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Post by Ruby2579 on Apr 25, 2013 18:40:41 GMT -5
EPISODE 4X20 THE ORIGINALS WRITTEN BY JULIE PLEC BACK DOOR PILOT TO THE ORIGINALS
Lets come together to share our thoughts about tonight's episode! =)All TVD Fans Welcomed including Exclusive Ship fans lolLets discuss:
- What did you Like?
What you did not like? What was your favorite scene/quote? What scene was the most shocking to you or caught you off guard? And any additional thoughts! - Would you be tuning into the spin-off next fall if it picked up? Why or why not
*ONLY RULES* When replying to someone's response please be polite. =) You can nicely state why you might disagree without saying "well you're wrong" or "I dont like your opinion" Lets stick to the episode topic xoxo
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Post by Ruby2579 on Apr 25, 2013 20:59:47 GMT -5
What did you Like? I liked the dark feel to New Orleans and the fact the town is run by vampires. Marcel seems interesting. Klaus biting the vampire was genius. i wish he would have bit marcel but i guess the card was played right so he can get in his circle.
I loved the Family ABove all Elijah was announcing throughout. Also Elijah doing his signature move of ripping hearts out Nice touch The story overall about the control and what Marcel has over the witches head to have them be obedient is a big draw in for me as well.
What you did not like?
I think everything played out right for me. the least thing i liked at first was the whole hayley being pregnant thing but then i thought what kind of supernatural baby this can be and im with it.
What was your favorite scene/quote?
Camille interpreting the painting to Klaus. and Klaus showing Marcel whos boss, If you kill Klaus you kill Marcel because he was turned by him
Favorite line: Klaus Every King needs an Heir What scene was the most shocking to you or caught you off guard?
Hayley being pregnant and Marcel killing Jane with the branch
And any additional thoughts! Elena challenging the Salvatores on who is going to break first. was a nice ending to lead into the next episode. Shes Ballsy I liked it.
Would you be tuning into the spin-off next fall if it picked up? Why or why not
Im sold on watching the show. i love the feel and the fact is not based on a triangle or highschool stuff. its fresh to watch and cant wait for it.
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Post by katvolley13 on Apr 26, 2013 5:56:48 GMT -5
So I have not watched it yet but I have been reading the recaps and the reactions. The reaction to the show has been fantastic except for the pregnancy. What I keep reading is--"what I wanted klaroline" or similar things. A Klaus is not going to be a life long partner just because the girl is pregnant. Second he may kill her the second she gives birth and compel some women to take of the child. The poss are endless why is everyone assuming they are going to get married. I should prob just stay off tumbler people aren't making sense.
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Post by Doppelgänger on Apr 26, 2013 7:18:57 GMT -5
When do people on Tumblr ever make sense? I thought the episode was OK. I'm not sure it will be enough to make me keep watching. The baby thing will be a reason for Klaus to stay in NO. I think Klaroline is good and dead. Well it never really started so what is lost? If I were her, I'd be pissed to find out he had shagged Hayley, found out he got her pregnant and then called me, but hey, maybe that's just me.
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Post by katvolley13 on Apr 26, 2013 9:36:13 GMT -5
Its not like klaus and Caroline were in exclusive relationship at the time so Caroline, if she does get pissed will only show that she truly cares for Klaus hence bringing on Klaroline all the more.
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Post by Ruby2579 on Apr 26, 2013 10:31:04 GMT -5
yea alot of people were going off on Tumblr last night I was like ehh I'm staying away from this lol. Klaroline was always a cracked ship for me. I like them together and I can manage them being friends.
The thing is that people don't tend to grasp is that if the Originals gets picked up the whole baby thing is not even the main focus. The main focus is Klaus and Co. Taking back whats theirs and Marcel being in the way of that. I don't get how in Underworld it was a brilliant idea for a Vampire to conceive a baby with a guy who was half Lyking/Half Vampire or Human (i don't remember) and its pretty cool n intense and everyone on TVD is like no thats stupid lol I would definitely give it a shot I think it has a lot of potential.
