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Post by Doppelgänger on May 21, 2012 9:33:45 GMT -5
She should have chosen Damon. The entire darn season pointed to her choosing Damon in the end. By choosing Stefan, we may as well not have bothered with season 3. Everything is reset back to the way it was in season 2. The only difference is Elena will be a vampire come season 4. I think it was a cop-out to have her choose Stefan cause they were too chicken to change the status quo and now they are going to lose alot of fans over this decision. Stupid!
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2012 10:09:34 GMT -5
The finale was just written very poorly, well more like the entire season. Stefan still hasn't properly apologized for any of the things he did and he hurt her real bad when he was on his ripper stint and with all of the quotes of Elena asking Damon where he was, she wouldn't know what to do if he weren't here, he gets under her skin, he consumes her. It makes no sense for her to choose Stefan giving all the times he just yelled at her to get the hell away from him. Really if more than a majority of the audience felt as if she would pick Damon then really JP just needs to get fired because she can't write for crap and every scene is interpreted differently than how she initially writes it. Okay so if she never really 'unfell' for Stefan and only 'cares' for Damon then how come when Stefan kissed her she didn't even kiss him back. She just gave him a blank stare like she didn't know what the hell he was doing.  That was their only kiss all season and Elena wasn't even into it. She kissed Damon two other times and both of them she kissed him back and was more than in to it. I agree that the finale was a cop out and just a stupid ploy to keep Damon and Elena apart yet again, while throwing in a one minute flashback to keep the hope of DE when it will probably not even get addressed next season  |
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Post by Slash on May 21, 2012 10:42:25 GMT -5
I agree with the above that they really kind of lead us to Damon getting his time under the sun with Elena but then they just said "Stefan" and I believe someone mentioned her reasoning being cause she met Stefan first? The hell JP? The buildup all season to Damon & Elena getting closer and this is what you give the fans? You should be whipped during a commercial break come S4.
What I also hated about the finale is how that all played out with the phone call. The previous episode, Elena said she didn't want to lose either Brother and then, because her hand was forced, she chose Stefan? Why even make a choice in that moment? So one can die happy and one can die miserable? What the hell Elena? And not only that, but just telling Damon she had to let him go so he could spend his last few moments alone and fighting for what little life he had left against Alaric, his best friend and now an 'Original Killer', while Elena headed back to MF with the rest of her friends and they all spent that time together? This annoys me so damn much. Why didn't Elena tell Damon to 'come home'?
The logic in the finale is just...whoo! Why did Jeremy & Matt steal away Elena? Are they so out of the loop about Vampire rules that they would do something so stupid. Klaus in the past episode couldn't get in the house. Elijah is more respectable and I don't believe he would have done anything to hurt Elena and as we know, Bekah has never been invited into the house, nor has Alaric after turning. Alaric himself wasn't a problem cause Elena was his tether but if J&M hadn't attempted that stupid plan, Elena would have been home where she was safe from Bekah's retaliation. The whole running thing at this point just seemed forced. Klaus was put down, Alaric wasn't a threat and for the most part, none of the Originals had an interest in her beyond her tether to Alaric and even then, Elijah was willing to just take the Stake and run to let Elena & Co. live a long life along with Klaus being out of the picture for a few generations. Jeremy & Matt are just...-_-
JP needs to stop writing these characters are pieces of cardboard or not knowing that their actions have some consequences that can be seen if that sat there and thought about what they were doing for oh, I don't know, 2 minutes?
