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Post by delena4eva on Dec 17, 2011 14:09:44 GMT -5
You have no idea how happy I am Tommy is dead. But I do like what Sam has with Luna. Sookie and Alcide? Eh, whatever. It's a bit much when you have Bill, Eric, Alcide and Sam all after her at one point or another. I'm starting to agree with Pam: "I am so over Sookie and her precious fairy vagina and her unbelievably stupid name." OMG she said that? That is so funny!!  |
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Post by Slash on Dec 17, 2011 14:26:27 GMT -5
I'm starting to agree with Pam: "I am so over Sookie and her precious fairy vagina and her unbelievably stupid name."  Pam Boo on Eric for treating her the way he did. The scene with her and Ginger (think that's the girl's name who works for them at Fangtasia) was kind of touching cause you could see how tore up she was about Eric being mad at her over 'Sookeh' and she told Ginger not to touch her but she sat down next to her to comfort her anyways. I'm actually kind of waiting for Pam's character to pop back up in OUAT, possibly present day (Maleficent) since she was the Queen's 'only friend'. |
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Post by Princess of Darkness on Dec 17, 2011 16:02:12 GMT -5
I'm starting to agree with Pam: "I am so over Sookie and her precious fairy vagina and her unbelievably stupid name."  Pam Boo on Eric for treating her the way he did. The scene with her and Ginger (think that's the girl's name who works for them at Fangtasia) was kind of touching cause you could see how tore up she was about Eric being mad at her over 'Sookeh' and she told Ginger not to touch her but she sat down next to her to comfort her anyways.
I'm actually kind of waiting for Pam's character to pop back up in OUAT, possibly present day (Maleficent) since she was the Queen's 'only friend'.[/b][/size] THIS. I got so excited when I saw her on there... and her character on OUAT seemed the more level-headed of two. (Her & the Evil Queen.)
I love Pam, and she's really funny.. but she acted like a child with a tantrum most of last season. I get it-- Eric and her have a special bond. He's her maker, after all. But you also have to look at it in Eric's perspective-- and things were really put into perspective for him last season. He saw what it was to be loved, felt what it was to be happy again--- and probably realized that all the pain and grief he'd caused and taken in his life-- wasn't worth it. Even after he regained his memory, I'm sure some of what he'd experienced-- resonated with him. Pam is a painful reminder of that. Her ideals, her personality--- I can only imagine what it must be like to face that he is the creator of such a monster as she-- someone who has zero value for human life-- or for any life really, other than her own and her makers. Almost every word out of her mouth is a selfish one and again, not something he'd really want to face after everything that happened last season, is it?
Anyways, for those of you REALLY craving some Pam/Eric, I have a good spoiler for you. ---->
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Post by Slash on Dec 17, 2011 16:25:23 GMT -5
Pam Boo on Eric for treating her the way he did. The scene with her and Ginger (think that's the girl's name who works for them at Fangtasia) was kind of touching cause you could see how tore up she was about Eric being mad at her over 'Sookeh' and she told Ginger not to touch her but she sat down next to her to comfort her anyways.
I'm actually kind of waiting for Pam's character to pop back up in OUAT, possibly present day (Maleficent) since she was the Queen's 'only friend'. [/b][/size] THIS. I got so excited when I saw her on there... and her character on OUAT seemed the more level-headed of two. (Her & the Evil Queen.)
I love Pam, and she's really funny.. but she acted like a child with a tantrum most of last season. I get it-- Eric and her have a special bond. He's her maker, after all. But you also have to look at it in Eric's perspective-- and things were really put into perspective for him last season. He saw what it was to be loved, felt what it was to be happy again--- and probably realized that all the pain and grief he'd caused and taken in his life-- wasn't worth it. Even after he regained his memory, I'm sure some of what he'd experienced-- resonated with him. Pam is a painful reminder of that. Her ideals, her personality--- I can only imagine what it must be like to face that he is the creator of such a monster as she-- someone who has zero value for human life-- or for any life really, other than her own and her makers. Almost every word out of her mouth is a selfish one and again, not something he'd really want to face after everything that happened last season, is it?
