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Post by Princess of Darkness on Jan 13, 2012 17:37:09 GMT -5
Stefan pissed me off last night. & TBH, it's not even what he did- the whole bridge thing was truly  up because of her parents, but I think it's something that both I as a viewer, and even eventually, Elena, can look past. But all I can say right now-- is not cool Stefan, not cool at all.
What really bugged be about all of it though-- is what he seemed willing to do, and how far he was willing to go, because after last night, I'm really not convinced that Stefan wouldn't have killed Elena if Klaus hadn't agreed.. THAT really gives the viewer an idea of where Stefan is as far as mindset goes... 
But that isn't the only thing that really pissed me off, it's also that just Stefan couldn't keep his mouth shut and live with what he'd done-- no, he had to make Elena feel worse, to somehow try and make her feel guilty."I lost you the minute I left town with him... you just haven't let yourself admit that yet." [/size]
But, it was very intriguing... and this brings me back to all sorts of things.. like, honestly, did Elena really think that in the finale, Stefan could just go to Klaus for a cure and that everything would be all daisies and rainbows?
Of course Klaus was gonna either A, kill Stefan on the spot, or B, want something in return-- and she let him go, knowing that.. It isn't as if she wouldn't have had some idea that something bad would probably come of it.
But yet, she let him go to Klaus-- because Damon's life was in danger.
Then, she went to Damon on his deathbed, where she kissed him- and for the months that followed, after Klaus & Stefan's disappearance, they both grew closer and looked after each other, the way people who love each other would.
More and more so, up until that kiss in 3x10-- and then that kiss made Elena face reality, made her face her true feelings for Damon, feelings she's long been lying to herself about, denying to everyone else.. especially Damon. I imagine with everything else going on, it's probably just all too much to handle... which goes with what Damon told her.. "It's right.. just not right now."[/font]
“The question of ‘Does Elena love Damon [and] has she been fully falling for him all along?’ is going to be very much a part of the season,” Plec says. December 29th, 2011 10:16 PM by TV Fanatic Staff
^ That quote fits so perfectly with everything-- and it reminds me of Damon's quote from 2x01. [/font] "You are the liar Elena. There is something going on between the two of us and you know it... And you're lying to me, you're lying to Stefan, and most of all you're lying to yourself.. I can prove it." [/center] |
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Post by Sweetluv4DE on Jan 13, 2012 18:01:33 GMT -5
Pink I loved that!!! I was mad over everything but especially how he tried to turn it on her!  So two things I want to tell you guys.... Forwood Bite! I blames Stefan not Tyler! Even Klaus said she was collateral damage. Tyler is sired. he cant even think straight. he says no and somehow he still has to do it. He has no free will if Klaus tells him to do something. He bit Care bc Klaus was pissed at Stefan! he did it to send STEFAN a message not Tyler. He could care less about Tyler. Stefan is to blame when it comes to Jer and Alaric and now Care and Tyler. Now Tyler is being tortured by Care's dad. All of this is a chain reaction to stealing the coffins and I blame Stefan! Give Klaus the f-in coffins back and everyone can be safe again DAMN! Also i was thinking about Julie Plec's comment about Joey and Pacey and thinking about how Joey reacted to their kiss afterwards. She was mean to Pacey. Fighting with him and being all snarky! Just like Elena was being in that web clip. I guess when you try to fight yourself about the feelings you have you take it out on the person who is forcing those feelings out of you! Both Damon and Pacey kissed these girls. And both of these girls for months had been fighting their feelings for the guys! And both girls are treating the guys rudely to mask their confusion and ultimately true feelings! Love how JACEY is so foreshadowing to Delena! |
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Post by thebabe20 on Jan 13, 2012 22:09:56 GMT -5
I'm having the best, most biggest cupcake I ever had! It's so good, I know I'll feel guilty when I'm done. Should of known better than to move next to a sweets shop!
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Post by Doppelgänger on Jan 13, 2012 22:33:45 GMT -5
Yum! I'm fasting so no sweets for me...I just feel like I need to cleanse my body right now so I am. But when I'm done....look out! We actually have this place called Sweet! and the owner makes food for Hollywood peeps and her cupcakes are so heavenly.