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Post by Doppelgänger on May 21, 2012 10:53:56 GMT -5
We might want an anti-Elena thread but yeah I'm pretty upset that that's how she treated Damon when she thought he was dying. Why would she ever tell someone who she thinks is dying something like that? I wouldn't be so callous to my worst enemy, and on the phone no less. This from the girl who is supposed to be compassionate and caring. Lately, I have to wonder where that girl went! I mean all this time she's been saying, "I don't know," why not say it again fer crying out loud? Oh wait, I know, because the stupid ass writers backed themselves into a corner with this 'choice,' which turned out NOT to be a choice because nothing freaking changed! How was that a choice? Not unless come season 4, Damon leaves town for good and DE is over with. THEN that's a change and at this point I'd be fine with it. But, oh no, the torture of Damon will likely go on. They gotta have good old Damon there to kick around and bring in ratings. Crappy writing all around. I can't actually say I hate Elena, but I hate the way she's been written lately. I loved her when she really was that compassionate girl and she understood Damon and wanted to care about him, help him and be a friend to him when nobody else did. She made sense then. She makes no sense now. It's like it's not even her anymore.  She got Damon to open up, take a chance and care about people again and then she turns around and treats him like crap unless she needs something from him. Then it's all, "Oh Damon I don't know what I'd do without you." They make her look like a manipulative bitch not unlike Katherine. Even 3x19 can be looked at like a manipulation. He was trying to move on and she comes along with her, "Stefan thinks I have feelings for you," crap and gets his hopes up again by kissing him like that so 3 episodes later she can tell him to go to hell and oh by the way I don't love you and I'll be doing your brother, have a nice death.  OK maybe I am pretty pissed off at Elena...lol |
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Post by Doppelgänger on May 21, 2012 10:59:05 GMT -5
Yes, the whole entire season 3 was a waste. We still have the Originals pitted against them. We still have the triangle stalemate. Everything Stefan did was just forgotten. He's even almost cured of being a ripper in record time. What was the point of that season? Did they just want yet another failed Stelena relationship with a new twist, Elena is a vampire? Sorry, that's not gonna make me want to watch it either. If THAT'S the story they want to tell, I'm not interested.
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Post by iholland95 on Oct 2, 2012 20:07:34 GMT -5
I think you guys are forgetting to remember the flashback to when Damon and Elena first met. Remember that once Elena has transitioned into a vampire, she'll start to remember everything she was compelled to FORGET as a human like when Damon says "I love you Elena. But it's because I love you that I can't be selfish with you." Please keep this in mind before you go off and chuck her out the window so quickly
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Post by Slash on Oct 2, 2012 21:00:20 GMT -5
I've got a bias against Elena just so you know. Does she trump Sookie? They're both about even.
No one is forgetting. She'll remember that it was Damon she met first but the whole situation about her making a 'choice' in that moment is so goddamn forced. She didn't tell Damon to come home. She just cut him loose. For all they knew, with Klaus' supposed death, all them were about to follow him to the grave cause he was their bloodline. She goes home to spend the last bit of time she has with Caroline, Tyler, and Stefan but leaves Damon out in the cold like that? That's what's so bothersome about the S3 finale for me. No one cared about Damon's last moments or if he was with the people he cared for. He was busy getting his ass kicked by his recently 'dead' friend in those final moments and that's adding insult to injury. Elena dropping him like that and then to face his 'Bro'?
The other confusing aspect that we've talked about is how Bonnie was able to get from the storage place to MF but Elena & Matt wouldn't be able to make it (100 miles out?). Bonnie teleported with some magic? Bekah made it to and from the storage place with time to have conversations too + stand in the road to run Matt off. So Damon couldn't make it back? Or was he just distracting Alaric? I think with it being Alaric, if he thought he succeeded in killing Klaus, he would allow his 'friends' to have that last moment together and would let Damon go (granted Bekah & Elijah weren't there).
Really hoping S4's writing and overall logic of situations has improved...but I doubt it.