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Post by Ruby2579 on Apr 26, 2013 11:45:53 GMT -5
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Post by Sweetluv4DE on Apr 26, 2013 13:24:26 GMT -5
Um you wont like a lot of what I have to say.
First is Marcel get's killed off the show is done. He was the glue holding that episode last night. he made it real, interesting and exciting. What a great actor and what a great smile, face and personality! I love Marcel and honestly if I watch it's only for him and Elijah.
Elijah was amazing. He was his old self again ripping out hearts. I really love that man especially in a suit. But he didn't have to say bye to Kat. She could come visit in New Orleans!
Bekah, I felt bad for her but she wasn't really much in the "Original's" episode although she is an original!
Haley being pregnant was ridiculous and laughable! I'm sorry. This is a crack story line. Although Phoebe looked very pretty last night.
Klaus...Oh Klaus how I cant stand you. Getting all sad and emotional all night. It was so ridiculous honestly. I mean come on dude YOU KILLED AUNT JENNA! Let's get sad at a painter and Camille's description of you. I don't want to see him as a romantic arc. I don't want to see him as a lead. I don't want to see him redeemed.
New Orleans the town and the scenery made this show interesting. I loved the french quarter and the essence of Louisiana in there.
That was my take.
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Post by Sweetluv4DE on Apr 26, 2013 13:30:07 GMT -5
According to Entertainment Weekly, The Vampire Diaries ratings were down 31 percent from an average TVD episode: It had 2.2 million viewers last night, though the numbers may be adjusted later and that’s without DVR tallies included.
However, that number is up slightly from the previous week’s episode, which had 2.1 million viewers. Because this was the pilot for the series, The CW executives will likely factor the viewership in when considering whether to pick up the show for fall.
According to EW, the less-than-stellar ratings don’t necessarily spell doom for The Originals. It’s a show with a built-in audience of TVD fans, and “What fans say online about The Originals pilot (and how the network’s executive team feels about the project creatively) might have just as much impact on the series-order decision as how many viewers initially showed up. In other words: Semi-lousy ratings or not, a series pickup remains likely.”
That’s great news for everyone who’s dying to find out what happens with Klaus, Hayley (Phoebe Tonkin), and their little unexpected visitor. The CW will announce The Originals’ fate at the Upfronts on May 15 — if not sooner.
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Post by Ruby2579 on Apr 26, 2013 13:44:56 GMT -5
Um you wont like a lot of what I have to say. First is Marcel get's killed off the show is done. He was the glue holding that episode last night. he made it real, interesting and exciting. What a great actor and what a great smile, face and personality! I love Marcel and honestly if I watch it's only for him and Elijah. Elijah was amazing. He was his old self again ripping out hearts. I really love that man especially in a suit. But he didn't have to say bye to Kat. She could come visit in New Orleans! Bekah, I felt bad for her but she wasn't really much in the "Original's" episode although she is an original! Haley being pregnant was ridiculous and laughable! I'm sorry. This is a crack story line. Although Phoebe looked very pretty last night. Klaus...Oh Klaus how I cant stand you. Getting all sad and emotional all night. It was so ridiculous honestly. I mean come on dude YOU KILLED AUNT JENNA! Let's get sad at a painter and Camille's description of you. I don't want to see him as a romantic arc. I don't want to see him as a lead. I don't want to see him redeemed. New Orleans the town and the scenery made this show interesting. I loved the french quarter and the essence of Louisiana in there. That was my take. i agree with most of what you said it wasnt so bad lol The only thing you didn't like was Klaus which makes sense since you do not like him. I don't think he felt bad for the witch more in the sense he didn't understand why she was being killed in the first place and he wanted to talk to her. The whole pregnancy thing makes people laugh i get it but its also a different plot twist that i would be interested in seeing it explored. Yea everyone keeps saying its twilight n yadadadad but other supernatural movies have also tried it and lets be real some of these stories will use common plots so big deal. Marcel is a very interesting character I doubt they will kill him off I do like him he's a different kind of vampire personality its intriguing. I like Klaus being the anti hero in his own show he won't be completely good but thats Klaus. He is capable of being redeemed, why everyone else is and he is not? Because he killed Aunt Jenna and Tyler's mom? Our other characters have killed too
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2013 13:50:29 GMT -5
What did you Like? I also like the dark feel and how in this part of town, magic by witches is forbidden. I also like how Marcel at the moment is sort of on top and it seems as if Klaus is going to try to make his way up the ranks as well.