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Post by pixiestyx on Jan 13, 2012 23:07:36 GMT -5
I can't believe anyone can excuse what Stefan did. I think it's worse than what Damon has done.
Damon snapping Jeremy's neck was awful, horrible and nearly unforgivable. I was angry when he did it. But I also could see where it was coming from. Katherine told him she never loved him, Elena tells him nearly the same thing, he's drunk and it was an impulse. One that he knew immediately that he'd done the wrong thing.
What Stefan did was deliberate and cruel. It was no impulse drawn from a deep well of hurt. No, he purposely feed Elena his blood and to that bridge where her parents died and she nearly did. And I think he would have done it.
Say what you will about Damon, I've never found him really cruel. When he kills, it's quickly and efficiently. It's Stefan who likes to drag it out and torment his victims. Look how he killed Andie and that was BEFORE he was compelled.
As for Damon's pride, I'm of two minds. I think he liked the results but NOT the method. As for him saying he was proud, I think he was trying, poorly, to lighten the mood as it was said with a bit of a smirk. What makes it okay for me is that immediately after, he asks her to tell him the truth; is she really ok.
I can forgive Stefan, eventually, because I forgave Damon but he is really going to have to work for it.
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Post by Klovin'11 on Jan 14, 2012 10:39:58 GMT -5
I don't see how people can think that the whole car thing was Stefan putting on an act.  I do believe Stefan would have crashed the car if Klaus didn't blink. But I'm not sure what use it is going to do.. it's not like Klaus won't get back at him in another way. |
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Post by Doppelgänger on Jan 14, 2012 12:48:54 GMT -5
I don't see how people can think that the whole car thing was Stefan putting on an act. I do believe Stefan would have crashed the car if Klaus didn't blink. But I'm not sure what use it is going to do.. it's not like Klaus won't get back at him in another way. No, they're already saying how he'd never have done it. I think he would have done it, too. I mean really, why not? He was committed to winning that round with Klaus. It's pretty ironic and insensitve to do it on the bridge she nearly died on before though...wow. I'd really have trouble forgiving him for that. |
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Post by Sweetluv4DE on Jan 14, 2012 18:33:33 GMT -5
I think he was capable of doing it and that is enough for me. Whether he would have or not is irrelevant. it's whether he was capable of doing it and I say HELL YES!
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Post by LovingDamon4Ever on Jan 14, 2012 23:50:21 GMT -5
Well it's certainly one hell of a pissing match between Klaus and Stefan.
I think the Original witch or someone is messing with Stefan.
That will be their grand excuse.
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Post by Klovin'11 on Jan 15, 2012 0:03:34 GMT -5
Stefan is an old fart and should be able to take responsibility for himself! Stefan's excuses can go to  Just sayin'.. |
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Post by LovingDamon4Ever on Jan 15, 2012 0:11:25 GMT -5
<<<----No matter what Stephan does....
<<<----He will NEVER look like this! 
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Post by Doppelgänger on Jan 15, 2012 12:05:48 GMT -5
I've never found Stefan attractive and my friends who've watched it are even less kind about him. Oh well, I guess some people do.
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Post by pixiestyx on Jan 15, 2012 13:22:13 GMT -5
I've never found Stefan attractive and my friends who've watched it are even less kind about him. Oh well, I guess some people do. So it's not just me. I don't find Stefan attractive at all. Or Tyler. Or Jeremy. To each their own. |
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Post by Doppelgänger on Jan 15, 2012 14:12:57 GMT -5
I've never found Stefan attractive and my friends who've watched it are even less kind about him. Oh well, I guess some people do. So it's not just me. I don't find Stefan attractive at all. Or Tyler. Or Jeremy. To each their own. I think Jeremy is a cutie, but not Tyler or Matt. But I mean nobody on this show is butt ugly.  |
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Post by pixiestyx on Jan 15, 2012 14:43:53 GMT -5
So it's not just me. I don't find Stefan attractive at all. Or Tyler. Or Jeremy. To each their own. I think Jeremy is a cutie, but not Tyler or Matt. But I mean nobody on this show is butt ugly. Well, maybe not butt ugly....  |
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