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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2013 14:11:21 GMT -5
Here it is: "It`s a lie you know. There`s no switch you can turn off. Sure, when you`re a newbie. But after a couple of hundred years you just have to pretend." Rose, Season 2, Episode 09 - Katerina aaah yes... I guess it does not apply to Elena then. Well I am being stuburn and still thinking she felt things in this episode and that is what sparked many of her actions, but I see that is speculation verses fact.
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Post by Doppelgänger on Apr 20, 2013 14:14:49 GMT -5
I don't know if it is speculation because that's exactly what they are trying to make her do. Those feelings are there inside of her, buried, so they are trying to get to them and have her want to turn them back on. I just didn't see anything particularly convincing to me that she felt something much. I guess the fear, since they confirmed that. She was crying out for help so her usual smug demeanor lately fell away when she feared she might die.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2013 14:20:49 GMT -5
See I think that smug demeanor was gone when she said "My mom took that picture" and when she gave in to dancing with Stefan (tiny moments) and when she looked to Damon for help. I think the second those emotions/feeling came she turned them off and said or did something horrible to push the feelings away--- in Bonnie's case to try and ensure they wouldn't come back-- it was like desperation. ---obviously how I read the episode but I see that was just my interpretation and many instances do not have quotes or facts to back that up --just situations that seem to add up in my head.
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Post by Sweetluv4DE on Apr 20, 2013 14:30:58 GMT -5
I didn't see any feelings or spark of feelings. Just NUMBNESS. Elena only showed FEAR this episode.
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Post by Sweetluv4DE on Apr 20, 2013 14:37:12 GMT -5
What did you Like? I liked the Steroline dance ALLOT! I ship them hard core. I loved Bonnie this episode. Everything about her and the Jeremy Bonnie scenes just got me.
What you did not like? Elena and Klaus. They are Butt wipes. So sick of them! Elena and her attitude and just no emotions. Isn't anger and annoyance an emotion? Seriously this girl has so much issues. Klaus. he is an ass hat to Bekah! I cant stand what he did to Tyler. Stupid idiot!
What was your favorite scene/quote? My favorite scene hands down was Stefan and Caroline's dance. I loved when she told him she would meet someone new and move on. I was screaming! HE HAS YOU YOU YOU!!! PLEASE!!!! I also loved DE at the end. When she cried out for Damon.
What scene was the most shocking to you or caught you off guard? Silas's face. April's dress was hideousness!
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Post by Doppelgänger on Apr 20, 2013 14:38:33 GMT -5
Yeah, I'm just not convinced of it because then I could say what she said to Damon was also a reaction to feeling something for him and where does it end? It seems like speculation at that point. Neither of them seemed to see any feeling out of her prior to the fear. But I guess that means it's possible to get to her through fear.
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Post by Doppelgänger on Apr 20, 2013 14:43:29 GMT -5
What did you Like? I liked the Steroline dance ALLOT! I ship them hard core. I loved Bonnie this episode. Everything about her and the Jeremy Bonnie scenes just got me. What you did not like? Elena and Klaus. They are Butt wipes. So sick of them! Elena and her attitude and just no emotions. Isn't anger and annoyance an emotion? Seriously this girl has so much issues. Klaus. he is an ass hat to Bekah! I cant stand what he did to Tyler. Stupid idiot! What was your favorite scene/quote? My favorite scene hands down was Stefan and Caroline's dance. I loved when she told him she would meet someone new and move on. I was screaming! HE HAS YOU YOU YOU!!! PLEASE!!!! I also loved DE at the end. When she cried out for Damon. What scene was the most shocking to you or caught you off guard? Silas's face. April's dress was hideousness! I agree with all of this, although I don't ship Steroline as of yet. I definitely saw a moment of realization there with Stefan though when he looked at Caroline. What that means I don't know. Whether he just realized she might be right or he realized she might be the one he could fall in love with but there was something there with him. As to April, I find it hilarious that everyone just sends her on her way. Poor girl is going to have ptsd from all these vamp encounters where she nearly loses her life. They don't even bother to compel her to forget anymore.
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Post by Sweetluv4DE on Apr 20, 2013 14:49:44 GMT -5
DE all started with moments. Friendship. Stares. ETC
Steroline is starting the same way and I love it! Season 3 Damon was Elena's friend helping her through the Stefan stuff. Season four Caroline is Stefan's friend helping him through the Elena stuff.
I've shipped Stefan and Caroline since season 1. I'm so happy I am seeing this turn towards them.
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Post by Doppelgänger on Apr 20, 2013 14:51:18 GMT -5
I know you ship them. Well they are sort of cute together as long as they aren't ragging on DE. Oh and when Matt and Bonnie were talking about practicing for Caroline's wedding, I couldn't help remembering she'd said in season 1 that her and Stefan would have a June wedding.
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Post by Sweetluv4DE on Apr 20, 2013 14:56:48 GMT -5
Oh and real quick... I see so many people saying they are sick of the triangle. I don't get this? I'm sick of it NOT BEING A TRIANGLE! A true triangle is when the person in the middle is torn between two guys because she has feelings for both and has had a relationship with both guys. That is when it becomes a true triangle. In Dawson's Creek it wasn't a triangle until she dated Pacey. In OTH it wasn't a triangle until Lucas dated Brooke. Right now we have had a season full of CRAP! The SB has ruined everything to move the triangle into being one. I will be sick of the triangle when after Elena dates Damon she is all confused as to who she wants to be with! That will annoy me. Right now I am sick of the LACK of TRUE triangle that we are getting.
DE haven't even had a shot. A real shot yet. We as DE's might know it's real and we believe it's real but the WHOLE audience needs to know and SEE it being real in order for this to feel like an actual triangle.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2013 15:05:46 GMT -5
Maybe this season she hasn't been torn because she has not been allowed to be BUT the fact that she had to make a choice last season showed there was a triangle and as an SE fan I am sorta tired of it. She explored and explored her feelings and her feelings have been tested and questionsed for 3 season she even kissed Damon and she still chose Stefan tbh I am just as frustrated with the sirebond, but for opposite reasons. lol
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2013 15:06:34 GMT -5
I know you ship them. Well they are sort of cute together as long as they aren't ragging on DE. Oh and when Matt and Bonnie were talking about practicing for Caroline's wedding, I couldn't help remembering she'd said in season 1 that her and Stefan would have a June wedding. I don't mind the ragging
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Post by Doppelgänger on Apr 20, 2013 15:11:02 GMT -5
Yeah and as a DE I think her choosing Stefan was a cop out on her part and when she asked Damon if he wanted her to go back to being that scared little girl who was too afraid to go for what she wanted, THAT was the truth about what happened, but see, that's all a matter of opinion.
On the sire bond, nobody made that happen. It just did. Both Damon and Elena are victims of it and not responsible for it happening to them. I hate it as much as you do and want it GONE forever!
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Post by Doppelgänger on Apr 20, 2013 15:12:26 GMT -5
I know you ship them. Well they are sort of cute together as long as they aren't ragging on DE. Oh and when Matt and Bonnie were talking about practicing for Caroline's wedding, I couldn't help remembering she'd said in season 1 that her and Stefan would have a June wedding. I don't mind the ragging I'm sure you don't.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2013 15:20:50 GMT -5
of course it is a matter of opinion I do not think I stated anything as fact. I stated how I feel. which implies opinion. I could have assumed your opinion. I was just responding the the sirebond frustration. It is not only DE fans that are frustrated by it. Nor did I imply the sirebond was anyones fault and you forgot Stefan--- Stefan being a victim of it. I am pretty sure he was hurt in the process as well.
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