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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2016 9:42:29 GMT -5
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salvachester asked:
RANT TIME! I know you're not really watching TVD, but last night's episode (thanks Canada for the earlier airing) confirmed to me that BoBe doesn't feel remorse for Elena's state, nor she ever considers her, or Care, her best friends anymore. I have yet to see her cry, or be devastated over Elena, but HEY, yes, let's cry and guilt trip Damon for wanting to desiccate himself for the next 60 years. "BWAAH, you hurt my feelings!" *rolls eyes*
and i know, it pisses me off, she doesn’t even care about Elena whatsoever, she only cares about herself. and EXACTLY if the roles were reversed elena would drown herself in guilt
i loved their friendship, this honestly makes me upset
Exactly had the situation been reversed, Elena would be feeling such an immense regret just like what happened when Stefan was under the water. Elena would be guilt tripped at every turn. And of course Bonnie fans would be calling Elena a horrible friend who needed to die if Elena went on about her life all nonchalantly not giving two F's for Bonnie and saying how Bonnie's boyfriend was the person she cared about most in the world and was being catty with him about wanting to wait for Bonnie to wake up. Even when Bonnie was in the prison world and Elena was doing her best to get Bonnie back, the anti fans/Bonnie stans still talked about how horrible a friend Elena was and how she wasn't doing enough. Here Bonnie has literally not made a single mention of Elena since her sacrifice. LOL. This fandom is full of so many hypocrites.
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Post by Doppelgänger on Apr 15, 2016 11:44:59 GMT -5
widowelena salvachester asked:
RANT TIME! I know you're not really watching TVD, but last night's episode (thanks Canada for the earlier airing) confirmed to me that BoBe doesn't feel remorse for Elena's state, nor she ever considers her, or Care, her best friends anymore. I have yet to see her cry, or be devastated over Elena, but HEY, yes, let's cry and guilt trip Damon for wanting to desiccate himself for the next 60 years. "BWAAH, you hurt my feelings!" *rolls eyes*
and i know, it pisses me off, she doesn’t even care about Elena whatsoever, she only cares about herself. and EXACTLY if the roles were reversed elena would drown herself in guilt
i loved their friendship, this honestly makes me upset
Exactly had the situation been reversed, Elena would be feeling such an immense regret just like what happened when Stefan was under the water. Elena would be guilt tripped at every turn. And of course Bonnie fans would be calling Elena a horrible friend who needed to die if Elena went on about her life all nonchalantly not giving two F's for Bonnie and saying how Bonnie's boyfriend was the person she cared about most in the world and was being catty with him about wanting to wait for Bonnie to wake up. Even when Bonnie was in the prison world and Elena was doing her best to get Bonnie back, the anti fans/Bonnie stans still talked about how horrible a friend Elena was and how she wasn't doing enough. Here Bonnie has literally not made a single mention of Elena since her sacrifice. LOL. This fandom is full of so many hypocrites. Oh yes Bonnie mentioned Elena and how she would be A-OK with Damon moving on and sleeping with Krystal with a K and anyone else he feels like... What she's not OK with is Damon NOT moving on and wanting to desiccate with Elena because that would mean she's out of luck with Damon. C'mon it's really starting to look like Bonnie has a thing for Damon. I just can't deny it anymore. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2016 11:53:52 GMT -5
widowelena salvachester asked:
RANT TIME! I know you're not really watching TVD, but last night's episode (thanks Canada for the earlier airing) confirmed to me that BoBe doesn't feel remorse for Elena's state, nor she ever considers her, or Care, her best friends anymore. I have yet to see her cry, or be devastated over Elena, but HEY, yes, let's cry and guilt trip Damon for wanting to desiccate himself for the next 60 years. "BWAAH, you hurt my feelings!" *rolls eyes*
and i know, it pisses me off, she doesn’t even care about Elena whatsoever, she only cares about herself. and EXACTLY if the roles were reversed elena would drown herself in guilt
i loved their friendship, this honestly makes me upset
Exactly had the situation been reversed, Elena would be feeling such an immense regret just like what happened when Stefan was under the water. Elena would be guilt tripped at every turn. And of course Bonnie fans would be calling Elena a horrible friend who needed to die if Elena went on about her life all nonchalantly not giving two F's for Bonnie and saying how Bonnie's boyfriend was the person she cared about most in the world and was being catty with him about wanting to wait for Bonnie to wake up. Even when Bonnie was in the prison world and Elena was doing her best to get Bonnie back, the anti fans/Bonnie stans still talked about how horrible a friend Elena was and how she wasn't doing enough. Here Bonnie has literally not made a single mention of Elena since her sacrifice. LOL. This fandom is full of so many hypocrites. Oh yes Bonnie mentioned Elena and how she would be A-OK with Damon moving on and sleeping with Krystal with a K and anyone else he feels like... What she's not OK with is Damon NOT moving on and wanting to desiccate with Elena because that would mean she's out of luck with Damon. C'mon it's really starting to look like Bonnie has a thing for Damon. I just can't deny it anymore. Yeah that could be in the works and she always has the books to fall on, so making Bonnie have a crush on/love Damon won't be too out of the ordinary. Though I think just about everyone will call BS on Damon feeling anything back. I don't see anyone but the minority of BDs and bitter SEs who would put up with that. JP will be threading very lightly as far as that is concerned considering the lengths she went the Krystal situation. |