Anyways, for those of you REALLY craving some Pam/Eric, I have a good spoiler for you. ---->
Wondering how Eric made Pam? We’ll finally see how it all happened in season 5.[/quote]I see Pam a bit differently. I think she does care outside of herself and Eric but doesn't exactly know how to show it with everyone, not to mention she seems stuck in that "Humans are beneath us" mentality and her personality so to speak is one of sarcasm. She seems to be there a lot of the time for Jessica, which is something Bill should be doing. I think she's just fed up with Sookie and her antics, which always puts Eric at risk. Honestly, I don't blame her. If someone I knew kept someone I held closely in constant danger by association, I'd more than likely have the same attitude as Pam towards them. Also, within the Maker/Prodigy thing, she's most likely been following an example set by Eric. We saw how Bill and Lorena were and Bill was stuck doing things with her, her way despite not liking it and eventually breaking away. I think if she's given some time with 'new' Eric, she'll come around but the less of Sookie during that period, probably the better. |
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Post by Princess of Darkness on Dec 17, 2011 18:04:15 GMT -5
[/b][/size] THIS. I got so excited when I saw her on there... and her character on OUAT seemed the more level-headed of two. (Her & the Evil Queen.)
I love Pam, and she's really funny.. but she acted like a child with a tantrum most of last season. I get it-- Eric and her have a special bond. He's her maker, after all. But you also have to look at it in Eric's perspective-- and things were really put into perspective for him last season. He saw what it was to be loved, felt what it was to be happy again--- and probably realized that all the pain and grief he'd caused and taken in his life-- wasn't worth it. Even after he regained his memory, I'm sure some of what he'd experienced-- resonated with him. Pam is a painful reminder of that. Her ideals, her personality--- I can only imagine what it must be like to face that he is the creator of such a monster as she-- someone who has zero value for human life-- or for any life really, other than her own and her makers. Almost every word out of her mouth is a selfish one and again, not something he'd really want to face after everything that happened last season, is it?
Anyways, for those of you REALLY craving some Pam/Eric, I have a good spoiler for you. ---->
Wondering how Eric made Pam? We’ll finally see how it all happened in season 5.[/quote]
Also, within the Maker/Prodigy thing, she's most likely been following an example set by Eric. [/size] We saw how Bill and Lorena were and Bill was stuck doing things with her, her way despite not liking it and eventually breaking away. I think if she's given some time with 'new' Eric, she'll come around but the less of Sookie during that period, probably the better.[/quote]
That's kinda what I meant by him (Eric) having created such a monster... Godric once did the same to him and I think that he kind of did the same with Pam. He was her "mentor," her maker. Of course she followed his example-- which is why, if Eric had, had a change of heart in the least(as to some of his older ways..) then Pam would just be a painful reminder of that.
I just don't think Pam needs to be coddled by Eric. Nor the other way around.. I think both have well proved they can take care of themselves time and time again-- and truthfully, Sookie has been the one saving their butts most of the time. That whole thing that went down in Dallas. Her figuring out that "long-shadow" was the one stealing from them... and lets not forget the king, because, after all-- was it not Eric's own need for vengeance that nearly led to him roasting in the sun at the end of season 3? But Sookie ALWAYS comes to the rescue... always fixes their problems. So I guess I just don't see why Pam has such a stick up her butt about Sookie-- or why she would be mad that Eric would repay the favor. I think it really just boils down to her being jealous. Which-- personally, I think pink is a better color on Pam.  |
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Post by Slash on Dec 17, 2011 20:12:31 GMT -5
Also, within the Maker/Prodigy thing, she's most likely been following an example set by Eric. [/size] We saw how Bill and Lorena were and Bill was stuck doing things with her, her way despite not liking it and eventually breaking away. I think if she's given some time with 'new' Eric, she'll come around but the less of Sookie during that period, probably the better.[/quote]
That's kinda what I meant by him (Eric) having created such a monster... Godric once did the same to him and I think that he kind of did the same with Pam. He was her "mentor," her maker. Of course she followed his example-- which is why, if Eric had, had a change of heart in the least(as to some of his older ways..) then Pam would just be a painful reminder of that.
