
I still have hope for Beremy
because Jamie is a guest star
Bonnie said, because "I love him"
Jeremy wanted to die because of Bonnie.
The writers confuse me.
I'm waiting for Episode 19 and more on 20th EPISODE
In episode 19 is missing Bonnie, sorry.
But in episode 20, I hope to BEREMy.
Have you noticed that Bonnie was in episode 18 more air time than 2 minutes?
I think the FAN COMPLAINTS have been worth it.
Since the Bonnie fans boycotting the series go down the odds.
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Post by lemily23 on Apr 6, 2012 12:33:07 GMT -5
yea, Bonnie loves Jeremy and her love for him brought him back from the dead. You can't just have that happen and then be over like you were never a couple. What was the point? At least both Bonnie and Jeremy will be in episode 20 and they better interact. OMG OMG OMG I AM CRACKING UP RIGHT NOW. I JUST FOUND OUT RATINGS ON TSC HAVE DECLINED EVER SINCE THEY PUT CADAM TOGETHER...A LOT OF PEOPLE STOPPED WATCHING. WHEN JAKE AND CASSIE WERE TOGETHER WERE WAY HIGHER LOL THAT IS TOO FUNNY. I WANT TO BELEIVE IN JASSIE BUT I DON'T WANT TO GET MY HOPES UP AND GET DISAPPOINED. i REALLY LOVE THAT COUPLE. EVERYONE I KNOW CAN'T STAND CADAM EITHER...CADAM IS A VERY RARE SHIPPING AND I THINK THE CADAM SHIPPERS JUST ARE LOVING IT COZ OF THE BOOK. EXACTLY! JEREMY WAS CRAZY ABOUT BONNIE, HE WOULD OF DONE ANYTHING FOR HER...SO THEY BETTER JUST BE TRYING TO THROW US OFF. LOL! Their ratings went down? For real? Serves them right. I'm not sure if it's all because of Cadam, but it is funny that it went down right when they got together. Yea, I guess if anyone loves Cadam it's because of the books because on the show they are as annoying as hell. I don't know how pple can stand them, let alone ship them together. Yes! The phony events of Season 3 will not make me believe Jeremy never loved Bonnie when I know that he OBVIOUSLY did. Sorry writers, but it was all over his face. He wouldn't even let Bonnie save his own sister because Bonnie could die. So, basically, he couldn't choose between Elena and Bonnie's life. You don't do these things if you're not in love with the person. The writers cannot tell me that this boy (who would do anything for Bonnie) did not love her. What the writers want me to believe is complete bull. They don't know their own story. |
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Post by soraya1982 on Apr 7, 2012 10:44:36 GMT -5
@lemliy23
That was with ANNA / JEREMY only fanfiction and untrustworthy.
The fans were about the whole matter is not satisfied with GHOST TVD.
Jeremy wanted to die for Bonnie and repeatedly (Episode 2x10 and 2x18).
The writers can not make as if never happened between Bonnie and Jeremy.
You got the receipt for it. The viewing figures go down forever. Especially after what JP has done with the Bonnie fans.
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Post by flover88 on Apr 7, 2012 10:44:54 GMT -5
I mean I love JUlie and all because she ships SE but she needs to leave the Beremy writing to Kevin because she clearly she doesnt know their story! Exactly...Jeremy told Stefan he wasn't going to choose btwn them!!! so maybe Jeremy will fight for BOnnie...just maye Yes the ratings have gone down and someone pointed that out on twitter the other day and the main secrect circle page tweeted back saying keep watching you won't be disappointed. |
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Post by lemily23 on Apr 7, 2012 16:44:09 GMT -5
I agree. I wonder if Kevin still likes Beremy? Or still wants them together? I know they were definitely his idea and he did them justice last season. He seemed quite pleased with them. I know I wanted more development, but considering they are not the main tri the writing was pretty good for them. They were beautiful together and I was actually expecting more development in S3. I don't think Julie's a huge Bonnie fan to be honest. Either that or she hit her head and had amnesia forgetting all of Season 2. If/when we get a Beremy reunion I'm almost positive it will be KW's doing. Oh that's great! Maybe we'll get Jassie.  |
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Post by flover88 on Apr 7, 2012 17:50:56 GMT -5
Same here! I love Bonnie but some Bonnie fans get on my nerves talking about how they disreguard her. they don't but Bonnie is not the main. the main is Stefan, Elena and Damon so of course Bonnie is not going to get all the attention. but I agree I thoguth they were handled very nicely in season 2 considering they were not a main ship. Idk I think Kevin likes them but I think he and Juile are too fousced on the triangle right now they don't have time to really think of other ships onto Adam and Cassie...why do you think the writers favor them over Jake and Cassie  |
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Post by lemily23 on Apr 7, 2012 20:32:58 GMT -5
Same here! I love Bonnie but some Bonnie fans get on my nerves talking about how they disreguard her. they don't but Bonnie is not the main. the main is Stefan, Elena and Damon so of course Bonnie is not going to get all the attention. but I agree I thoguth they were handled very nicely in season 2 considering they were not a main ship. Idk I think Kevin likes them but I think he and Juile are too fousced on the triangle right now they don't have time to really think of other ships onto Adam and Cassie...why do you think the writers favor them over Jake and Cassie I'm a Bonnie fan, but I definitely see what you mean about some of the other Bonnie fans. They can be downright vicious sometimes. One thing that really annoyed me was how some of them seemed to think Jeremy was beneath her when they were together last season. She had a great guy that would have done anything for her and yet because he's not a supernatural that wants to kill her he's slime? Ever since then I stopped paying attention to those kinds of fans. I'm not a huge fan of how she has been treated this season, but I was fine with what was shown of Bonnie in season 1 and I agree that in season 2 her romantic relationship with Jeremy was handled very nicely. I wasn't much of a complainer on that front and I used to think a lot of the other Bonnie fans were kind of bitter downers. It's not like the writers were out to get her or anything.  About Cassie and Adam I think the writers like them because of the books. I haven't read any of the books, but from what I know it was some sort of triangle with Adam/Cassie/Diana but then Cassie was with some guy named Nick? All I know is that Adam and Cassie ended up together. I don't know where they are planning on going with the show, but they started promoting it with Adam and Cassie. Before Jake showed up, I thought Cadam was going to be THE couple of TSC. I guess it's a different story now since Jake is in the picture. I hope the writers will eventually give Jassie their chance and maybe even end up together. |
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Post by flover88 on Apr 7, 2012 21:46:18 GMT -5
Exactly! I follow some Bonnie fans on Tumblr because they are beremy shippers but omg they legit piss me off. They always complain about how Juile hates the bonnie fanom, and how bonnie gets the shorhand of the stick and how they don't care about bonnie or they use bonnie like a puppet.. and bleh blah blah Yes I don't like how she was treated this year but I also have to remember kat has been working on an album and she may not have the freetime that she had in pursay season 1 and 2! Exactly just because Jeremy is younger and not a vampire or witch, he is not worth? gtf0! Jeremy is the most worthy of bonnie. Yes he messed up but tell me again how many times damon has messed up yet delenas dont say he not worthy of elena. same with stefan( love him lol) and even tyler. all of the guys mess up its part of maturing!
