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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2013 18:37:15 GMT -5
Okay Shane thinks that the dead will rise, maybe Kol knows this too and he is afraid of not only Silas, but Silas must of had friends and one point or what about the people that buried him? Maybe they will rise too? idk Just brainstorming.
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Post by Sweetluv4DE on Jan 25, 2013 19:25:43 GMT -5
Teppy I love your avatar! Kat is adorable! <3
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2013 19:37:31 GMT -5
Thanks!!! I wish I could take credit for making it, but I found it on tumblr.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2013 10:40:15 GMT -5
Okay I have thinking a lot about Shane and this whole hypnosis theory and I was chatting in the SE thread and I came to think about what if it is not Elena who is being hypnotized by Shane, but Damon? I mean if they control Damon and Elena is in fact sired to hm they control them both to do what they want, not to mention Bonnie who we already know is being hypnotized by him. I know it is not a theory you would all want because it would mean the sire bond is real, but it would make sense to why Shane is still alive because we all know Damon changed or not would have killed Shane by now and that BS about Bonnie not trusting Damon being the reason why he needs to be alive for the cure well Bonnie trust Elena and Caroline and well many people more then Shane (not hypnotized) and I think if Damon wasn't being manipulated then he would realize that.
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Post by Doppelgänger on Jan 26, 2013 10:46:46 GMT -5
And why would we all KNOW that Damon would have killed Shane by now? He has his suspicions about Shane, sure, but he's a bit tied up with all this sire bond BS at the moment to be too involved with trying to decide if he's really a threat worthy of being killed or not. Plus the guy knows where Silus is buried. That is what his real worth is to Damon.
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Post by Doppelgänger on Jan 26, 2013 10:50:46 GMT -5
The thing with Shane is that he could be hypnotizing any one of them or he could be hypnotizing just Bonnie who is making the rest happen with her witchy woo woo or otherwise. All we really know is that Shane could do it or he could be making Bonnie do it. I went back to try to find hints or clues but really didn't see anything obvious except what he's done to Bonnie.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2013 10:52:33 GMT -5
And why would we all KNOW that Damon would have killed Shane by now? He has his suspicions about Shane, sure, but he's a bit tied up with all this sire bond BS at the moment to be too involved with trying to decide if he's really a threat worthy of being killed or not. I am sorry, that did sound harsh. if you look back at Damon's track record when he has suspicions as strong as he does with Shane he usually takes care f the problem and Professor Shane pretty much admitted to killing those people in that scene at the Miss Mystic Dance. I rewatched the scene and it was just not right (I mean this is just a theory) and I was not trying to put Damon down I see how my wording was not great.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2013 10:56:30 GMT -5
The thing with Shane is that he could be hypnotizing any one of them or he could be hypnotizing just Bonnie who is making the rest happen with her witchy woo woo or otherwise. All we really know is that Shane could do it or he could be making Bonnie do it. I went back to try to find hints or clues but really didn't see anything obvious except what he's done to Bonnie. You are right there is nothing obvious, but I was thinking back and I should read back to what Sweet put up about evidence of Shane hypnotizing Elena and I wanted to see if that could be flipped into him hypnotizing Damon. Just a theory I wanted to throw out there. I have not researched it sufficiently to say it is a HUGE possibility, but I thought it was worth mentioning it could be possible.
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Post by Ruby2579 on Jan 26, 2013 10:57:33 GMT -5
But Shane gave him a reason not to kill him which was the stuff with the cure. He could be manipulative and he knows they need him to finding the cure
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Post by Doppelgänger on Jan 26, 2013 10:58:46 GMT -5
And why would we all KNOW that Damon would have killed Shane by now? He has his suspicions about Shane, sure, but he's a bit tied up with all this sire bond BS at the moment to be too involved with trying to decide if he's really a threat worthy of being killed or not. I am sorry, that did sound harsh. if you look back at Damon's track record when he has suspicions as strong as he does with Shane he usually takes care f the problem and Professor Shane pretty much admitted to killing those people in that scene at the Miss Mystic Dance. I rewatched the scene and it was just not right (I mean this is just a theory) and I was not trying to put Damon down I see how my wording was not great. You're still reinforcing it with this post. If you want to debate Damon's likelihood of killing someone just because, then make a debate about it cause I do not agree with that statement. There'd be alot more dead people in MF if it were true.
