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Post by Slash on Oct 22, 2012 15:36:11 GMT -5
...why not compel away the Ripper or lock him down mentally? Wouldn't it be possible to trick the mind to not have or give in to those urges for blood?
Or even have Elijah or Bekah do it? Doesn't want anyone messing with his head or feels it's beneath him (or it's never crossed his mind)? He'd have to have someone else present when it happens to make sure nothing extra is suggested to him but wouldn't this be his best bet since he hasn't been able to permanently do something about it for near 150 years?
Elijah seems to be on good terms so he'd probably be their best bet but asking Bekah wouldn't be too crazy since us as the viewers are supposed to believe that she's become understanding/appreciative of SE to an extent (that's the crazy part) after their time in captivity. She's one of the factors that lead to Elena's death and you would think she could score some good will, with Stefan and/or Elena at least, if she could 'allow' the 2 to have a normal Vampire relationship without Stefan falling off the wagon again cause Elena got a snack.
I mean, Klaus wanted to give the guy someone to hate and direct all that anger towards so why not just strip him of that aspect? Too much admiration for the Ripper to see it locked away?
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Post by Doppelgänger on Oct 22, 2012 16:29:04 GMT -5
That's an interesting thought. I wonder if it is possible to compel it out of him.  |
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Post by pixiestyx on Oct 22, 2012 21:09:03 GMT -5
Klaus seemed to really love the Ripper Stefan. I don't think he'd want to help Stefan; he's the one who compelled Stefan to turn off his emotions so he could go back to being Ripper Stefan.
I guess Rebekah, Elijah or even Kol could compel Stefan not to lose control. But it kinda seems like cheating or the easy way out. Plus, I don't think Stefan actually wants to be 'cured'. He likes being all woe is me. Feel sorry for me, I am a Ripper.
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Post by Slash on Oct 22, 2012 21:29:06 GMT -5
Cheating? For all the trouble he goes through to avoid the Ripper, 'cheating' should be the last thing on his mind. The first thing is, "Can it help me?" Is the answer, "Yes", Stefan? Ask the question. Do they need a reasonable favor in return? Good deal. End result is you can live a 'normal' life with Elena if you so choose because you don't have to worry about going on a binge and losing another 30+ years of your life in a drunken blood haze. I figure if he asked Bekah and Bekah asked for sex in exchange, she'd renege when it was all said and done with just a look of sheer disgust and disappointment and just go up to Damon's room.
I think he doesn't want to get his s*** together. Ripper is his golden excuse. His sympathy card.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2012 9:32:21 GMT -5
I kind of think the compelling it away mentally would just make it worse. I think to when they compelled Jeremy to forget Vicki but he said the pain was still always there even if he didn't know what it was.
I think with Stefan unless he gets a grip of it on his own that urge would still be there and even more dangerous because he doesn't really know what it is that's giving him that urge and he could still probably go off being surrounded by blood. Mentally he won't know he's the ripper but I think his body would still react to the sight of blood.
At least if he's aware of his problem he knows what to do to avoid it.
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Post by Slash on Oct 23, 2012 10:38:51 GMT -5
Next logical solution/option would be to get some help in consolidating the Ripper and 'Stefan' into a single entity. This back and forth they're doing where one is locked away for decades and they despise the very existence of the other should be done away with. Offer some balance of both personas for a change. I don't think anyone with the ability to compel would even know where to start with that  |
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Post by Sweetluv4DE on Oct 23, 2012 12:15:04 GMT -5
I agree with melody here. If he was compelled maybe the lust for blood would turn into the lust for something else. Like with Jer the pain was where always. So maybe that lust would still be there but it would tun its direction to another form of murder or insanity?
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Post by Slash on Oct 23, 2012 14:51:54 GMT -5
Insane Stefan is interesting Stefan? And it's not like the new problems couldn't be compelled away either. Compulsion on top of compulsion on top of compulsion. He'd be a vegetable who sits and stares at the wall day by the time they're done with him. Or they could compel what he channels that urge into. Maybe channel it into model airplane building? |
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Post by pixiestyx on Oct 23, 2012 20:33:04 GMT -5
It's sort of what I meant by cheating. It doesn't really resolve anything, it's still there. Though what does it actually mean to be a Ripper? Stefan was supposed to lose control and feed so hard that he decapitates people....which we saw him do once as Klaus' wingman and once in a flashback. Every time else he seemed to be in control. He just killed a lot of people and was sometimes kinda twisted.  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2012 21:10:20 GMT -5
It's sort of what I meant by cheating. It doesn't really resolve anything, it's still there. Though what does it actually mean to be a Ripper? Stefan was supposed to lose control and feed so hard that he decapitates people....which we saw him do once as Klaus' wingman and once in a flashback. Every time else he seemed to be in control. He just killed a lot of people and was sometimes kinda twisted. I think that's just more of the writers not really wanting to go there with Stefan and there obvious attitude of not wanting to give him proper development.  As for the cheating I agree with that as well. I don't want Stefan to get a 'get out of jail free' card I want him to work to controlling the ripper on his own. |
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Post by Slash on Oct 23, 2012 23:14:31 GMT -5
Stefan doesn't work. You want something he's not capable of.
And yeah, him gnawing through necks is just the Writers not wanting to dirty his hands/image. They've given us peeks of how brutal he can get but that's it. The Lego girls in the early part of S3 and the one scene in the flashback. Otherwise, he just drains people. The aforementioned really does live up to the 'Ripper' name but just draining people doesn't. Want to see more of this getting so drunk on blood, he tears people apart and blacks out.
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Post by pixiestyx on Oct 23, 2012 23:27:10 GMT -5
^ and puts them back together. Don't forget that part. If they hadn't mentioned the decapitation and losing control, I could have been okay with the other version of Ripper!Stefan. He was a bit twisted and cruel (making the guy drink his wife's blood  ). I don't know. Maybe losing control was supposed to mean that he kills too many people when he's off the rails (ie: entire village) They just needed to be clearer on this. Because feeding so hard that you decapitate someone means a loss of control. Which we barely saw. |
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