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Post by mysticangel on Feb 3, 2013 6:31:11 GMT -5
We get a new piece of info in Episode 14 that "changes the stakes". When a stunning new piece of information about the cure is suddenly revealed, it changes the stakes for everyone. Read more: tvd1.proboards.com/thread/460/episode-4x14-rabbit-hole#ixzz2JpnGxmNCAnd in 15, Bonnie reveals the rest of Shane's plan, which is horrifying. I had that confused with the synopsis in episode 14 a bit- Shane doesn't give a damn about the cure, it's Silas he wants. Still, I'm curious about what the info in 14 is now. Here's the full synopsis for 15: “THE TERRIBLE TRUTH — When Stefan arrives back in Mystic Falls with Elena and Jeremy, Caroline is immediately worried about Elena’s state of mind. Stefan reaches out to Dr. Fell (guest star Torrey DeVitto) and Matt for help. Still on the island, Damon relays somber news to Rebekah, and is surprised at her reaction. Together, Damon and Rebekah learn an unexpected bit of recent history from Vaughn (guest star Charlie Bewley). Everyone is horrified when Bonnie reveals the rest of Shane’s (guest star David Alpay) plan. Finally, after Damon does his best to help her, Elena comes up with a plan of her own. Read more: tvd1.proboards.com/thread/461/episode-4x15-stand-me#ixzz2JpovNDhF |
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Post by Doppelgänger on Feb 3, 2013 9:09:53 GMT -5
Well the rest of Shane's plan, assuming he really isn't interested in the cure, would probably not be about the cure, but what he wants with Silas. Maybe he wants some sort of power himself or maybe he IS Silas, his real body is trapped but he managed to put his essence into another one (like we've seen Klaus do). So it could be alot of things but no matter what, Silas seems extremely dangerous and I'm still wondering why the gang is so hellbent on raising him.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2013 9:19:03 GMT -5
Well the rest of Shane's plan, assuming he really isn't interested in the cure, would probably not be about the cure, but what he wants with Silas. Maybe he wants some sort of power himself or maybe he IS Silas, his real body is trapped but he managed to put his essence into another one (like we've seen Klaus do). So it could be alot of things but no matter what, Silas seems extremely dangerous and I'm still wondering why the gang is so hellbent on raising him. I agree and for some reason I feel like Shane is Silas. Shane seems a little too good at manipulating to just be a professor PLUS he has all this knowledge, but he is kinda young to have had all this knowledge...maybe when he saw Silas headstone Silas was able to take over his body or maybe Shane did a spell for him to. It is just weird because The originals have been around forever practically and don't seem to know half as much as Shane. |
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Post by Slash on Feb 3, 2013 11:07:48 GMT -5
Yeah, Shane being Silas has been on my mind ever since he told the story. He knows a bit too much about the supernatural and is manipulating way too many people to just be a 'follower'. There is something more to him. I think he's depowered Silas or is Silas using a 'vessel'(kind of like how Esther could use Bonnie/talk to people despite being on the other side). Silas isn't exactly dead but I think he'd be able to bend the rules given his power/methods (what little we know) and manipulate people to free him. He just needs too many pieces to come together (a capable Bennett practicing expression, his headstone which Shane had which would be obvious of one knowing where their own body is buried, the Sword which Bekah seemed to only know about, the various 12 sacrifices, etc.). A lot of this seems to rely on stuff outside the çult/follower circle so it's reasonable as to why even if Shane is Silas in some capacity, why it's taken him so long for all these pieces to come together to work in his favor.
As for the gang and raising Silas, I still don't understand it myself. Kol explained it he ran into followers before and killed them. He also said he's spent his time with Witches who didn't want Silas back either. Kol, who is generally kind of 'eh' to the gang and their affairs has taken a huge interest in this and they just brush him off/laugh at him. No one seems to be considering what he was saying really cause it's all "Cure, cure, cure, cure." Bekah wants to get it to spite Klaus, Damon & Stefan want to get it to help Elena (as does Bonnie & Jeremy), Klaus we initially thought wanted it for my Hybrids but now he wants to destroy it. It's all about the cure to them and they're paying little, if any nevermind to the fact that it's buried alongside the first immortal who would bring "Hell on Earth". Bright kids the lot of them.