I just don't think Pam needs to be coddled by Eric. Nor the other way around.. I think both have well proved they can take care of themselves time and time again-- and truthfully, Sookie has been the one saving their butts most of the time. That whole thing that went down in Dallas. Her figuring out that "long-shadow" was the one stealing from them... and lets not forget the king, because, after all-- was it not Eric's own need for vengeance that nearly led to him roasting in the sun at the end of season 3? But Sookie ALWAYS comes to the rescue... always fixes their problems. So I guess I just don't see why Pam has such a stick up her butt about Sookie-- or why she would be mad that Eric would repay the favor. I think it really just boils down to her being jealous. Which-- personally, I think pink is a better color on Pam.  [/quote]Ah, Godric. Wish he had stayed around longer. It seems after he freed Eric from their bond, Godric did a complete 180. He was tired of all the killing. If anyone could have brought a change on Eric earlier, it would have been him. If that's the case, Eric should just free Pam. Pam just hates Sookie because of the risk involved. If Eric was dating someone less prone to trouble, it'd be fine. But Sookie is a damn lightning rod for trouble (much like Elena). Eric may be able to take care of himself but constantly being in the fire, he's not going to come back one of these times. Then you had the whole Bill BS where Bill was trying to get rid of Eric as well and although they have a long history of trying to off each other, Sookie was adding fuel to that fire. I'm bias in the fact that I *HATE* that little  Sookie just like Pam so that's why I understand/don't have a problem with her directed hate. If I lived in Bon Temps, I'd form a League of Malicious Intent Against Sookie Stackhouse (LOMIASS) with Pam, Russell, and Debbie would have been a shoe-in but Sookie killed her. Pam probably does need to be freed and probably given a girlfriend. I thought there was going to be something with the one stripper they hired at Fangtasia but she cleaned them out and bailed. |
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Post by Princess of Darkness on Dec 17, 2011 21:28:11 GMT -5
That's kinda what I meant by him (Eric) having created such a monster... Godric once did the same to him and I think that he kind of did the same with Pam. He was her "mentor," her maker. Of course she followed his example-- which is why, if Eric had, had a change of heart in the least(as to some of his older ways..) then Pam would just be a painful reminder of that.
I just don't think Pam needs to be coddled by Eric. Nor the other way around.. I think both have well proved they can take care of themselves time and time again-- and truthfully, Sookie has been the one saving their butts most of the time. That whole thing that went down in Dallas. Her figuring out that "long-shadow" was the one stealing from them... and lets not forget the king, because, after all-- was it not Eric's own need for vengeance that nearly led to him roasting in the sun at the end of season 3? But Sookie ALWAYS comes to the rescue... always fixes their problems. So I guess I just don't see why Pam has such a stick up her butt about Sookie-- or why she would be mad that Eric would repay the favor. I think it really just boils down to her being jealous. Which-- personally, I think pink is a better color on Pam. Ah, Godric. Wish he had stayed around longer. It seems after he freed Eric from their bond, Godric did a complete 180. He was tired of all the killing. If anyone could have brought a change on Eric earlier, it would have been him. If that's the case, Eric should just free Pam. Pam just hates Sookie because of the risk involved. If Eric was dating someone less prone to trouble, it'd be fine. But Sookie is a damn lightning rod for trouble (much like Elena). Eric may be able to take care of himself but constantly being in the fire, he's not going to come back one of these times. Then you had the whole Bill BS where Bill was trying to get rid of Eric as well and although they have a long history of trying to off each other, Sookie was adding fuel to that fire. I'm bias in the fact that I *HATE* that little  Sookie just like Pam so that's why I understand/don't have a problem with her directed hate. If I lived in Bon Temps, I'd form a League of Malicious Intent Against Sookie Stackhouse (LOMIASS) with Pam, Russell, and Debbie would have been a shoe-in but Sookie killed her. Pam probably does need to be freed and probably given a girlfriend. I thought there was going to be something with the one stripper they hired at Fangtasia but she cleaned them out and bailed.
I think Pam and Tara would make an interesting match.. although I think Tara is gonna end up with Sam again. (That is, IF she somehow survives... I have a feeling she will.)
Pam is definitely a great character. She's very comical and despite her being such a bitch, you do feel for her.
I think she just gets on my nerves sometimes because I see more reason for Sookie to act like a whiny than I do her.
