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Post by pixiestyx on Sept 3, 2012 16:06:32 GMT -5
I'm annoyed with how Russell died. I was expecting a more epic death than what he got. I'm glad that Eric got his revenge...but it was a bit anti-climatic. Now, Sam-as-a-fly flying into the vampire's mouth and then shifting and killing her from the inside out? EPIC. But supremely gross. Can I just say that I hate how vampires die in this world? I say EWWWWW every time. Why isn't Beel dead dead dead??? I was so happy for the 2 seconds he was dead. Do not want 'Billith". Can I just say how awesome Lafayette was through this entire episode? I loved him through the fairy birth scene. Actually, all of Lafayette. PLEASE KEEP THIS LAYFAYETTE FOR S6. I have missed him so, so much. I'm already bored with Jason. Did they not do this same thing in S2? Poor Luna. I don't think she's going to last long. I guess Warlow will factor in big next year. Along with Billith. It will be interesting, since Alan Ball won't be running the show next season.
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Post by Slash on Sept 3, 2012 20:34:07 GMT -5
Jason just keeps flip flopping or he has no direction at all. I like him but this "I hate supes", then back to 'normal' Jason thing is getting old. He was Anti-Vampire and then he's in love with Crystal & Jessica after that and now he's back to hating Vampires because of what one did to his parents (and all the crap that comes with them). It's like they don't really know how to progress his character beyond going back to the hate thing with him.
As for Russell, I think it's the best they could come up with. Granted Witches and possibly Demons can deal with Vampires but so far, they seem to be top of the freaking food chain in TVD. Russell on a sheer power scale wasn't going to come down easily. He was the oldest Vampire that was on the show at that point. He said he could take on all the remaining Authority members and I think Eric was the next eldest.
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Post by pixiestyx on Sept 4, 2012 19:31:59 GMT -5
It's true, they really don't know what to do with Jason, which is a shame since I mostly like him.
I get what you're saying about Russell, but I still think he deserved a better death.
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Post by Slash on Sept 4, 2012 20:22:15 GMT -5
I do too but I think it's poor writing on their part. They're bringing in Lilith but they already had Russell awakened so what were they going to do? Try and write next season around Russell on a fae hunt and then Lilith trying to take over mankind? I just think it's a poor setup that they wrote themselves into and the best they came up with in a meeting is having Russell distracted so Eric can swoop in out of nowhere for a quick kill (I'm assuming he homed in on Sookie in distress...or followed the light show since him and Norah took off flying).
Honestly, I would have preferred to have seen Russell step up to Lilith and get shut down but I know people like to see Eric getting his vengeance. He's been after it for how long now? Warlow may be the next trump card as far as the Vampire power scale goes but that's just an assumption. There is a deleted scene on Youtube (will have to find it) from the finale where after Sookie & Eric stay behind, we see the rest of them come out of the elevator and Jason says "I'm coming for you Warlow" and Norah, standing behind him replies, "Warlow? What do you know about Warlow?" So she knows who it is. Some ancient Vampire or maybe another 'biblical Vampire' figure like Lilith which is why I think he'll be a key for them next season against Lilith.
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Post by pixiestyx on Sept 4, 2012 21:51:35 GMT -5
I like that Eric got his vengeance and I realize that this was probably the only way that he could have killed Russell. I'm still just let down by it.
I saw that scene and I am baffled as to why it was not in the episode. It seems pretty important as it helps with the set up for next season.
I don't know how Warlow and Billith will fit together next season or if they will even be against each other.