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Post by mysticangel on Feb 3, 2013 12:26:23 GMT -5
I for one am kind of full speed ahead with the whole "let's get the cure and in the process of doing so resurrect Silas" thing, albeit entirely for selfish reasons.
I want a new villain. Klaus got sort of old for me, and then the writers tried to turn him into someone I'm supposed to empathize with while giving him few to no redeeming qualities, thanks to writing that made him pretty much invincible. As a result there's been little or no character development, and Klaus went stale for me as a viewer.
Did LJ Smith write anything interesting about Silas into the books? I'm after what kind of personality the guy has.
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Post by Slash on Feb 3, 2013 13:54:16 GMT -5
I've always had a problem with the way the show has brought in the Originals, starting in S2. I feel like the 'Original Vampires' should have been a storyline left later. Bringing in people that powerful, Klaus of all who is a Hybrid, was just showing your hand way too early.
And is Silas in the books?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2013 14:19:33 GMT -5
To answer the question about Silas, no he's not in the books.
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Post by Sweetluv4DE on Feb 3, 2013 19:21:03 GMT -5
What if Shane is being possessed by Silus. Like the movie Fallen with Denzel Washington?? He is immortal but his body his original body needs to be resurrected. If his human body dies he can jump into another body. Maybe Shane really lost his family and Silus jumped bodies into Shane bc of his vulnerable state? Maybe the more vulnerable the easier to possess? If Shane dies then Silus finds a new human capsule. Hence the immortality! His body cld be preserved because of the witches spell??? He's not 100% unless he is in his body. So his immortal soul needs his body to be the oh powerful one again!
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Post by Doppelgänger on Feb 3, 2013 19:47:40 GMT -5
One thing I think hints at Shane being Silas is the fact they he has had to get others to do all his preparations for the 'resurrection.' He didn't do any of it himself and if he wasn't Silas why wouldn't he have? He had the pastor kill 12 people. He had Hayley unsire and orchestrate Klaus to kill the 12 hybrids. He's pulling all the strings but he isn't actually doing any of it himself which I find to be an interesting thing.
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Post by Slash on Feb 4, 2013 4:48:27 GMT -5
I want a new villain. Klaus got sort of old for me, and then the writers tried to turn him into someone I'm supposed to empathize with while giving him few to no redeeming qualities, thanks to writing that made him pretty much invincible. As a result there's been little or no character development, and Klaus went stale for me as a viewer. Writers wrote themselves into a corner. If Klaus is their bloodline, they can't kill him (I'm assuming that's what you mean by the writing making him invincible: as a Hybrid, he's top tier and as the bloodline to most of the gang, he's got plot protection as well). That's kind of an underlying drive for the cure I guess cause they can finally get rid of him if they turn him human (a grand assumption cause essentially, you're removing the head of the bloodline which may have the same affect of killing one unless the bloodline death is tied to White Oak being used). They had an out to give the character some downtime by desiccating him and dropping him in the ocean (maybe bring him back later when they need a heavy hitter for a bigger villain such as Silas so this would take Klaus out of the picture for a season give or take to make a grand entrance in S5) but they did away with that to jump him into Tyler's body and continue his presence. I think they still could have done this storyline without him until later. Bekah knew where the Sword was, other characters have reason for wanting the Cure, Tyler could have broken the Hybrids free still and instead of Klaus killing them, he could have used them as a test for a pissed off Bonnie or did some more manipulation for one of the other Originals to put them down (manipulate Kol that the Hybrids are followers/looking to find the cure to become human and he takes them out). |
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