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Post by Slash on Dec 17, 2011 21:46:44 GMT -5
Ah, Godric. Wish he had stayed around longer. It seems after he freed Eric from their bond, Godric did a complete 180. He was tired of all the killing. If anyone could have brought a change on Eric earlier, it would have been him. If that's the case, Eric should just free Pam. Pam just hates Sookie because of the risk involved. If Eric was dating someone less prone to trouble, it'd be fine. But Sookie is a damn lightning rod for trouble (much like Elena). Eric may be able to take care of himself but constantly being in the fire, he's not going to come back one of these times. Then you had the whole Bill BS where Bill was trying to get rid of Eric as well and although they have a long history of trying to off each other, Sookie was adding fuel to that fire. I'm bias in the fact that I *HATE* that little Sookie just like Pam so that's why I understand/don't have a problem with her directed hate. If I lived in Bon Temps, I'd form a League of Malicious Intent Against Sookie Stackhouse (LOMIASS) with Pam, Russell, and Debbie would have been a shoe-in but Sookie killed her. Pam probably does need to be freed and probably given a girlfriend. I thought there was going to be something with the one stripper they hired at Fangtasia but she cleaned them out and bailed.
I think Pam and Tara would make an interesting match.. although I think Tara is gonna end up with Sam again. (That is, IF she somehow survives... I have a feeling she will.)
Pam is definitely a great character. She's very comical and despite her being such a bitch, you do feel for her.
I think she just gets on my nerves sometimes because I see more reason for Sookie to act like a whiny than I do her.
I loathe the very existence of Tara. Pairing her with Pam, one of my favorites, would be an instant Joy-Killer for me. Same with Sam. I like where Sam is right now with Luna and falling back to a like Tara would be a cruel joke (even though I know they have some connection but Tara has really dug herself a hole). I really do hope her character is gone from the mortal world come S5. Would have been rid of her earlier if she had gone through with the suicide (the one reason I hate Lafayette  ) or Franklin would have gotten his chance (damn Jason ) Sookie is just bossy and has one of those "I'm better/know better than you" attitudes. Like when she was looking for Bill and when someone told her they weren't going to help her, she'd start spouting off about "I know your mother raised you better than that" or "My Grams raised me to know better than that" blah, blah, blah  |
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Post by Princess of Darkness on Dec 17, 2011 22:55:40 GMT -5
I think Pam and Tara would make an interesting match.. although I think Tara is gonna end up with Sam again. (That is, IF she somehow survives... I have a feeling she will.)
Pam is definitely a great character. She's very comical and despite her being such a bitch, you do feel for her.
I think she just gets on my nerves sometimes because I see more reason for Sookie to act like a whiny than I do her.
I loathe the very existence of Tara. Pairing her with Pam, one of my favorites, would be an instant Joy-Killer for me. Same with Sam. I like where Sam is right now with Luna and falling back to a like Tara would be a cruel joke (even though I know they have some connection but Tara has really dug herself a hole). I really do hope her character is gone from the mortal world come S5. Would have been rid of her earlier if she had gone through with the suicide (the one reason I hate Lafayette ) or Franklin would have gotten his chance (damn Jason ) Sookie is just bossy and has one of those "I'm better/know better than you" attitudes. Like when she was looking for Bill and when someone told her they weren't going to help her, she'd start spouting off about "I know your mother raised you better than that" or "My Grams raised me to know better than that" blah, blah, blah
Tara did kind of get on my nerves with the whole hating vampires thing. But she also provided humor and yes, at times, annoyance. I think Tara and Pam would be an interesting pairing simply because they are SO different and from completely different worlds but they still have similarities. I really don't see it happening if indeed Tara is still alive. I can't help but go back to the spoiler about Tara that was given at comic-con. How we hadn't seen the last of Tara & Sam... Idk.. I just think they are gonna pull some crazy s*** to be like "oh wait.. nope, she didn't actually die from the shotgun to the face."
I love Sookie's bossy attitude. As far as the taught me better, she knows better thing-- she was raised right. Nothing wrong with that. And maybe that just comes from the fact that I was raised in the south-- I was taught similar things growing up.
A lot of people don't like those types-- the bossy, know it all. Truthfully though, they can be a help. Sometimes, nobody else is willing to step up to the plate.