As for next season:
-- Please no more Terry storylines. I love him, but he is better as a crazy guy on the side. A little Terry goes a long way -- Figure out what to do with Jason -- I like Nora, so more Nora + Eric -- Eric and Sookie scenes as long as Eric is bad ass Eric and not lovey dovey childlike Eric -- Alcide...hmm...maybe he'll become hooked on V? Or his dad will try to get control of the pack -- Sam/Luna/Emma...well I think Luna is going to die so I don't know what Sam will do next season, unless Luna leave Emma with Sam -- Andy and his fae children, well this could be funny --Jess - I think alot could be done with Jess/Tara/Pam kinda an odd trio but it could work --MORE SASSY LAFAYETTE
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Post by Slash on Sept 4, 2012 22:56:14 GMT -5
I also realized like TVD, this show doesn't have a fight choreographer. I'd like to see a decent fight in these shows (Teen Wolf tries and I think they do a fair enough job). It's always a 'quick death' in these shows in place of fights. Like the Alcide fight in the finale. Wasn't even a fight. Alcide is juiced, takes down JD and pummels him before snapping his neck. Eh...-_- Terry...I don't so much mind if he gets another story but maybe something more entertaining? I like that we got another creature out of his storyline but he seems to work better as a supporting character overall. He really shines when paired up with Arlene or Terry or even Sam. Patrick didn't help his storyline/was a downer. Yes, do something with Jason. Stop putting him in these ruts. Is he going forward with Jessica? What the hell happened to his WerePanther storyline? etc.. Something other than these damn hate trips. Nora should stick around. I figure since she knows about Warlow, she'll be a big help and I'm interested in more scenes of Eric holding her back from attacking Sookie Really hoping we don't have to deal with another 'V Addict' storyline. I don't want that for Alcide. I can see him trying to reform the pack though after Marcus & JD's reigns. His dad will probably join up and get a position back but we'll probably also find out what happened actually with the old pack. I don't want Luna to die Sam gets something good and it always blows up in his face. If she does die, Emma will probably go to her grandmother who will link into Alcide's storyline/character so we'll see her through that. Sam could probably also have occasional crossovers with Alcide (I did like the storyline we got with them over Tommy's death). Andy is most likely going to be hilarious next season but I'm also pulling for him in things working out with Holly. Maurella is gone so she's not actually any contest to Holly but the circumstances are still probably weighing on her. Jessica/Pam/Tara is an odd pairing but from what little we've gotten, it oddly works. Pam & Tara as lovers (awkward but it does wonders for Tara's character) and Jessica & Tara as budding friends. If they change Lafayette again, I'm going to be pissed. I know they'll do something though cause they'll have to revisit the Brujo/Jesus thing eventually cause it tried to kill Sookie.
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Post by pixiestyx on Sept 6, 2012 19:46:03 GMT -5
Lafayette just got his mojo back. I don't want him to lose it again. Even though I still liked him as sad, not as sassy Lafayette, I will be really upset if they go back to how he was S2-4.
Lafayette is basically my favourite character, along with Eric and Pam.
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Post by madforjoseph on Mar 15, 2013 16:10:27 GMT -5
really cant wait for season 5 too start miss my eric and sookie dosis so much
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Post by Slash on Jul 8, 2013 0:20:41 GMT -5
Thought I'd bump this after tonight's episode.
Ben is Warlow. Didn't know that Warlow was a Hybrid (Fairy & Vampire) and I didn't make the connection that Ben was Warlow until after the Jason/Gramps confrontation with him (despite Sookie coming to the conclusion herself and seeing the blood glow like before). Older than the Fairy King (who has just been cast into the dimension Warlow was locked in) and he was Lilith's progenies making him one of the oldest Vampires (wikia says 5,500 years old making him the oldest now outside of Lilith but I think because she's dead, the titles is his). So his age works in his favor for both halves of his species I'd assume. Not to forget, he's a daywalker too.
Now I'm interested in how this whole Bill/Lilith-Warlow thing is going to work out. Lilith seems focused on preserving Vampires against humans whereas Warlow is out for Sookie but if both entities were to come into contact with one another, would focus shift? And where does Bill stand on the power scale with Lilith's gifts? Can he take Warlow?
Also wondering how he'll factor in going forward. He seems...kind of level headed as far as I can tell so if need be, can he be reasoned with to help out Sookie's Vampire friends or will the whole Lilith-Warlow thing keep that from happening (since Bill is working to that end too and outside of the Vampire Bible, Lilith & Warlow have made no mention of one another present day)?
Kind of disappointed in what happened with Jessica. She was worried about Bill and she was the one who slipped, killing all 4 of the faeries who Andy is out looking for (and just made the connection that Vampires may be involved so I half expect him to stumble on his girls if he's heading to Bill's which is a shame; Andy calls him kin and Bill positioned to grab the girls and for the most part, Bill seemed to be taking care with them in only taking a little blood from them and without really coming into contact with it himself).
