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Post by Sweetluv4DE on Mar 11, 2012 14:30:15 GMT -5
Stefan could totally be lying to Damon that he changed and maybe even set him up! Get Damon into trouble of some kind on purpose. I'm sorry he isn't going to be good in 1912 and then turn into a monster who kills an entire village in 1917! That's 5 years? He went from being a good clean boy to ripping an entire village? Woman and children in 5 years?
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Post by Sweetluv4DE on Mar 11, 2012 14:33:03 GMT -5
On that article of what trends Julie wanted to see before the show started up one of them was RIP Alaric and then she went to say don't worry it's not a spoiler or anything. So I don't think Alaric will die unless she came out like surprise! Though that speech that Alaric had going about working with such an amazing cast did seem a bit of a goodbye thing. Yeah, and he also said, "I still want that ring," or something like that, sort of past tense vibe. I mean wouldn't he still be wearing it? Then everyone got sort of quiet there and Julie said, "We not talking about that." HELL NO! TVD without ALARIC? Yeah right. They better not!!
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Post by LovingDamon4Ever on Mar 11, 2012 14:58:26 GMT -5
Out of all of this I am most interested to find out what Rebekah was doing there in 1912. It says Damon did something and it factors in to the present day torture.
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Post by Doppelgänger on Mar 11, 2012 15:01:07 GMT -5
Out of all of this I am most interested to find out what Rebekah was doing there in 1912. It says Damon did something and it factors in to the present day torture. I never heard this...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2012 18:03:27 GMT -5
Are we sure the horrible thing Stefan is going to do is in a flashback? What if it's in present day? If he does it in a flashback then I don't see what would be the point of this 'horrible' thing. It'll be like when Elena was reading that diary and all the things he did. It'd be stupid for anyone to get angry over stuff that's happened in the past so I don't see why the writers would say he does something horrible and make it in a flashback because there's been alot of horrible things done in flashbacks that have altogether been blown over and this will add another if it is flashback Stefan doing it.
Plus we already know about what he did with the massacre of the village so I don't know if the writers would turn around and recycle stuff we already know and thrown in the 'horrible' aspect. If Elena didn't think it was horrible then then she won't think it's horrible now.
If what Stefan does is in present day then I can see where the whole 'twist' aspect that's been going around can be applied.
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Post by Sweetluv4DE on Mar 11, 2012 18:59:36 GMT -5
Hmmmm melody. I'd rather it be present day too! But I wonder if the "horrible" thing is more of a shock for us and not Elena. For us to maybe think wow Stefan really isn'tt hat eprfect is he? I mean we know but Stefan cultist don't. haha We are Damon cultists so that wasn't meant to degrade! lol
But if they want it to shock Elena then it has to be present day because nothing he did in the past would "shock" Elena otherwise she would have ran the other direction learning that he ate a whole village of people of all different ages!
The imaging of that makes me sick. I don't think Damon ate a whole village of people. Did he leave the kids? Teens alive? I wonder and would love to know! If he didn't that makes me think how could he be forgiven for that?
How far are vamps allowed to go.
Damn took that to a whole other subject!
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Post by Doppelgänger on Mar 11, 2012 19:07:45 GMT -5
I think we argued that til we were blue in the face at the 'other' place and the conclusion was, murder is murder. I tend to feel there are more heinous ways to murder and more over the top things one can do and getting the label 'ripper' from your own fellow vampires would have seemed to indicate that even vampires agreed with that, but what do I know?
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Post by Doppelgänger on Mar 11, 2012 19:10:12 GMT -5
Something that hasn't been mentioned is that Samantha Gilbert is in this episode in 1912. She's been mysteriously kept under wraps. I wonder what happened to her. She's one of the women in that one picture of Stefan with the two women in black in it or that is what I read. From an article: A series source says Samantha Gilbert will stop by in the near future, describing the character as kind and warm... but also in possession of a "devilish side." What might cause is to be unleashed? And who the heck is Samantha Gilbert? Both good questions. Let's tune in and find out, shall we? Read more: www.tvfanatic.com/2012/01/the-vampire-diaries-to-welcome-a-new-gilbert-who-is-samantha/#ixzz1orB88nLKAccording to vampirediaries.wikia.com/wiki/Marianna_Gilbert the other one is possibly Samantha's mother and yet neither of these have been talked about. Makes you wonder why...
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Post by Sweetluv4DE on Mar 11, 2012 19:18:53 GMT -5
I was more thinking about the murder of little children. Murder is not murder. If someone kills an adult it's sick, it's bad and it's horrible. If someone touches a child EVER I want them burned on a stake. IMO taking the life of a little innocent child who cant defend them self is way worse. But that is more of what I'm asking. If he murdered a village of people did he not kill kids? I want to know. How far is too far for a vampire when it comes to killing human life?
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Post by Doppelgänger on Mar 11, 2012 19:20:20 GMT -5
I was more thinking about the murder of little children. Murder is not murder. If someone kills an adult it's sick, it's bad and it's horrible. If someone touches a child EVER I want them burned on a stake. IMO taking the life of a little innocent child who cant defend them self is way worse. But that is more of what I'm asking. If he murdered a village of people did he not kill kids? I want to know. How far is too far for a vampire when it comes to killing human life? I got the impression he killed them all, the entire village is what he said wasn't it? Like I said I believe some murders are worse but that's the round and round we ended up at over 'there.'
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Post by Sweetluv4DE on Mar 11, 2012 19:24:53 GMT -5
Damn I really don't remember arguing about that! How convenient to say murder is the same. Whatever. I know how I feel! LOL
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Post by LovingDamon4Ever on Mar 11, 2012 19:46:53 GMT -5
Plec also spoiled that Original Hybrid Klaus isn’t present in “1912″, but Rebekah is, and Damon does something really terrible to her that insights the already spoiled, shirtless torture scene in the March 29th episode, “The Murder of Oneâ€. However, the whole event will bring our love triangle closer together.
I see this now as Bekah just being in the ep...not being present in 1912 itself, or is it? Cuz I've seen pix of Bekah and Klaus together haven't I? Maybe it is the next ep after....
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Post by pixiestyx on Mar 11, 2012 20:16:10 GMT -5
I think that Bex is just in this episode. Damon and Bex have never indicated that they knew each other before they met. Damon did not know her when she decided to live at the Salvatore mansion. It's possible that she knows Sage so if she does appear in 1912, it'll be with Sage.
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Post by LovingDamon4Ever on Mar 11, 2012 20:47:02 GMT -5
I think that Bex is just in this episode. Damon and Bex have never indicated that they knew each other before they met. Damon did not know her when she decided to live at the Salvatore mansion. It's possible that she knows Sage so if she does appear in 1912, it'll be with Sage. Yeah, but Stefan didn't remember that he knew Klaus and Bekah either because he had been compelled to forget. It is possible Damon knew her before. I have also heard rumors that Damon knows Kol as well. Gotta wait and see. It's like waiting to open a present! I'm a box shaker.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2012 20:55:13 GMT -5
I wonder if the twist has to do with Elena's parents and the car accident? JP said when they show flashbacks we're learning about new stuff so maybe we get to see what was the actual cause of the accident. For some reason Stefan is floating around in my head Like what if he was standing in the road or something. I'd sure call that a twist if Stefan was the cause of the accident in the first place! I was also thinking if the twist could be Elena turning into a vampire, though not too sure on it now since this question was asked at the panel and JP said something along the lines of we'll see I think and at that point they're at 3x21 so who knows!
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