Theories on Silus

[Ruby2579]

[Ruby2579]

SO according to wiki Silus created the cure because he didnt want to live without his one true love

Over 2000 years ago, Silas was a extremely powerful warlock. He wanted to live forever with the woman he loved so he created a spell of immortality and his best friend, Qetsiyah, who was in love with him and also a witch helped him. As soon as he became immortal he planned on making his lover immortal too. However, Qetsiyah became enraged when she found out he was in love with another and killed his lover. Not wanting to live forever without his one true love Silas created a cure but before he used it on himself, Qetsiyah buried him alive along with the cure for all eternity.

What we have learned so far about Silas in Episode 10 and 9

• Silas will revive those sacrificed to bring him back
• Kol knows about Silas and does not want him to be resurrected
• Silas will bring Hell on Earth
• One of the keys to forfilling the spell the relive Silas is his tombstone
• The Map on the Hunters will reveal the spell that needs to be completed
• blood is the life force of all immortals as well as mentioned that Silas is an immortal.
• SO Silas can possibly be a Vampire and a Warlock since he does not rely on the spirits for magic but rather Expression (The power of sacrificed souls?)
• Or maybe Silas used expression as part of his immortality spell causing him to still have his magic while being immortal
• His name is derived from the roman god of forests which is ironic since vampires are considered the enemy of Nature.
• Silas's headstone is required to free him.(same as tombstone bullet)

[kat]

I have been thinking exactly like you Ruby for a long time as well, that Shane is in fact Silas himself and the cure is actually the means of getting his powers back and/or his special lady back. I cannot believe there aren't more people on this thread because this is a compelling thought and this is the central plot and will affect everything, including our ships probably.

In addition to the evidence you have gathered that Shane may in fact be Silas (even though he of course will claim to not be him for now atleast)...I have had these thoughts as well recently:

1. Shane and Silas both have names that start with a S. It would make since to change his name along with his identity but also at least choose a name that would be easy for him to catch onto as his own. 
2. Shane's relationship with Bonnie parallels his relationship with Qetsiyah (while Bonnie is presumably not in love with Shane, she is a close friend and he is using her for his purposes). He needs Bonnie's help but senses that she's out of control as well (similar to how he is using Qetsiyah and how she must have been out of control to not only have a spell  for immortality but also to have trapped Silas in his immortality and killed his girlfriend or wife in a fit of rage).
3. Shane is not just normally knowledgeable about expression and all aspects of magic because he also seems to have an instinctive understanding of magic, so maybe he was once a witch himself or has powers he is not sharing with them. Remember, Silas once had powers and he would understand magic himself in this way and had known many other witches. I don't believe that Shane's "travels" and studies ALONE would have been enough to give him this instinctive understanding of magic and all aspects of this tale.

A bunch of thoughts came from his brief conversation with Elena on the dock:
4. When he's having the conversation with Elena about Damon on the dock, he says that Bonnie told him about Elena's relationship with him. Bonnie doesn't usually seem all that chatty about Delena (either positive or negative) so I am wondering if he actually hypnotized it our or something OR if he's being told this by another person he's working with (like maybe Klaus). I also feel like when he said "I don't mean to pry..," he was actually hoping that Elena would open up more (because he wants more information) with that up front apology but she didn't. I mean it's possible that he was just told by Bonnie about their relationship but this COULD mean more as I suggested.
5. Also during the conversation with Elena on the dock, Shane let's it slip that he tried to find a spell to stop loving someone and "it's the ONE SPELL he hasn't found." Well, obviously this parallels Silas' situation because he EVEN found a spell for immortality but his love for a woman trapped leaving him and he was still in the agony of love while alone. If Shane is Silas, he might be hinting that he continues to suffer the agony of his love for the woman that was killed. His story about his wife and son seemed very much made up on the spot or a ready made cover story and of course he wouldn't be honest. Before Damon interrupted him, Elena seemed very much disturbed about his admission that "I have looked for a spell to make me stop loving someone, TRUST ME."
6. NOT TO MENTION that he compliments Damon for being intuitive. If he really thinks Damon is intuitive, then he may on some level know that Damon knows he's up to no good and they shouldn't trust him (for example: that he may in fact really want the cure for some reason, possibly to break his own immortality because he can't be with the one he loves or because the cure will lead to his powers coming back and/or his dead girlfriend)...because Damon has been that way toward him the whole time.

AND I know I am missing some things that will come to me later. I don't see why they would throw in all these similarities unless they were hinting that he is Silas the whole time or that he is driven to raise Silas because of their similar tragedies or his own loved one.

As you mentioned the tombstone, it's easy to see that if he wasn't Silas or didn't have a reason to need him raised a long time ago then why would he have the tombstone?