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Post by Doppelgänger on Apr 15, 2016 12:01:58 GMT -5
Oh yes Bonnie mentioned Elena and how she would be A-OK with Damon moving on and sleeping with Krystal with a K and anyone else he feels like... What she's not OK with is Damon NOT moving on and wanting to desiccate with Elena because that would mean she's out of luck with Damon. C'mon it's really starting to look like Bonnie has a thing for Damon. I just can't deny it anymore. Yeah that could be in the works and she always has the books to fall on, so making Bonnie have a crush on/love Damon won't be too out of the ordinary. Though I think just about everyone will call BS on Damon feeling anything back. I don't see anyone but the minority of BDs and bitter SEs who would put up with that. JP will be threading very lightly as far as that is concerned considering the lengths she went the Krystal situation. I agree but I don't trust JP one bit NOT to do something different than the books and she doesn't even know what they say because she mentioned that they had a relationship in the books and they never did! The BDs filled her head with the idea that they did and she never read it for herself I think. But I mean in the books nobody had sex, period, so they've already gone farther than the books ever did. The fact remains that book BD was a damn crush from Bonnie's side and nothing more. Damon ends up with Elena and never anyone else. Krystal with a K was already a deviation on anything I think Damon in love with Elena would have done. |
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Post by Somerhaldered on Apr 15, 2016 23:01:53 GMT -5
widowelena salvachester asked:
RANT TIME! I know you're not really watching TVD, but last night's episode (thanks Canada for the earlier airing) confirmed to me that BoBe doesn't feel remorse for Elena's state, nor she ever considers her, or Care, her best friends anymore. I have yet to see her cry, or be devastated over Elena, but HEY, yes, let's cry and guilt trip Damon for wanting to desiccate himself for the next 60 years. "BWAAH, you hurt my feelings!" *rolls eyes*
and i know, it pisses me off, she doesn’t even care about Elena whatsoever, she only cares about herself. and EXACTLY if the roles were reversed elena would drown herself in guilt
i loved their friendship, this honestly makes me upset
Exactly had the situation been reversed, Elena would be feeling such an immense regret just like what happened when Stefan was under the water. Elena would be guilt tripped at every turn. And of course Bonnie fans would be calling Elena a horrible friend who needed to die if Elena went on about her life all nonchalantly not giving two F's for Bonnie and saying how Bonnie's boyfriend was the person she cared about most in the world and was being catty with him about wanting to wait for Bonnie to wake up. Even when Bonnie was in the prison world and Elena was doing her best to get Bonnie back, the anti fans/Bonnie stans still talked about how horrible a friend Elena was and how she wasn't doing enough. Here Bonnie has literally not made a single mention of Elena since her sacrifice. LOL. This fandom is full of so many hypocrites. OMG, I think you're right - aside from Bon telling Damon that Elena wanted him to live his life, I don't think she's mentioned anything else about her. She may have said her name during the 3-second pause fight with Damon, but nothing in relation to how she misses her too or anything. Some friend! |
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Post by vampirelust on Apr 24, 2016 16:43:09 GMT -5
I've been reading for a while from Bonnie fans that Delena was bad because it meant Elena had to change to be with Damon but Bonnie would just need to be herself.
I beg to differ, Elena fell in love and justified bad vamp behaviour when she was human and a vampire, it's who she was, she never let the bad inside Stefan or Damon define her overall opinion about them or others for that matter, but Bonnie hated vampires with the fire of a thousand suns.
Bonnie hated vamps so much that she distanced herself from Elena because of her relationship with Stefan, and rejected Caroline outright when she became a vampire.
Bonnie would never justify the vamp behaviour, she was judgy as hell, but her morality has shifted somewhat since.
This last episode she was judging Damon for killing Beau, a vampire who was feeding on a roomfull of innocent humans. Since when did Bonnie not care about humans? Bonnie is darker than Elena ever was, she has changed and bent her morals out of shape to the point that she is now in a relationship with a vampire (enzo) that would still feed and kill humans in a heartbeat because he is a vampire.
