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Post by Ruby2579 on May 2, 2013 21:33:09 GMT -5
So im seeing too many things on tumblr that is getting on my nerves. People are saying Damon brought her back and Stefan did crap. which i DISAGREE WITH then others are saying that Damon sucks and it was Stefan who brought her back AGAIN SOMETHING I DISAGREE WITH.
Damon thought of the plan of using Matt the only human tie and connection Elena had to her old self. The one that she gave her life her, her oldest friend. He used Matt in a way that was pretty awesome of course with the ring because if he would have actually killed him i wouldve been pissed but i would have gotten it but it says alot about Damon
and it brought me back to when Damon faked Bonnie's death. He said I will keep Elena alive even if she hates me for it. I will always choose you etc etc. You Stefan can deal with Collateral damage.
which leads me to Elena turning the switch back on and being overwhelmed with her feelings. Damon couldnt calm her down she refused to listen to him because she was overwhelmed but Stefan got through to her. He told her to focus on that one emotion that keeps her going etc.
It didnt mean he was trying to get her to think of him. It was Stefan telling her HEY ive been there this is where all the feelings are coming back to you etc etc you need to focus. and he got her to finally focus.
Both Brothers did their part. Matt was the key for her humanity. Makes me want to look at Matt Tarrod Card from the beginning of the season.
But yea Both brothers were useful in bringing her back. I dont understand how many can still say one was more useful then the other. -_- it really annoys me
sorry for the rant lol
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Post by Ruby2579 on May 2, 2013 21:41:53 GMT -5
this is elena! i cant believe how glad i am to see you back
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Post by Doppelgänger on May 2, 2013 22:06:50 GMT -5
I see your point. I think for me as a DE fan I saw Damon shrink into the background as if he just knew that Elena would think of Stefan and that would be her reason for calming down so his insecurity AGAIN got the better of him, but it didnt happen. It wasn't thinking of Stefan that calmed her down. It still made me angry that Stefan jumped into it instead of letting Damon try to help her.
They never broke up. Damon considers himself her boyfriend, remember? And until that is resolved otherwise that is the current assumption and Stefan knows it. Otherwise he would not have put Elena on Damon's bed when he vervained her. He would not have asked Damon to help her when Jeremy died. He knows it. So, I can't help being annoyed by Stefan jumping in when it wasn't his place and not letting Damon try to figure it out first. Had Damon had to deal with it alone he would have been able to help her. He just doesn't believe in himself enough to think so. But in the end you are right, it was a group effort that worked on her.
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Post by Ruby2579 on May 2, 2013 22:15:24 GMT -5
I see your point. I think for me as a DE fan I saw Damon shrink into the background as if he just knew that Elena would think of Stefan and that would be her reason for calming down so his insecurity AGAIN got the better of him, but it didnt happen. It wasn't thinking of Stefan that calmed her down. It still made me angry that Stefan jumped into it instead of letting Damon try to help her. They never broke up. Damon considers himself her boyfriend, remember? I can't help being annoyed by Stefan jumping in when it wasn't his place and not letting Damon try to figure it out first. Had Damon had to deal with it alone he would have been able to help her. He just doesn't believe in himself enough to think so. But in the end you are right, it was a group effort that worked on her. See thats the thing, Damon did try and she was freaking out. He didnt know how to deal with her. She kept saying No. And Stefan stepped in to try to help. Damon and Stefan were in it together so I just took it as them tag teaming it and I definitely felt really bad for Damon. I caught myself saying Awwww for him. because that moment was so intense. I was waiting for Elena to say "you" but knew she wouldn't and I just thought she was holding on to Jeremy. That was the person who came to mind when he said find that thing that keeps you going.
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Post by Doppelgänger on May 2, 2013 22:18:20 GMT -5
But it wasn't Jeremy either. Did you see Damon step back though out of fear it would be Stefan? His insecurity is what makes him believe he isn't enough and that he isn't capable of helping her when really he most likely is. It doesn't help that every living (and unliving) soul in MF tells him she will be leaving him to go back to Stefan and he's come to terms with that and thinks he can deal with it even though he can't.
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Post by Doppelgänger on May 2, 2013 22:20:50 GMT -5
Of course you know that most likely means the exact opposite will happen, but I digress. We'll just wait for the finale to see how it all pans out.
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Post by Ruby2579 on May 2, 2013 22:21:07 GMT -5
But it wasn't Jeremy either. Did you see Damon step back though out of fear it would be Stefan? His insecurity is what makes him believe he isn't enough and that he isn't capable of helping her when really he most likely is. It doesn't help that every living (and unliving) soul in MF tells him she will be leaving him to go back to Stefan. that is true thats what I did see and why i felt so bad. and i also saw it as him feeling this is Stefan's part that I feel I cant do. Example: when he fake killed bonnie (season 2) and was like ill do the hard part (plan) and you deal with collateral damage edit: not saying Damon is not capable but he feels hes not
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Post by Doppelgänger on May 2, 2013 22:27:16 GMT -5
Exactly, he feels he's not but when it's just him left to pick up the pieces he does just fine. He managed it with Baby Gilbert a time or two as I recall, which is what made Jeremy listen to him and respect him enough to seek out his approval. Don't even get me started now... Either Alaric or Jeremy has to be the one to come back for good!
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Post by Doppelgänger on May 2, 2013 22:39:43 GMT -5
Jeremy: I told you I could be a bad ass. Damon: Bad asses don't say that.
Given the choice I'd pick Jeremy to return...there I've said it. Damon could make him his new sidekick and he'd protect him, too.
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Post by Ruby2579 on May 2, 2013 22:46:10 GMT -5
Jeremy: I told you I could be a bad ass. Damon: Bad asses don't say that. Given the choice I'd pick Jeremy to return...there I've said it. Damon could make him his new sidekick and he'd protect him, too. I think it will be Jeremy. They make it so hard to choose between Alaric and Jeremy.
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Post by Doppelgänger on May 2, 2013 23:06:54 GMT -5
Jeremy: I told you I could be a bad ass. Damon: Bad asses don't say that. Given the choice I'd pick Jeremy to return...there I've said it. Damon could make him his new sidekick and he'd protect him, too. I think it will be Jeremy. They make it so hard to choose between Alaric and Jeremy. It is really hard. I think because of Elena, Jeremy, but for me it would be chunky monkey. I so loved Team Badass. How about both?
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Post by Ruby2579 on May 2, 2013 23:21:20 GMT -5
I think it will be Jeremy. They make it so hard to choose between Alaric and Jeremy. It is really hard. I think because of Elena, Jeremy, but for me it would be chunky monkey. I so loved Team Badass. How about both? its tough because i love them both. When Alaric died it was horrible and then they topped it with Jeremy's I would go for jeremy too if i had to pick
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Post by Doppelgänger on May 2, 2013 23:30:15 GMT -5
Yeah, Jeremy seems like he has the best future story to tell although it pains me to say so.
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Post by Doppelgänger on May 2, 2013 23:30:54 GMT -5
I cried more for Alaric though. I was totally devestated by that.
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Post by kate on May 2, 2013 23:47:38 GMT -5
Although with Jeremy how would they explain that a kid they had a memorial for is now walking around town alive and well? "oops I guess he wasn't in the house that burnt down and was just out of town that day???"
Same could be said for Alaric, "I guess the history teacher isn't dead..."
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