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Post by sourwolf on Oct 2, 2012 21:02:14 GMT -5
I didn't like the season 3 finale at first, but it grew on me after watching it a couple more times. The love triangle was handled terribly in the finale, though. I didn't think Elena had yet reached a point where she was going to choose Damon over Stefan, but I thought it was absolutely ridiculous that she made any choice at all. Everything that happened between Elena and Stefan throughout all of season 3 was rendered completely irrelevant in the finale because that put them right back to exactly where they left off before Stefan left town with Klaus. It made me feel like ripper Stefan and his separation from Elena was all for nothing.  It was also pretty cruel of Elena to call Damon up when he was very possibly about to die just to tell him she loves his brother more. Talk about worst timing ever to reject someone.  |
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Post by Slash on Oct 2, 2012 21:38:49 GMT -5
Yeah, all the bad that Stefan did during S3, I would have settled with Elena not choosing anyone (which still would have been fitting cause the whole rush to choose at that point in time was stupid cause both were about to die so everyone thought). All the Ripper stuff, telling Elena her brother's safety wasn't his problem and trying to drive her off the bridge her parents died off of? And she still went with him? She shouldn't have chose either one. She has to take another look at Stefan and she's still unsure of Damon so why make a choice?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2012 9:23:15 GMT -5
I think you guys are forgetting to remember the flashback to when Damon and Elena first met. Remember that once Elena has transitioned into a vampire, she'll start to remember everything she was compelled to FORGET as a human like when Damon says "I love you Elena. But it's because I love you that I can't be selfish with you." Please keep this in mind before you go off and chuck her out the window so quickly Yeah most of the earlier posts you're referring to were made way back after the finale had aired and the initial shock of Elena choosing Stefan in the finale over Damon was still fresh. It was frustrating and just didn't make sense at the time. Of course since it's been a while and we had time to cool down and reflect back on it we can see the more positive side of things. And yes Elena is going to get those memories back but that doesn't mean it's going to be a quick, "Oh I was wrong I didn't meet Stefan first! I should have chosen Damon!" She still stands firm in her decision and it'll take some time for it to build up to the DE parts where she'll eventually drift towards Damon. Elena's choice to be with Damon shouldn't be based on the fact that she met him first. It was a nice tidbit to add to Delena's dynamic but not something to be used as why she should be with Damon now. |
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Post by Doppelgänger on Oct 3, 2012 10:53:57 GMT -5
Yeah it will take a while for it to sink in with her what all that means to her. She might even be a bit pissed off that he compelled her at all. So, I expect as much.
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Post by Slash on Oct 3, 2012 11:17:37 GMT -5
I do expect her to be pissed at him for doing that. She'll use it as ammo and if her besties find out, they'll do the same. Regardless of his reasons for doing so, they'll chew him out for it.
I'd honestly be surprised if they don't go that route with it.
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Post by human on Oct 28, 2012 11:50:35 GMT -5
She should have chosen Damon. The entire darn season pointed to her choosing Damon in the end. By choosing Stefan, we may as well not have bothered with season 3. Everything is reset back to the way it was in season 2. The only difference is Elena will be a vampire come season 4. I think it was a cop-out to have her choose Stefan cause they were too chicken to change the status quo and now they are going to lose alot of fans over this decision. Stupid! I was against this section, because of the bashing, but I have to admit everything you just said is everything I feel too. By looking around the internet though they're are almost triple Damon and Elena fans to Stefan and Elena. So I don't agree with your comment about losing fans. >.< |
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Post by Doppelgänger on Oct 28, 2012 13:24:50 GMT -5
I was a tad upset when I wrote that.  But yeah, it turns out they didn't really lose the fans. I know people who said they weren't going to watch who are slowly coming back now that things are more positive for DE. I mean who can blame us when she ditched him over the phone? Then they kill off Alaric AND Elena, too. That was so sad. But it appears the DE family is still intact, some just took a little longer than others to forgive that and move forward. We're all just too darn addicted to this show I guess to ever give it up so I guess we'll just have to see what happens. |
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She got Damon to open up, take a chance and care about people again and then she turns around and treats him like crap unless she needs something from him. Then it's all, "Oh Damon I don't know what I'd do without you." They make her look like a manipulative bitch not unlike Katherine. 