It's clear to me that if Shane is not Silas then he wants to raise Silas in order to get his girlfriend (and possible son) back.
We can see that he's praying on everyone's weakness to get them to bring about the cure ASAP...Bonnie's grieving/vulnerability with magic, Damon's insecurity about Elena's love, Stefan's need to confirm his fears about Elena or make it all go away, . I think he's using Klaus to reinforce this while praying on Klaus' weakness: his desire for more doppelganger blood.
Maybe there's another reason altogether and were totally wrong but WE KNOW that Shane is there for a reason other than just helping Bonnie out, they've made that clear to the audience.

SPOILERS:


I know that spoilers indicate that Shane may tell a seperate back story from that of Silas...doesn't mean it's true though!

[Slash]

I don't trust Shane's story about the Hunters being tasked with killing Silas because he wouldn't 'kill' himself cause it seems like too much trouble and pretty petty on the part of Witches to go that distance to release him just to kill him if he's already sealed away. However, if true of the Hunters, I'd imagine Alexander's sword is needed to kill Silas and it's not just a map or whatever.

I find it funny too how a Bennett is needed to break the sealing spell and it just so happens that the Spirits 'exiled/suspended' Bonnie which pushed her towards a Silas follower, at that, Bonnie being as powerful as she is. Spirits/Witches in this show lead to their own downfall/problems.

[Ruby2579]

Okay so we know now Silas wants to break the veil between the real world and the other world so all the supernatural beings can be resurrected.

We know he doesnt have power.maybe just a special ability of creating hallucinations or appearing as other people or ghost?

I have a theory that he might want to break the veil to find Quetsya or something? If she created the other world for the supernatural that means when she finally died her soul was placed there. This witch must have been out with a vengeance if she did all this to keep silas away from his true love. Not unless Thats not the real story and she did this to keep him from going crazy and evil?

[Doppelgänger]

I haven't rewatched yet but when Shane was explaining about it he mentioned you couldn't be a vampire and a witch at the same time and now he needs a witch so does that make him a vampire or what? Why'd he need Jer's blood? If he is then they might want to change the name from The Originals... guess I'll have to rewatch that scene and see what he said again.

[Ruby2579]

A theory about Silus

Why Shane Is a Silas Doppelganger

The sudden return of Katherine Pierce to steal the Cure instantly reminded viewers of the concept of a doppelganger. The Petrova line comes from Tatia, a girl whose blood was used in Esther's spell to create the Original Vampires. And every 500 years, a new doppelganger is born into that same bloodline, and the doppelganger is a powerful supernatural being whose blood is useful in major rituals.

But there's no evidence that this is the only doppelganger. In fact, knowing that a doppelganger line was created when a witch made the Original Vampires only makes it more likely that a doppelganger line was also created when Silas became the very first vampire and immortal.

Additionally, we learned from Hunter Vaughn that Katherine was working with Tyler's werewolf pal Hayley and that she told her about Silas and the Cure. But we also know Hayley was working for Professor Shane. So it's not a huge leap to assume that Shane and Katherine may have been in cahoots and that there's a connection between Silas and the Petrova doppelganger.

The most reasonable conclusion I can think of is not that Silas is simply a shapeshifter, but that he may be an original doppelganger and Professor Shane is the latest incarnation of his line.


What do you think? Is Silas just a shapeshifter who chooses to look like Shane to gain Bonnie's trust, or is he another doppelganger?

[Doppelgänger]

It's an illusion and he's not really there at all. Shane died on the island or at least was still on the island after Bonnie saw Shane in Mystic Falls. It's kind of far-fetched I think to think he's a doppelganger when Bonnie saw both Grams and a hurt Jeremy both of which were illusions previously so why would the Shane one be a doppelganger?

[Deleted]

I think it would be an interesting twist if it was the case but I agree I think he can create illusions, but I am not sure how he can without magic.... I guess it is part of his supernatural abilities.

[Slash]

They seemed to explain 'blood' as a necessity for immortality (?) so that would explain feeding on Jeremy. Hallucinations aside, wonder what sets him apart from Vampires though. What exactly makes him so dangerous? The power of deception/manipulation? He needs a powerful witch to do what he wants done cause he can't use magic himself, although he was a former Witch.

I wonder why he doesn't pursue the cure though. You would think he'd take it now, get his powers back, destroy the barrier himself and search the world for the immortality spell again (or manipulate Bonnie to do it) and cast it on him and his love this time.

He was desiccated so he couldn't exactly take the cure himself either. Was he even chained down?

[Ruby2579]

It would also explain why we havent heard any news about a casting for Silas Who knows

[Ruby2579]

This was the latest information from the last episode:

Fractured Fairy Tale History: When Silas was buried by Qetsiyah with The Cure, she left him two choices. Stay immortal and rot or take The Cure and eventually die in there of old age. Bonnie wanted to know if, after 2000 years, wouldn’t death by old age be better? Qetsiyah knew Silas wanted to die so that he’d find peace and be reunited with his one (unnamed) true lady-love (that Qetsiyah killed). So Qetsiyah created The Other Side, purgatory for all supernatural beings, so if Silas as immortal died he‘d end up there forever (and not in the afterlife with NoName). That’s where Bonnie, Qetsiyah’s descendant comes in.. Bonnie can make The Other Side go away.