Bonnie up until recently was advocating for every decision Damon was making, including sleeping around. Bonnie would not forgive Jeremy for just kissing a dead ex girlfriend, but she champions Damon sleeping around? Like I said, Bonnie has fundamentally changed personality and switched out her moral compass to enable her relationship with Enzo and Damon, no vampirism required. She did this all on her own with no supernatural intervention causing her dark side to surface. So no, Bonnie did change, she isn't the person she used to be, and she certainly doesn't make Damon better. Bonnie has actively encouraged and backed Damon to be worse, and he has influenced her too.
Even Enzo commented that her moral compass was in a tizzy because of Damon lol.
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Post by Doppelgänger on Apr 25, 2016 11:42:00 GMT -5
In response to the BDs bitching about how TVD was always about Elena before. Whose ass are they always saving now? It's been a freaking snoozefest for those of us that don't give a crap about Bonnie Bennett.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2016 12:12:49 GMT -5
In response to the BDs bitching about how TVD was always about Elena before. Whose ass are they always saving now? It's been a freaking snoozefest for those of us that don't give a crap about Bonnie Bennett. Even JP's an idiot shooting her own self in the foot by stating how this was not the what's the conflict with Elena of the week show and as Somerhaldered mentioned now it's exactly that but just with Bonnie now. Really I almost forgot how we also spent season 5 and 6 searching for ways to keep Bonnie alive and whatnot with her dying on the other side and becoming the anchor, dying again and having to go through all that Gemini witch stuff and now there's the possibility of her becoming the huntress in the works since with her last season being 8 she's not dying at the end of this one. |
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Post by Somerhaldered on Apr 25, 2016 14:40:19 GMT -5
In response to the BDs bitching about how TVD was always about Elena before. Whose ass are they always saving now? It's been a freaking snoozefest for those of us that don't give a crap about Bonnie Bennett. Even JP's an idiot shooting her own self in the foot by stating how this was not the what's the conflict with Elena of the week show and as Somerhaldered mentioned now it's exactly that but just with Bonnie now. Really I almost forgot how we also spent season 5 and 6 searching for ways to keep Bonnie alive and whatnot with her dying on the other side and becoming the anchor, dying again and having to go through all that Gemini witch stuff and now there's the possibility of her becoming the huntress in the works since with her last season being 8 she's not dying at the end of this one. I. Am. So. Annoyed with all of this. I can't even. If I have to sit through another 'swap Bonnie's life for someone else's' storyline, I think I'm going to throw something at my tv. This is getting old. |
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Post by vampirelust on Apr 25, 2016 15:55:29 GMT -5
Remember when Bonnie chose to not tell anyone that she would die when the other side collapsed because wanted SHE to live out her days as normally as possible without having to say goodbye to peoples face (jeremy)? No, neither do the writers.
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Post by Somerhaldered on Apr 25, 2016 21:15:07 GMT -5
Remember when Bonnie chose to not tell anyone that she would die when the other side collapsed because wanted SHE to live out her days as normally as possible without having to say goodbye to peoples face (jeremy)? No, neither do the writers. BWAHAHAHAHAHA! I hated what she did to Jeremy, when she didn't have the guts to tell him to his face, then the poor guy ran through the woods trying to find her for his goodbye. Of course they had to spin it that she was being selfless and trying to spare everyone else's feelings. Bon Bon didn't want her friends to be sad or try and talk her out of anything. Sure at that point, the writing was on the wall for her so they couldn't reverse anything or tell her not to go, but she sure had the choice to tell them the truth. And let's not forget when she was a ghost and spent the summer pretending to be alive. It's OK for her to deceive her friends because she's doing it to spare their feelings, right? WTF? |
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Post by Doppelgänger on Apr 30, 2016 6:07:44 GMT -5
I don't know why they are wasting our time on Bonnie. She has always been a throw away character to me, not interesting, not worth my time and trying to make her interesting now is not working for me at all. I mean if season 8 is the last season it appears they are going to waste in on Bonnie and this lame ass huntress storyline while dragging Damon along because of their completely contrived friendship. It sounds boring as hell at this point. Every time Bonnie has died, I've been like, "Yeah, she's finally dead and won't waste time on my screen," but then she rises again... To me she's the worst character on TVD. Tyler would be my second worst, but at least JP had the sense to move him off screen.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2016 16:10:19 GMT -5
I get really tired of Damon/Elena being the characters marked as selfish and criticized yet when it comes to other characters like Stefan/Bonnie, they can say whatever and get away with it by the writing/fandom. This episode made me hate Bonnie more. It doesn't even feel like she's that remorseful or even trying to quiet down her hunter urges. I don't even get why when Bonnie started talking bad about Caroline/Damon, it just got reduced to, that's just the hunter in you talking. That excuse was never brought up when it came to Rayna talking equally as bad about Damon. The only thing the hunter has you engineered to do is take down your target when they're marked, so all those things Bonnie were saying in between just felt like her intentionally being a witch with a B on purpose.