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Post by Slash on Dec 18, 2011 0:35:14 GMT -5
I loathe the very existence of Tara. Pairing her with Pam, one of my favorites, would be an instant Joy-Killer for me. Same with Sam. I like where Sam is right now with Luna and falling back to a like Tara would be a cruel joke (even though I know they have some connection but Tara has really dug herself a hole). I really do hope her character is gone from the mortal world come S5. Would have been rid of her earlier if she had gone through with the suicide (the one reason I hate Lafayette ) or Franklin would have gotten his chance (damn Jason ) Sookie is just bossy and has one of those "I'm better/know better than you" attitudes. Like when she was looking for Bill and when someone told her they weren't going to help her, she'd start spouting off about "I know your mother raised you better than that" or "My Grams raised me to know better than that" blah, blah, blah
Tara did kind of get on my nerves with the whole hating vampires thing. But she also provided humor and yes, at times, annoyance. I think Tara and Pam would be an interesting pairing simply because they are SO different and from completely different worlds but they still have similarities. I really don't see it happening if indeed Tara is still alive. I can't help but go back to the spoiler about Tara that was given at comic-con. How we hadn't seen the last of Tara & Sam... Idk.. I just think they are gonna pull some crazy s*** to be like "oh wait.. nope, she didn't actually die from the shotgun to the face." 
I love Sookie's bossy attitude. As far as the taught me better, she knows better thing-- she was raised right. Nothing wrong with that. And maybe that just comes from the fact that I was raised in the south-- I was taught similar things growing up.
A lot of people don't like those types-- the bossy, know it all. Truthfully though, they can be a help. Sometimes, nobody else is willing to step up to the plate.
The problem with Tara & Sam is that it would mean he'd have *ANOTHER* falling out with another woman. He killed one of past girlfriends (who was played by Lexi), got duped by another (the waitress he hired on who was also a shifter), didn't get anywhere with Tara the first time around and now, he's got something that *WORKS*. I don't want to see the Writers say "Oh, lets try Tara again" just because they need to do something with her. She has her girlfriend anyways. You were taught to tell people you know they were raised better or that someone taught you better than them? That's my whole problem with Sookie's attitude and presentation. She doesn't get her way with people she knows, she starts spouting that 'crap'. "I know Grams raised better than that Jason Stackhouse." " , I already told you I'm not helping you track down Vampire Bill who said he was done with you." And I can deal with 'bossy'. It's just shows have a harder time of handling them because the formula/combination Writers go with comes off more annoying than anything with me. It's usually Bossy/I'm doing it anyways + Short-sightedness that annoys me most. They get bossy with wanting to get someone back and fail to see the risk they're putting others in or asking of others. They go in head first and by action, others try and step in to help/protect them because of the irrationality and it results in said person instead putting themselves in the way of the bullet because they don't want to see said asshat get hurt. None of this matters in the grand scheme of things cause the show(s) is going to continue doing the same thing. As a viewer, I just have to ignore/pay no nevermind to such 'leads' and instead enjoy the supporting cast and the world/story itself that much more. |
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Post by Princess of Darkness on Dec 18, 2011 5:44:03 GMT -5
Tara did kind of get on my nerves with the whole hating vampires thing. But she also provided humor and yes, at times, annoyance. I think Tara and Pam would be an interesting pairing simply because they are SO different and from completely different worlds but they still have similarities. I really don't see it happening if indeed Tara is still alive. I can't help but go back to the spoiler about Tara that was given at comic-con. How we hadn't seen the last of Tara & Sam... Idk.. I just think they are gonna pull some crazy s*** to be like "oh wait.. nope, she didn't actually die from the shotgun to the face."
I love Sookie's bossy attitude. As far as the taught me better, she knows better thing-- she was raised right. Nothing wrong with that. And maybe that just comes from the fact that I was raised in the south-- I was taught similar things growing up.
A lot of people don't like those types-- the bossy, know it all. Truthfully though, they can be a help. Sometimes, nobody else is willing to step up to the plate.