What you did not like? There was nothing in particular that I didn't like.
What was your favorite scene/quote? When Klaus bit one of Marcel's friends and claimed that he was immortal and couldn't be killed. But isn't Marcel aware that if Klaus dies he'll die too anyways? I was expecting Klaus to throw that fact in his face.
What scene was the most shocking to you or caught you off guard? Definitely the Hayley being pregnant scene. But at the same time the scene was funny. It kind of felt like an episode of Maury especially when Klaus was proclaiming that Hayley must have been with someone else lol
When I first read about the pregnant thing I thought it was weird. But then I forgot that Hayley is a werewolf, not a vampire. So she can get pregnant and Klaus is half werewolf.
And any additional thoughts! Would you be tuning into the spin-off next fall if it picked up? Why or why not There was a lot of Katherine in this episode and since Elijah officially said good bye to her in this ep, it reaffirmed my theory that Katherine might be the one to die in the finale. Klaus is in New Orleans so she can be in Mystic Falls freely as she wants, but I don't know if I see the writers having her stick around all the time if they don't really have much for her to do.
lol and also I wouldn't count a love triangle out yet. I already see one forming Hayley/Klaus/Camille. It's not going to be like TVD's case where the triangle is up and center though because the stories and characters are different. Klaus isn't torn between anyone at the moment, his goals are on Marcel and New Orleans right now. But I can see how things will be a problem down the line if Camille begins to present herself interested in Klaus but Hayley is pregnant with Klaus' baby.
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Post by Ruby2579 on Apr 26, 2013 13:57:03 GMT -5
What did you Like?I also like the dark feel and how in this part of town, magic by witches is forbidden. I also like how Marcel at the moment is sort of on top and it seems as if Klaus is going to try to make his way up the ranks as well. What you did not like?There was nothing in particular that I didn't like. What was your favorite scene/quote?When Klaus bit one of Marcel's friends and claimed that he was immortal and couldn't be killed. But isn't Marcel aware that if Klaus dies he'll die too anyways? I was expecting Klaus to throw that fact in his face. What scene was the most shocking to you or caught you off guard?Definitely the Hayley being pregnant scene. But at the same time the scene was funny. It kind of felt like an episode of Maury especially when Klaus was proclaiming that Hayley must have been with someone else lol When I first read about the pregnant thing I thought it was weird. But then I forgot that Hayley is a werewolf, not a vampire. So she can get pregnant and Klaus is half werewolf. And any additional thoughts! Would you be tuning into the spin-off next fall if it picked up? Why or why not
There was a lot of Katherine in this episode and since Elijah officially said good bye to her in this ep, it reaffirmed my theory that Katherine might be the one to die in the finale. Klaus is in New Orleans so she can be in Mystic Falls freely as she wants, but I don't know if I see the writers having her stick around all the time if they don't really have much for her to do. lol and also I wouldn't count a love triangle out yet. I already see one forming Hayley/Klaus/Camille. It's not going to be like TVD's case where the triangle is up and center though because the stories and characters are different. Klaus isn't torn between anyone at the moment, his goals are on Marcel and New Orleans right now. But I can see how things will be a problem down the line if Camille begins to present herself interested in Klaus but Hayley is pregnant with Klaus' baby.
