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Post by Doppelgänger on Oct 19, 2012 16:53:38 GMT -5
Damon told Stefan in the church "Jealousy is beneath you" but I'm leaning towards Damon taking another verbal jab at Stefan. And it was low of Stefan at that point in time to hit him. If he wanted to do that, he should have done it when they were face to face earlier after Damon told him that bit of info. It was a low blow that I wont disagree with. I like the verbal jabs Damon does. BUT IF STEFAN DID IT TO DAMON would it be the same situation? And we all know Damon was being all sarcastic with the Jealousy is beneath you. It was one of my favorite scenes because it was brotherly bickering at its best haha I was waiting for Stefan to mock and repeat that to Damon with a funny face lol Stefan doesn't know how to make a funny face...all he knows is brood, brood, be pissed off, brood. Everything else he does is pretending. |
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Post by Slash on Oct 19, 2012 17:11:09 GMT -5
I think Damon should have just kept nagging for her to take fresh human blood till she gave in and said OK. Not only would it get her set, but he'd be there to help her and make sure she doesn't lose it and also he could have done what Caroline did by presenting her with the opportunity to compel someone too.
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Post by Ruby2579 on Oct 19, 2012 17:16:51 GMT -5
Depends on what he says. I don't think Damon should have thrown the blood sharing thing in Stefan's face either though. Elena came to Damon for help on the blood thing because she didn't want to hurt Stefan's feelings and Damon even tells her not to tell Stefan about what they're doing with the blood sharing. What does he do? In one of their arguments, he throws that very thing in Stefan's face with a 'Oops!' behind it. Both were in the wrong cause Damon's action lead to Elena getting in trouble with Stefan. Granted, it was out in the open at the earliest instead of this going on for weeks or something or better yet, it could have been swept under the rug when Elena told him she didn't take to his blood and they could just leave it at that. Both draw a line at where the 'jabs' are playful and when they won't stand for them. Damon was piling on during one of the latter cases after he dropped the blood sharing bombshell on Stefan. Slash you said it perfectly. This is what im saying they both gave eachother cheapshots. DAMON did it verbally and Stefan did it physically. And Doppel Damon sharing that elena was starving wasnt the shot it was the more hey look at what your girl decided to share with me and not with you n look what we got to do in the middle of it. |
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Post by pixiestyx on Oct 19, 2012 20:44:54 GMT -5
So I Was thinking! What if the reason why Caroline is kind of drawn to klaus without realizing is because she had his blood. She technically drank from him when she was dying... I don't think that's it. It wasn't really blood sharing in the sense of what Damon did with Elena. It was medicine. |
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Post by Slash on Oct 19, 2012 20:54:24 GMT -5
Then why aren't you wondering why Damon & Katherine aren't trying to sex him up? Klaus' blood saved both of them too.
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Post by Ruby2579 on Oct 20, 2012 0:15:38 GMT -5
Lol yea i guess
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Post by Sweetluv4DE on Oct 20, 2012 1:58:20 GMT -5
Cheap shots maybe? But Stefan sucker punched Damon like a little punk. Also one is verbal and one was physical violence. Not saying Damon didn't deserve a punch from old saint Stefan but there is a huge difference between the cheap shots. Lets not pretend they are equal bc they are not.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2012 9:14:06 GMT -5
Whoa this topic was a bit scary to read through. That could have been a great topic for us in the debate thread since it's been a while since we had a topic to dispute over  I liked that JP kept the intimacy of the blood sharing except in the books it was even more personal/intimate/sacred for vampires since they couldn't even have sex at all. So in the show where they can have sex, it's like instead of being like well blood sharing is like lying down next to someone naked. It makes you wonder, well why don't you just actually go lie down next to that person naked. Yeah I know that'll be more in regards to Stefan and Elena than Damon and Elena but since JP described blood sharing nearly on the same intimacy level wouldn't they just take sex over that? Or are they gonna be like so we doing sex or blood sharing this evening? On another note it's four seasons and Elena has only done it with Damon so far and in the books Elena shared blood with both brothers occasionally. I kind of thought JP would ignore the blood sharing since reading about it is different than actually seeing it. But she wrote it in and now I wonder how periodically they'll keep using it or if it's just going to be a two or three thing throughout a season. Well didn't initially think my post was going to be this long but things kept popping in my head |
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Post by Doppelgänger on Oct 20, 2012 9:29:19 GMT -5
They also didn't fully explain what 'personal' meant because surely they weren't just talking about the equivalent of spooning. I'm wondering if it goes deeper like it did in the books where she could feel their soul, who they are on the inside sort of thing. I'm kind of hoping more will be said about it in later episodes. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2012 10:00:33 GMT -5
Yeah I'm hoping to address that subject some more and it doesn't just become one of those things they touch on but never address again.