The problem with Tara & Sam is that it would mean he'd have *ANOTHER* falling out with another woman. He killed one of past girlfriends (who was played by Lexi), got duped by another (the waitress he hired on who was also a shifter), didn't get anywhere with Tara the first time around and now, he's got something that *WORKS*. I don't want to see the Writers say "Oh, lets try Tara again" just because they need to do something with her. She has her girlfriend anyways. You were taught to tell people you know they were raised better or that someone taught you better than them? That's my whole problem with Sookie's attitude and presentation. She doesn't get her way with people she knows, she starts spouting that 'crap'. "I know Grams raised better than that Jason Stackhouse." " , I already told you I'm not helping you track down Vampire Bill who said he was done with you." And I can deal with 'bossy'. It's just shows have a harder time of handling them because the formula/combination Writers go with comes off more annoying than anything with me. It's usually Bossy/I'm doing it anyways + Short-sightedness that annoys me most. They get bossy with wanting to get someone back and fail to see the risk they're putting others in or asking of others. They go in head first and by action, others try and step in to help/protect them because of the irrationality and it results in said person instead putting themselves in the way of the bullet because they don't want to see said asshat get hurt. None of this matters in the grand scheme of things cause the show(s) is going to continue doing the same thing. As a viewer, I just have to ignore/pay no nevermind to such 'leads' and instead enjoy the supporting cast and the world/story itself that much more.
I wasn't taught that-- no. But I mean, I think being that Sookie can hear everyone's thoughts-- you already have to cut her slack. She hears peoples deepest, darkest, horrible things. She was raised right obviously-- she stays away from drugs for the most part, works hard, didn't have sex until Bill and obviously had more value for herself than just giving it away. (I'm not saying doing the opposite makes you a bad person, just that Sookie has made a lot of RIGHT decisions.) She's also very sweet & respectful to those who deserve it. (An example being when she read Hoyt's thoughts in S01 and gave him a kiss because his thoughts were just really sweet and he was the only one thinking about Dawn in a good way after she died. Sookie was also very respectful of her grandmother before she died as well.)
I feel that Sookie-- in general, holds herself to a higher standard than most people, and because of that, expects it from others. Honestly, I feel there is nothing wrong with that. In fact, I feel that when you expect the best of people-- they often try harder to meet that standard than with someone who just decided to write them off as only being capable of their worst side.
Forgive me, I can't help but feel like you just have a vendetta for lead females.
Maybe that's why you seem to hate Sookie/Elena with such a passion?
Or maybe you secretly have the hots for 'em both. I mean, both Anna Paquin & Nina Dobrev are gorgeous women. 
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Post by Slash on Dec 18, 2011 7:25:49 GMT -5
The problem with Tara & Sam is that it would mean he'd have *ANOTHER* falling out with another woman. He killed one of past girlfriends (who was played by Lexi), got duped by another (the waitress he hired on who was also a shifter), didn't get anywhere with Tara the first time around and now, he's got something that *WORKS*. I don't want to see the Writers say "Oh, lets try Tara again" just because they need to do something with her. She has her girlfriend anyways. You were taught to tell people you know they were raised better or that someone taught you better than them? That's my whole problem with Sookie's attitude and presentation. She doesn't get her way with people she knows, she starts spouting that 'crap'. "I know Grams raised better than that Jason Stackhouse." " , I already told you I'm not helping you track down Vampire Bill who said he was done with you." And I can deal with 'bossy'. It's just shows have a harder time of handling them because the formula/combination Writers go with comes off more annoying than anything with me. It's usually Bossy/I'm doing it anyways + Short-sightedness that annoys me most. They get bossy with wanting to get someone back and fail to see the risk they're putting others in or asking of others. They go in head first and by action, others try and step in to help/protect them because of the irrationality and it results in said person instead putting themselves in the way of the bullet because they don't want to see said asshat get hurt. None of this matters in the grand scheme of things cause the show(s) is going to continue doing the same thing. As a viewer, I just have to ignore/pay no nevermind to such 'leads' and instead enjoy the supporting cast and the world/story itself that much more.
I wasn't taught that-- no. But I mean, I think being that Sookie can hear everyone's thoughts-- you already have to cut her slack. She hears peoples deepest, darkest, horrible things. She was raised right obviously-- she stays away from drugs for the most part, works hard, didn't have sex until Bill and obviously had more value for herself than just giving it away. (I'm not saying doing the opposite makes you a bad person, just that Sookie has made a lot of RIGHT decisions.) She's also very sweet & respectful to those who deserve it. (An example being when she read Hoyt's thoughts in S01 and gave him a kiss because his thoughts were just really sweet and he was the only one thinking about Dawn in a good way after she died. Sookie was also very respectful of her grandmother before she died as well.)
I feel that Sookie-- in general, holds herself to a higher standard than most people, and because of that, expects it from others. Honestly, I feel there is nothing wrong with that. In fact, I feel that when you expect the best of people-- they often try harder to meet that standard than with someone who just decided to write them off as only being capable of their worst side.