The triangle can also be Marcel/Camille/Klaus I don't know if Klaus and Hayley will even be a thing. and you right it did make me laugh when he said you had to be with someone else lmao such a douche dad move haha
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2013 14:04:03 GMT -5
I know people are laughing over the pregnant thing and how ridiculous it is I did too lol but in a way it's what made me interested.
I want to see how this all plays out and see how the baby will turn out. Like if it comes out a little hybrid baby and it bites you will you get a werewolf bite and stuff?
And even though I didn't favor Klaus much in TVD I like him here. I like seeing him in this environment. In TVD I don't like the back and forth with the gang and all the hazardous interactions with everyone at Klaus' throat and vice versa. They can only do so much with him in TVD since the main story is the triangle and Damon, Elena, and Stefan are the main characters.
With this we can see more from Klaus and new story lines surrounding him and it almost feels like in a way he has been thrown to the bottom of the chain and he has to build himself up so I see myself rooting for him to become'king' again. Like I just got caught up in his ambition lol
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2013 14:13:35 GMT -5
What did you Like?I also like the dark feel and how in this part of town, magic by witches is forbidden. I also like how Marcel at the moment is sort of on top and it seems as if Klaus is going to try to make his way up the ranks as well. What you did not like?There was nothing in particular that I didn't like. What was your favorite scene/quote?When Klaus bit one of Marcel's friends and claimed that he was immortal and couldn't be killed. But isn't Marcel aware that if Klaus dies he'll die too anyways? I was expecting Klaus to throw that fact in his face. What scene was the most shocking to you or caught you off guard?Definitely the Hayley being pregnant scene. But at the same time the scene was funny. It kind of felt like an episode of Maury especially when Klaus was proclaiming that Hayley must have been with someone else lol When I first read about the pregnant thing I thought it was weird. But then I forgot that Hayley is a werewolf, not a vampire. So she can get pregnant and Klaus is half werewolf. And any additional thoughts! Would you be tuning into the spin-off next fall if it picked up? Why or why not
There was a lot of Katherine in this episode and since Elijah officially said good bye to her in this ep, it reaffirmed my theory that Katherine might be the one to die in the finale. Klaus is in New Orleans so she can be in Mystic Falls freely as she wants, but I don't know if I see the writers having her stick around all the time if they don't really have much for her to do. lol and also I wouldn't count a love triangle out yet. I already see one forming Hayley/Klaus/Camille. It's not going to be like TVD's case where the triangle is up and center though because the stories and characters are different. Klaus isn't torn between anyone at the moment, his goals are on Marcel and New Orleans right now. But I can see how things will be a problem down the line if Camille begins to present herself interested in Klaus but Hayley is pregnant with Klaus' baby.
The triangle can also be Marcel/Camille/Klaus I don't know if Klaus and Hayley will even be a thing. and you right it did make me laugh when he said you had to be with someone else lmao such a douche dad move haha Oh yeah I didn't think of that one. It seems possible too. Yeah I'm not sure if Klaus will ever see Hayley in that way but because of the whole baby issue, he may be protective of it. And Camille could see it as something more so that could cause drama there lol
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Post by Doppelgänger on Apr 26, 2013 14:42:12 GMT -5
This article says about the same. The thing is that a pilot usually gets the most viewership and this was even a backdoor pilot with TVD bookends which guaranteed people like me would watch it and it still didn't do so well. The Vampire Diaries spinoff pilot had a disappointing performance in the flagship show’s 8 p.m. slot last night. The Originals delivered 2.2 million viewers and a 0.9 among adults 18-49 last night. Not only did the episode not demonstrate a spike of interest — which is what you hope to see when debuting the pilot for a potential new series — the rating was down 10 percent from the show’s last episode. The hour was also down 31 percent from The Vampire Diaries‘ average this season. insidetv.ew.com/2013/04/26/vampire-diaries-spinoff-ratings/
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