Book to Show - Thoughts?

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It feels like something the writers decided to drop altogether!

Like Zach Salvatore, what was the point of him? It was interesting that the Salvatores had another decendent who wasn't completely clueless to their vampirism but we barely got to know much about the guy and that was frustrating

Edit: And that was another thing. Their father's name screamed Italian so loud I don't think it could have been louder. I'm surprised out of all the name changes for most people. They left Guiseppe alone and went nowhere with it

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Feb 27, 2012 11:22:43 GMT -5 Doppelgänger said:

It always seems to lend an air of authenticity when they speak some other language, whatever it is, like in TB with the viking origins. The originals should have spoken something other than english as well, and I did enjoy the fact that Katherine's flashback wasn't in English.

They really should have. You mentioned TB as an example and even in UW, they still speak an old language in present day to carry out conversations among outsiders and the like who wouldn't even know what they were speaking of.

If it's an old language, they wouldn't have to worry about eavesdroppers cause the chances of others knowing what they were saying is well, none, if it dates back far enough and isn't commonplace anymore. They can still read the old script/cave drawings and we know Klaus doctored up legends in a few different languages to help find the Moonstone/Doppelganger so it seems like a misstep to not have them speak a native language.

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Feb 27, 2012 11:45:53 GMT -5 Doppelgänger said:

Plus I think Elijah said that the Salvatores were not, in fact, a founding family, at one point in an episode.

I thought Elijah's problem with the whole 'Founding Families' thing is they weren't 'Founding' of anything in the area. Maybe the Lockwoods but not everyone else to carry the title cause Elijah & his family + the Werewolf settlement was there in MF centuries before. I guess he found the title insulting/robbed of the people who were there before and never really got to develop the area because of what his father did?

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I remembering back to the tomb vampires who spoke english as clear as day

They should have at least had some form of other language going for them but I think the most the show will do is give people accents.

I do understand if Kat didn't speak Bulgarian anymore since there was no one for her to talk to but the Salvatores and the Originals could have talked amongst themselves . But maybe the writers didn't want people sending them all sorts of tweets about what the heck where they saying? Or would they just do the subtitle thing? Although seeing a subtitle randomly pop up for a word or two would be funny

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Just remembered 30 Days of Night also had the Vampires speaking another language.

I don't think they'd have to subtitle a word or two. I think sooner or later, people would catch on that Damon is cussing Just the conversations and maybe a few sentences here and there that were of importance. But I guess it'd just provide Damon too many opportunities to get away with a lot of things right in front of people

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Whenever Stefan and Damon go Italian I guess Elena could figure something is up and that they're keeping something from her. I'm pretty sure if she asked them what they were talking about and they responded sarcastically, "How nice out the weather is." she'd throw a fit

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Also about Meredith's character I don't like wher they're going with her in the show at the moment. I much rather she be an asset to the gang than to show up as an antagonistic suspect. Even if they were going the supernatural aspect of her like the books so that Alaric's ring can bring him back, why would Meredith even bother shooting him at all knowing that his ring brings him back from supernatural killings. If I remember correctly Alaric told her about his ring and it did leave the air of suspicision of whether or not she was supernatural.

But anyways I would have much rather her have been a part of the gang as the calm, level headed person as she is in the books. Which Elena needs someone like that considering how she gets with plans she needs someone there to be like hold on sista

Edit: And I just remembered a scene that I watched in the repeat last ep with Meredith and her boyfriend. He's saying things along the lines of, "You don't know what you're doing." and she's just brushing him off with her own snide remarks and when Alaric shows up she pulls the loud, "Stop it!" line.

Before I didn't think much of the scene since we barely knew her and it came off as her boyfriend being the bad guy and I can see now why he warned Alaric of her being crazy. His death by her makes more sense now if he was suspicious of her and could have 'outted' her.

Bleh but wish they brough her in as the cool, non psycho girl from the books

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I'm in the same boat of wanting Meredith to be sided with the gang like in the books and yeah, she knows about the ring so if she does have some supe in her, her shooting him is pointless unless she doesn't know she's got some supe in her in which point, she'll find out when Alaric wakes up. I think it would be nice if there was a female adult to confide in for Elena with a different viewpoint on things than Bonnie & Caroline. Someone to give her some decent advice which I think Meredith did a good job of covering (a mature tone to her). Jenna never got the chance as she had just found out about Vampires before being killed.

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I could see them going with the idea that she has no idea that she's a supernatural and have her be surprised when Alaric wakes up. I just don't see him dying and it's like give the guy a break already. Plus if he does die her character may be short lived on the show and at that point no one is going to want to listen to any advice she'd have to offer.

Until this whole 'psycho doctor' thing wears off I don't think anyone is going to warm up to her. Right now she needs to shake off her suspicions to Damon and he's already wary since she attacked him so she's not necessarily on his good side right now.

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Kind of a weird thought but I think if they had kept the 'ley lines' concept of the books and focused more on the town as a whole than the love triangle, they probably could have done a Buffy/Supernatural setup for the show where they face off against something new every [other] week or so with a main arc going on alongside that. Everyone would have to eventually learn some way to defend themselves/the town and would kind of make everyone more involved. I think that with that in mind, Klaus' proposition to protect the town would have been more enticing if they're on a regular basis dealing with some new supe coming to the place. It would also give a reason for a new, more powerful baddie to show up cause they're drawn to that power of the town and not just trying to center it all on Elena.

Of course, the idea runs with the basis that the show has enough monsters to draw from.