Forgive me, I can't help but feel like you just have a vendetta for lead females.
Maybe that's why you seem to hate Sookie/Elena with such a passion?
Or maybe you secretly have the hots for 'em both. I mean, both Anna Paquin & Nina Dobrev are gorgeous women. 
I've actually kind of forgotten she can read thoughts With that said, I now do think it puts her in an interesting position to be one who expects good out of people and then can actually 'see' it without 'seeing' it cause she can read their thoughts to look behind whatever front they have. Not gonna lie, reading over my posts, it does seem like I have it out for some of them All lead females don't bother me. Buffy (BTVS), Bo (LG), Allison (TW), etc. are fine in my book and have very enjoyable qualities that make them standout/great as lead females (besides the looks) but there is just something about the breed of Elena, Sookie and Cassie that gets at me and when I post about them, it really seeps through the posts (I'm currently going at Elena in the Rebekah part of the board funny enough)  There is just something about them that makes them glaringly 'bad' to me compared to their female co-stars (Bonnie, Caroline, Jessica, Pam, Faye, Diana, Melissa, etc.) as characters but I do chalk it up to the way they're written at times. I do think the latter 3 kind of being 'shoved' to the front/down your throat is one of the reasons I can't seem to like them. Too much effort gone into how to make them special/above everyone else. I don't know what it is though As for having the hots, it's weird. I can't be bothered by Nina as Elena but as Katherine, there is some appeal. I think it might be the attitude and mannerisms she has as that character that makes her more attractive to me. It's the damnedest thing. |
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Post by Princess of Darkness on Dec 19, 2011 1:42:40 GMT -5
I wasn't taught that-- no. But I mean, I think being that Sookie can hear everyone's thoughts-- you already have to cut her slack. She hears peoples deepest, darkest, horrible things. She was raised right obviously-- she stays away from drugs for the most part, works hard, didn't have sex until Bill and obviously had more value for herself than just giving it away. (I'm not saying doing the opposite makes you a bad person, just that Sookie has made a lot of RIGHT decisions.) She's also very sweet & respectful to those who deserve it. (An example being when she read Hoyt's thoughts in S01 and gave him a kiss because his thoughts were just really sweet and he was the only one thinking about Dawn in a good way after she died. Sookie was also very respectful of her grandmother before she died as well.)
I feel that Sookie-- in general, holds herself to a higher standard than most people, and because of that, expects it from others. Honestly, I feel there is nothing wrong with that. In fact, I feel that when you expect the best of people-- they often try harder to meet that standard than with someone who just decided to write them off as only being capable of their worst side.
Forgive me, I can't help but feel like you just have a vendetta for lead females.
Maybe that's why you seem to hate Sookie/Elena with such a passion?
Or maybe you secretly have the hots for 'em both. I mean, both Anna Paquin & Nina Dobrev are gorgeous women.
I've actually kind of forgotten she can read thoughts With that said, I now do think it puts her in an interesting position to be one who expects good out of people and then can actually 'see' it without 'seeing' it cause she can read their thoughts to look behind whatever front they have. Not gonna lie, reading over my posts, it does seem like I have it out for some of them All lead females don't bother me. Buffy (BTVS), Bo (LG), Allison (TW), etc. are fine in my book and have very enjoyable qualities that make them standout/great as lead females (besides the looks) but there is just something about the breed of Elena, Sookie and Cassie that gets at me and when I post about them, it really seeps through the posts (I'm currently going at Elena in the Rebekah part of the board funny enough) There is just something about them that makes them glaringly 'bad' to me compared to their female co-stars (Bonnie, Caroline, Jessica, Pam, Faye, Diana, Melissa, etc.) as characters but I do chalk it up to the way they're written at times. I do think the latter 3 kind of being 'shoved' to the front/down your throat is one of the reasons I can't seem to like them. Too much effort gone into how to make them special/above everyone else. I don't know what it is though As for having the hots, it's weird. I can't be bothered by Nina as Elena but as Katherine, there is some appeal. I think it might be the attitude and mannerisms she has as that character that makes her more attractive to me. It's the damnedest thing.