I get that Adam and Cassie were epic in the books but that is not showing in the show. Adam and Cassie just don't have chemistry point blank. Do you think the writers are not even open to the idea of Jake and Cassie...or do you think they trying to buld them up?
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Post by lemily23 on Apr 7, 2012 22:28:56 GMT -5
For some reason I think the more those fans bother the writers about Bonnie, the worse it will get for her.I'm not trying to bad talk the Bonnie fans because a lot of them are really great, but the ones that are a little too intense, I think, have a tendency to push a lot. I remember reading comments before and while I love Bonnie and all I remember thinking "wow, calm down." I haven't seen Caroline fans like that, or Tyler fans like that or even Jeremy fans like that for the treatment of their characters. I don't even know if Matt has any fans since you never hear from them. They are just secondary characters, and even though I love them more than the main three I know that they won't be focused on as much. I agree! Characters mess up and they were even saying that about Jer before Season 3. It's like get real people. He was a good guy and he still can be one. Why does Bonnie have to be better than him because she can do magic? They are both equally good characters in my eyes. True! Cadam are just not working on the show. They don't have any chemistry and I think that is the reason the writers are trying to create all of these obstacles for them. They want to make them appear interesting, but instead are making them come across more forced. I'm not sure where the writers stand with Jake and Cassie. I haven't read any articles on them, but going on the show alone I think the writers are open to them. If they weren't, they would never have introduced Jake and make Chris Zylka a regular. They also probably wouldn't have made him interested in Cassie and Cassie have feelings for him before. I hope they realize people love them and maybe they will have their chance. I don't think it's over between Jassie yet. |
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Post by flover88 on Apr 7, 2012 22:50:05 GMT -5
Exactly! I am not trying to bad mouth Bonnie fans either but some of them are too intense and legit take everything so freakin personal ...it's like chill! Yes I get upset but we have known from day 1 this is Stefan's story not Bonnie's so she not going to be the center focus. I love Jeremy, Stefan and Bonnie those are my characters that I want happy. But if some bad crap goes on for my characters I am not going to start saying lets boycott the show or sending Juile and Kevin rude tweets. Honestly I feel Julie doesnt like Bonnie fans not because she doesnt like BOnnie but because Bonnies fandom is soo...intesne and just crazy sometimes.
Yes! I feel the writers think by giving Cadam more things to overcome,it will make them epic...but in reality it just makes you not ship them any less than you already do. The majority of people don't like Cadam...I mean they are so uninteresting and I feel like I'm watching brother and sister hook up. I find it funny how even when Cassie says those snarky remarks to Jake i still feel the heat and it totoally takes away from Cadam. Jake and Cassie are hot together. MYabe the writers are undecided. I remember since season 1 Kevin and Juile knew this was Stefan and Elena's story, they just knew but with Cassie and Adam I don't get that feel...it's like they are trying to determine who they want the epic couple to be.
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Post by lemily23 on Apr 7, 2012 23:33:27 GMT -5
Some of them can get a little too intense, which makes me want to back away slowly. lol I don't read their comments/rants anymore since it just gets too much to handle at times and frankly it kind of depresses me. I'm usually very optimistic.  I remember being shocked because during Season 1 before I realized Bonnie had some intense outspoken fans I was such a fan (still am) and found the show really enjoyable. I wasn't angered by every little detail and I found it funny that some people felt so strongly about one single character on the show. And this is coming from a Bonnie fan. I don't watch the show for Bonnie alone. I watch for all of the amazing characters (I have very few favorites though). It's not to say that certain things don't ever upset me, or that I'm 100% okay with how these writers write some of the things they do, but I don't see how getting so worked up will help with anything. I'm not surprised if many people don't like Cadam. They literally bring out the worst in each other. Jassie on the other hand have so much potential to be great. Hot, intense chemistry isn't the only thing they have. They have so much more and they are actually interesting. I agree and think the writers are undecided as to which love story to tell. I'm hoping it will be Jassie's. |
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Post by soraya1982 on Apr 8, 2012 9:45:11 GMT -5
flover88
Yes, Bonnie is not even the main character, but Caroline.
Caroline, we get to see too much and she is no main character.
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