Also didn't know that Eric has only sired 2 of his own, the 2nd being the Governor's daughter tonight. Pam was his first and only (so now she has a sister). Really not liking this whole Governor/Concentration Camp thing. Norah was captured, Tara rushing off probably gave away Pam so now she's caught and because of the Governor's daughter's slip up, she's being taken away too. I'm assuming with the vision, if Andy stumbles on Bill's place, Jessica will be taken too.
Alcide needs to get Ricki (sp?) in check, and for that matter, he needs to really lock down on his pack. She's really pushing the 'challenge' barrier these past few episodes with him and he lost control of them in the last episode when they killed the stupid group who thought it was wise to just waltz on in there spewing their crap.
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Post by Doppelgänger on Jul 8, 2013 13:57:44 GMT -5
Me neither, I was a bit slow on the Warlow connection until the confrontation and then I thought Sookie only figured out that he was a vampire, not that he was Warlow.
I guess the vampires all do have to get captured in order to fulfill Bill's premonition that they would all die. I'm not sure if the faery girls are all dead or not. I guess we'll see.
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Post by Slash on Jul 8, 2013 18:46:51 GMT -5
Yeah, don't know why I was slow on the Warlow thing. Ben's blood glowed just like Warlow's did from the fairy club but I just assumed that meant Ben was 'kin' to Warlow if anything. Maybe a fairy that Warlow had turned, making him Warlow's offspring. I'm guessing him laying on the side of the road was from being hurt/exhausted from coming through the portal, not a Vampire attack.
I'm hoping Andy's girls aren't dead. Love Andy and he did seem to be getting a better handle on the girls so I don't want to see him breakdown over losing them or even dealing with whatshername coming back and asking what happened to her girls. I'd be nice if Bill could save them if they're on the edge.
Something that has been bothering me is Eric's making of another Vampire. Pam has been his one and only progeny until the Governor's daughter and it's a task he doesn't take lightly...yet, he turns the Governor's daughter and sends her off her first night with no training and she slips up trying to attack her father. I know Eric sent her try and change his mind but either he planned on her slipping up and killing him or he was just pressured by time =\
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Post by Doppelgänger on Jul 8, 2013 20:19:46 GMT -5
Whatshername could have died with the attack on the faeries, I think. I don't think they made it clear enough so we could have figured it out that easily that he was Warlow. I expected some gnarled old man but damn I should have known after Godric, I guess.
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Post by Doppelgänger on Jul 8, 2013 20:21:50 GMT -5
I knew Pam was Eric's only progeny and so I think that it will bother him that he sent the gov's daughter off to the slaughter and I think THAT is why he will end up being caught and maybe Pam as well since the girl is going to the camp now. He doesn't take his responsibility as maker lightly since he respected Godric so much as his maker.
I don't think the faeries can be dead cause Bill has to save the day, unless he is able to use Sookie's blood if they are dead, which is possible if he were to explain everything to her, but she's not real open to anything at the moment. Maybe Eric's (and everyone else's) life being on the line will change that.
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Post by Slash on Jul 10, 2013 0:20:39 GMT -5
Yeah, expected Warlow to be older given what little we had.
And as for Sookie getting involved with Bill if he comes knocking, she's currently in the company of Warlow so I guess if their is some confrontation between Lilith's champion and him, it would happen then, if either senses who the other is.
Warlow has me confused though. He slaughtered the faeries at the club but seems to have a soft spot for the Stackhouse family. He's sparred Jason and even 'slipped up' when he healed him (leaving the blood behind) and he's done the same for Grandpa Stachouse twice (as a kid and not outright killing him now). He seems to be taking his time with Sookie so...I'm at a loss as to what he's actually doing or wants with her besides her being promised to him by contract. This is why I'm kind of interested to see where he falls with this war on Vampires. He turned on/killed Lilith but would he take up this cause alongside Bill and Sookie if she gets involved?
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Post by Doppelgänger on Jul 10, 2013 8:25:18 GMT -5
It is a little odd given that he killed their parents so not all Stackhouse's escaped death by his hand. I wonder what he really wants with Sookie as well. I guess it's possible he just didn't care until he met her and she was kind to him when nobody else was, as he put it. Perhaps she will be the reason that his plans change. I guess we'll see.
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