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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2012 9:10:11 GMT -5
Okay I couldn't resist on the title  But anyways I don't really think there's any cure and I don't think it's that easy. Not easy as in the sense of having all the five together with their maps, of course that part is complicated but I mean the cure portion itself. Let's go back to what Alex said to Bekah. If there was really a cure, and he knew she was a vampire, why wouldn't he just wait till things were set up and give her a cure instead of just putting her down. Wouldn't he have done that if he really loved her? Or what if all the talk about a cure was a lie and it isn't a 'true' cure. As in what if for someone like Damon and Stefan who are over a hundred years old, as soon as they take the cure, they're body would age rapidly to that age and they would die on the spot. Sure they're 'cured' of their vampirism but they're dead in the long run. But let's say if vampirism makes it as if you're frozen in time and the cure 'unfreezes' you and you're back to being 17 or whatever, what if there's horrible side effects that would drive you insane, and mad. What if there's a problem and even as a human food doesn't appeal to you and you still need to consume blood. I don't know just throwing out ideas but I don't think the cure is as easy as one, two, three and people are freaking out on tumblr, twitter over nothing. It's never that simple when it comes to TVD  |
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Post by Sweetluv4DE on Nov 2, 2012 10:29:18 GMT -5
The only thing that I ever thought about when it came to a "cure" was I wrote a fan fic and Bonnie found a spell that turns vampires into humans through one stone. She only had one stone and it was only enough to turn one vamp. So of course Damon and Elena could be human together which is my dream because IF ANYONE deserves to be human it's DAMON! Anyway the spell turns and preserves their bodies. So they would stay the age they were and there would be no aging.
But you ask a great question. Julie has a way of introducing things and there are a million things wrong with it and instead of making it believable she makes it a mystery that has to be solved over several episodes all awhile we see it as unbelievable and stupid because we are questioning the hell out of it. Then it's revealed and were like ok? But this that and the other.
She needs to just introduce it to us and give us all the info so we can move on with the story and not sit here and find reasons or loop holes before it's even explained.
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Post by Slash on Nov 2, 2012 10:53:07 GMT -5
They keep talking about how every Vampire kills someone and the 'switch'. If they turn back human, who's to say that their emotions don't go haywire and get flooded with all the kills they've made? Depression sets in, some get suicidal, etc.. As a Vampire, they can turn this off if they choose but as a human...it'll get ugly for some of them.
There probably is something up with all of it. Alexander knew Bekah was a Vampire so all of what he told her (aside from the Sword and a few other tidbits) may have been lies cause he thought he had her and her family in the bag at that point.
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Post by Sweetluv4DE on Nov 2, 2012 11:00:40 GMT -5
That whole switch thing kills me because Stefan has no trust in Elena. He kept talking about his fear and the "switch" to Rebekah but she is not like you STEFAN! Caroline is more emotional and dramatic than Elena and she transitioned fine thing is I think she had more support and help.
To me with the whole Stefan cant come help shows me Stefan isn't cured and underneath all his hard work still lives a monster. I've known alcoholics who had a hard hard time with drinking. But they are so cured now they are bartenders and have been around drinks for years and are never tempted. That is a true person cured. Stefan is not cured AT ALL. He is only fooling himself. I think honestly that Stefan has to learn how to use blood. Not drink it but use it. he needs to learn how to let his life run the blood not the blood run his life. I find it sad that he cant even help Elena. I think he could be the one but he is still that ripper deep down and how could he be who he needs to be for Elena if the monster still lives in him?
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Post by Slash on Nov 2, 2012 11:12:33 GMT -5
I actually hate that his fears have bled into Elena. Her constantly going on about her fearing she may be a Ripper. Shut up. That's Stefan talking. Damon has shown that you have control. This flip flopping on "I want more" and "I hated it" needs to stop.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2012 11:47:43 GMT -5
Stefan should have gone with them. Like Sweet said he really isn't cured or he wouldn't be so scared to help Elena. Also with how Stefan is so quick to shoot down blood and whatnot and the cons of it all it's no wonder that Elena would be afraid that she's a ripper as well. It's like one of those psychology things when someone talks about a certain symptom, disease etc. and you end up thinking that you have that certain thing. If Stefan had more faith in her, like he did with Caroline, she'd have a different mindset.