They should have had Stefan touch on it a bit more and explain it instead of him going, you fed on him Elena you fed on him. It was kinda hard for us to be like super shocked over the fact in that scene when we really don't know how deep the blood sharing goes on the show like you said about the books.
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Post by Sweetluv4DE on Oct 20, 2012 10:51:28 GMT -5
It did suck that Stefan got all mad at her but didn't explain why. She is a new vamp she doesn't understand why it's so personal. I mean she knows the act itself was. I'm sure she could feel how close they were on each other and Damon petting her head as she cradled his arms and hand but any further than that she doesn't get it. What does the blood do to you or the experience. What does it mean? Does it make you closer bond you? He said it meant something to Damon so what does that mean? The person letting the other feed is more affected than say the person feeding? It was all left in the open and it's something that needs to be explained better!
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Post by Doppelgänger on Oct 20, 2012 12:36:13 GMT -5
Yeah they do need to explain. I'm hoping that it does actually bond them in some ways, like perhaps Elena could feel and understand Damon's emotional state better. I am of course going off what the books made of it but the show is based off the books, so, it's possible. Elena did talk about being able to feel everyone's grief right after Stefan had his little speech about how she shouldn't have fed on Damon and maybe that was a clue. I don't know. This show is sometimes hard to read and especially Elena.
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Post by pixiestyx on Oct 20, 2012 20:36:42 GMT -5
I don't think it bonds them per say. With the exception of Mikael, vampire blood sharing seems to be very rare and with Mikael it was all business.
It's supposed to be with your one true vampire love and my guess is that when it IS with your one true vampire love it's very erotic and special. Look at how Damon and Elena reacted. It obviously meant a lot to Damon. But it meant a lot to Elena, even if she doesn't fully understand why. She shoved him into the wall and ground her hip into his crotch. She was into it and I don't think it has anything to do with her being hungry.
I think that if Elena were to drink from Stefan, she wouldn't have the same reaction. It would be more business like because Stefan is not her one true vampire love; Damon is.
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Post by Ruby2579 on Oct 20, 2012 21:09:42 GMT -5
I think it was because she was hungry. Like maybe she was into it but to say she wouldnt react the same way with stefan is kind of just your own theory. We dont know how she would act. In the books she shared with both brothers. Would i want to see her share blood with stefan. Well i dont know because everyone will make some comment on how she wasnt into it or it was wack because damon did it first.. i try to look at both brothers without putting neither one on a pedastile even if some characters do it but it just shows me both are flawed conflicted characters and have their own mindset.
Cheap shots punching while hes on the floor stabbing eachother. They do it all the time its how the salvatore brothers fight.
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Post by pixiestyx on Oct 20, 2012 22:32:14 GMT -5
I think it was because she was hungry. Like maybe she was into it but to say she wouldnt react the same way with stefan is kind of just your own theory. We dont know how she would act. In the books she shared with both brothers. Would i want to see her share blood with stefan. Well i dont know because everyone will make some comment on how she wasnt into it or it was wack because damon did it first.. i try to look at both brothers without putting neither one on a pedastile even if some characters do it but it just shows me both are flawed conflicted characters and have their own mindset. Cheap shots punching while hes on the floor stabbing eachother. They do it all the time its how the salvatore brothers fight. Well yes, it is my own theory and I didn't mean to imply otherwise. Just as it is your theory that she reacted the way she did because she was hungry and, if I understand what you wrote right, she would act the same with Stefan if they blood shared. The show hasn’t shown us otherwise yet and we only go on how we interpret the scene. But I stand by what I said. Was she hungry? Yes. I still don’t think her reaction had anything to do with her being hungry. Look at how she was with Matt. She was starving then too, probably even more than she was when she drank from Damon. But she didn’t react the same way even though it was “from the veinâ€. She was able to control herself (and yes, there’s questions around how she able to do this as a new starving vamp which I’m not going to get into) and didn’t really drink all that much. Based on how much she vomited, she drank a lot of Damon’s blood. The question is WHY was it so different with Damon. JP specifically said that it was something that should only be shared with your ‘one true vampire love’. Elena is Damon’s one true vampire love and since I believe Damon is Elena’s one true vampire love, this is why I think it would not be the same with Stefan. I’m not even going to bring the books into this since I haven’t read them but from what I know they’ve deviated so much from the books they basically are similar in name only. The show pulls some elements from them but other than that they aren’t really the same. |
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