Well, I don't know who Bo is, but Allison is maybe the lead female-- but not so much in the sense that Buffy, Elena, Cassie, or Sookie are.. which, arguably, they are the main character of each story. But in Teen Wolf, I'd say Scott is the main character.
Buffy is simply a bad ass. How could anyone NOT like her?
I don't know. I usually enjoy (or at least root for,) the main female lead the most-- but in TVD, I love Caroline, and in True Blood, I love Jessica as well. We just have far different tastes, I guess..
As far as Elena and Katherine- I get what you mean. Katherine is definitely sexier. I love Katherine, and I love Elena. I think both have qualities about them that make them equally attractive, just in different ways.
In TSC, I think ALL of the women are good looking. Also in different ways. Cassie is a bit more conservative, Faye is in-your-face sexy, Diana and Melissa are both somewhere in between. The only thing that bothers me about Cassie is how young she looks in comparison to the rest of the cast. I know they are supposed to be young-- but none of the others look it so, idk...
I still think Cassie is pretty, but she does pale in comparison to Faye. That actress is gorgeous, but Faye as a character can be a pain-in-the-ass at times and so it makes her less appealing. (Still her.)
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Post by Slash on Dec 19, 2011 3:24:00 GMT -5
Well, I don't know who Bo is, but Allison is maybe the lead female-- but not so much in the sense that Buffy, Elena, Cassie, or Sookie are.. which, arguably, they are the main character of each story. But in Teen Wolf, I'd say Scott is the main character.
Buffy is simply a bad ass. How could anyone NOT like her?
I don't know. I usually enjoy (or at least root for,) the main female lead the most-- but in TVD, I love Caroline, and in True Blood, I love Jessica as well. We just have far different tastes, I guess..
As far as Elena and Katherine- I get what you mean. Katherine is definitely sexier. I love Katherine, and I love Elena. I think both have qualities about them that make them equally attractive, just in different ways.
In TSC, I think ALL of the women are good looking. Also in different ways. Cassie is a bit more conservative, Faye is in-your-face sexy, Diana and Melissa are both somewhere in between. The only thing that bothers me about Cassie is how young she looks in comparison to the rest of the cast. I know they are supposed to be young-- but none of the others look it so, idk...
I still think Cassie is pretty, but she does pale in comparison to Faye. That actress is gorgeous, but Faye as a character can be a pain-in-the-ass at times and so it makes her less appealing. (Still her.)
Bo the Succubus (Anna Silk):  She's the lead and special within the story but her attitude, her best friend Kenzi and her relationship status (in the gutter) is probably what makes her so enjoyable with those same qualities (she doesn't want all the crap that's going on but she wants to help people at the same time, the 2 love interests she has are currently taken so she's looking from afar and going at it alone while her best friend just got one of her own). As for Allison, I see what you mean. It's kind of a 'reverse' of Elena, whereas Allison would be more like Stefan/Damon in the story (central) but not the main lead which is Scott (it makes sense but it doesn't. Think about it ). Not exactly in the same boat as the others mentioned who do have the shows focused mainly on them or they're integral to the arcs going on. In TSC, Cassie just has this stupid look on her face when she finds out something. I'll see if I can find a screen of that 'look'. I do think the 'conservative' thing is also pretty meh for her but someone has to play that role. Not saying she's not a looker but she does fall at the bottom of the list compared to her group members (and now that you mention it, she does look younger than everyone else). Faye, Diana and Melissa getting brushed off by the other guys (although they've dated the guys) for Cassie is just mind boggling to me Faye annoyed me the first time I watched the pilot but after watching it again, she kind of grew on me and it's been uphill since. But yes, Melissa and Diana need more screen time, albeit away from the Adam/Nick stuff. I liked seeing them hanging out together without the others so more of that would be great. Where is this conversation going now? This is the True Blood thread, right? |
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Post by delena4eva on Dec 19, 2011 16:56:24 GMT -5
 That stupid look? LoL I don't like her facial expressions either. |
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There is just something about them that makes them glaringly 'bad' to me compared to their female co-stars (Bonnie, Caroline, Jessica, Pam, Faye, Diana, Melissa, etc.) as characters but I do chalk it up to the way they're written at times. I do think the latter 3 kind of being 'shoved' to the front/down your throat is one of the reasons I can't seem to like them. Too much effort gone into how to make them special/above everyone else.