Also with the thing about not really explaining fully about the cure, I think it's a way to drag out the storyline like with the moonstone arc where we got revealed a new bit of info each episode.
Also I think even the characters don't know themselves. It's been 900 years and the cure hasn't been uncovered. Even Klaus himself doesn't fully know if it's going to work or not but it's worth a shot. Elena and Stefan are the guinea pigs for it not him.
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Post by pixiestyx on Nov 3, 2012 23:32:15 GMT -5
I'm still a bit worried about this cure but we really don't know anything about it.
What if it turns them human again but then ages them to the age that they should be. So like in Damon and Stefan's case they'd be dead because they were vampires for 150 yrs and humans don't live to that age.
Why have hunters then? Why kill vampires if you can just 'cure' them? Something's not right with it.
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Post by Slash on Nov 3, 2012 23:47:43 GMT -5
Simple: Witches.
Why go to the gas station around the block for a soda and some chips when you can go clear across town for them. This seems to the Witch way of thinking and they're supposed to be the 'Architects of the Supernatural'. I feel bad for all non-Witch/non-Human species in the TVD universe if these people are the ones 'in charge'.
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Post by phoenix on Nov 4, 2012 5:27:37 GMT -5
Okay I couldn't resist on the title But anyways I don't really think there's any cure and I don't think it's that easy. Not easy as in the sense of having all the five together with their maps, of course that part is complicated but I mean the cure portion itself. I agree IF there's a cure that there would be a catch of some kind. Nothing would be that easy. Look at how the writers twisted the sun and moon curse and turned it into a break the hybrid curse. I think Alexander flat out lied to Rebekah, he knew what she and her family were and said what he did as a distraction from the truth. He wanted to kill vampires and didn't care about hurting Rebekah. Kind of like Connor isn't concerned about human life. His only focus is killing vampires. It seems the hunters are seriously lacking human emotions like compassion and a sense of right and wrong. I'm still on the fence about the cure itself - I'm not sure if I want to believe there is one or not but whatever it turns out to be there will be consequences for finding/taking it. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2012 10:03:27 GMT -5
Yeah I mean with the way the hunters go on about vampires being demons/abominations/evil etc. it just seems weird for them to turn around and be like, ' But hey man there's this cure and if you take it you'll be cool with me and we can go out chat and get some drinks.' Even when Esther was going to turn her children back to humans she was still going to kill them. |
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Post by Slash on Nov 4, 2012 10:27:44 GMT -5
There probably is no cure unless Esther was that crazy. If she could turn her children human with her spell and let them live a normal life, why not? I think at the most, she'd be able to turn them human but because they were alive, Vampires would still exist and maybe because of the fact that they'd die a 'natural' death in that case, those linked to them wouldn't die (maybe some loophole/fine print with the design). In other words, if she allowed them to live out a normal life, Vampires would still exist.
It makes no sense for Esther to go that far in killing her children *AFTER* turning them human. There is something 'fishy' with the whole Originals turned to Human again thing that probably needs to them to die either way to rid the world of Vampires.
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Post by Slash on Nov 4, 2012 15:47:56 GMT -5
To add to the last post, what if the Hunters are another attempt by Esther? What if she wanted to correct that mistake earlier on and she got in contact with another Witch (a Bennett) and had her cast the spell in her place? This Bennett did a bang up job and it was only until recently that Esther was able to attempt the 'Human' thing again now that she had a body and later on, attempt to create a better Hunter in Alaric. Maybe the Witch she tasked before didn't want to create another 'super' being to do battle with Esther's own and toned down what was done with the Five.
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