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Post by Doppelgänger on Jan 26, 2013 11:01:41 GMT -5
Damon was threatening with him, sure, but that's him warning him not to be a problem. He's threatened alot of people that are still alive.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2013 11:01:55 GMT -5
I am sorry, that did sound harsh. if you look back at Damon's track record when he has suspicions as strong as he does with Shane he usually takes care f the problem and Professor Shane pretty much admitted to killing those people in that scene at the Miss Mystic Dance. I rewatched the scene and it was just not right (I mean this is just a theory) and I was not trying to put Damon down I see how my wording was not great. You're still reinforcing it with this post. If you want to debate Damon's likelihood of killing someone just because, then make a debate about it cause I do not agree with that statement. There'd be alot more dead people in MF if it were true. I don't want to debate that. It is just a part of my theory and a personality trait that I associate with Damon. If that part of theory does not ring true to you that is fine you do not have to comment on it or just say you think it is not going to be true because you do not think Damon would do that. I was not trying to start a debate I was just stating a theory... that's all.
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Post by Doppelgänger on Jan 26, 2013 11:03:13 GMT -5
As for the theory, like I said, it's possible he could have hypnotized any of them really, although I doubt he'd get so much flak off Damon if he had hynotized him.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2013 11:23:19 GMT -5
Further evidence of my theory? ? Ok this is really interesting ON TUMBLR But, seriously, she says “I was ready to fight you on this, but suddenly every part of my body is telling me to get in this car and leave you”. Suddenly. As in right then. As in right after looking at Shane in the window. Not when Damon said “I’m setting you free” or “You’re gonna go home”. Because some amount of time had to have passed before Elena and Bonnie leave the lake house. But she says “suddenly”. Okay, so I noticed this before, but here is some proof that Shane may have been hypnotizing Elena into leaving the lake house at the end of 4x09 and to ensure that she and Damon think they’re sired. In the first picture, you see a person in the window (it can only be Shane, everyone else is outside). In the second, you see Elena looking back and Jeremy (and the window where Shane is), before looking back at Damon and commenting on how she “was ready to fight [Damon] on this, but suddenly every part of [her] body is telling [her] to get in the car and leave [him]”. I looked back at this scene and I was thinking about it and it works with this theory of Elena being hypnotized, but why would Shane do this? Shane could be doing like what was stated above- to give them motivation for the cure, but if that is the case why go through such an elaborate scheme why not just hypnotize Elena in wanting the cure and if she wanted the cure then Damon and Stefan would want it too. Why make her fake sired? And would he even have to that because I am pretty sure that Elena would want the cure anyway. If anything she seems like she does not want the cure and only Damon and Stefan do and if she wasn't hypnotized she would want the cure.... is this making sense? So I think that he is controlling Damon, Jeremy, Bonnie. Because yes Jeremy is a hunter, but why does he only want to kill Elena. Not Stefan or Damon, but always dreaming about and wanting to kill Elena. That seems weird right? Then Damon he has had many conversations with Damon always with Damon accusing him of mass murder and always with Shane coming out fine in the end. I think that Stefan or Damon if they had those conversations would have looked into how to get rid of him instead of thinking they need him. He does have knowledge, but they have what he wants-Bonnie. So did he influence Damon to tell Elena to go so he could further hypnotize the three of them? It was Damon's idea to have Bonnie be Jeremy's humanity.... idk like I said just ideas but I think it is plausible and of course he could be doing it to all of them... good theory as well. I could see any of 'em being true.
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Post by Ruby2579 on Jan 26, 2013 11:30:34 GMT -5
For Vampire diaries to pull this off I would give them major props but be.pissed as well hahahahah gotta love tv drama ;D
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