Why in one scene was she so startled when it came to seeing Elena's sillouette in one scene, as if she was so surprised/relief to see her best friend and in the next scene she smugly states how she won't even have to explain to Elena about her killing Damon because by the time she wakes she's dead? The Bonnie/Elena dynamic feels very non-existent now and the Damon/Bonnie friendship even worst off. Despite him being the 'person she cares about most in the world' the final speech of Damon to bring her back didn't even work. It was just so stupid how they had Bonnie hesitate and look like it would work and then you see her swinging her stake. It pretty much ruined the moment and just made me hate this bogus friendship even more. I'm tired of the Bamon relationship being acknowleged as this super great friendship on screen, oh no Damon's the last resort. But when it comes down to it, the relationship just has no ounce of payoff. Instead of having a great moment and having Bonnie drop her stake, she just raises her stake with the intention to kill. Matt doesn't even like Damon, yet it came down to him to stop Bonnie. She couldn't even do it herself. I feel like we went from season 2 to 7. Does Bonnie even care about Elena or Damon anymore cause literally nothing worked lol. Elena wasn't even used as the tether in the sense that the fandom thought. Instead of it being this moment where Bonnie would come back to her senses, it was more about her being pissed off at Damon's words about wanting her to die so Elena would come back to everyone.
I don't think I'm ever going to get over Bonnie's line about not having to explain herself to Elena. It was the most OOC crap she could have ever said, and it made no sense for her to want to hurt a character that she claimed she loved like a sister. The worst part is the fandom is just going to brush over it like it's nothing. Only Elena and Damon ever get criticized for anything on this show.
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Post by Doppelgänger on May 6, 2016 18:10:44 GMT -5
I get really tired of Damon/Elena being the characters marked as selfish and criticized yet when it comes to other characters like Stefan/Bonnie, they can say whatever and get away with it by the writing/fandom. This episode made me hate Bonnie more. It doesn't even feel like she's that remorseful or even trying to quiet down her hunter urges. I don't even get why when Bonnie started talking bad about Caroline/Damon, it just got reduced to, that's just the hunter in you talking. That excuse was never brought up when it came to Rayna talking equally as bad about Damon. The only thing the hunter has you engineered to do is take down your target when they're marked, so all those things Bonnie were saying in between just felt like her intentionally being a witch with a B on purpose. Why in one scene was she so startled when it came to seeing Elena's sillouette in one scene, as if she was so surprised/relief to see her best friend and in the next scene she smugly states how she won't even have to explain to Elena about her killing Damon because by the time she wakes she's dead? The Bonnie/Elena dynamic feels very non-existent now and the Damon/Bonnie friendship even worst off. Despite him being the 'person she cares about most in the world' the final speech of Damon to bring her back didn't even work. It was just so stupid how they had Bonnie hesitate and look like it would work and then you see her swinging her stake. It pretty much ruined the moment and just made me hate this bogus friendship even more. I'm tired of the Bamon relationship being acknowleged as this super great friendship on screen, oh no Damon's the last resort. But when it comes down to it, the relationship just has no ounce of payoff. Instead of having a great moment and having Bonnie drop her stake, she just raises her stake with the intention to kill. Matt doesn't even like Damon, yet it came down to him to stop Bonnie. She couldn't even do it herself. I feel like we went from season 2 to 7. Does Bonnie even care about Elena or Damon anymore cause literally nothing worked lol. Elena wasn't even used as the tether in the sense that the fandom thought. Instead of it being this moment where Bonnie would come back to her senses, it was more about her being pissed off at Damon's words about wanting her to die so Elena would come back to everyone. I don't think I'm ever going to get over Bonnie's line about not having to explain herself to Elena. It was the most OOC crap she could have ever said, and it made no sense for her to want to hurt a character that she claimed she loved like a sister. The worst part is the fandom is just going to brush over it like it's nothing. Only Elena and Damon ever get criticized for anything on this show. Yeah it's like it's not even Bonnie anymore. Like I said a while ago, the things I did like about her character are now gone and she's just worthless as far as I am concerned. Is she even still a witch or just a Huntress now cause I'm thinking she's lost her powers or she would have used them on Damon I imagine and not a word about that? She acts more like she hates Elena then loves her like she used to. She would have done anything for Elena and nothing happened to make that change so what gives, writers? Why are you making Bonnie even more unlikable then she already is? Hopefully it's because she dies soon. She is now the villain I guess. |
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Post by de4good on May 6, 2016 18:59:49 GMT -5
I get really tired of Damon/Elena being the characters marked as selfish and criticized yet when it comes to other characters like Stefan/Bonnie, they can say whatever and get away with it by the writing/fandom. This episode made me hate Bonnie more. It doesn't even feel like she's that remorseful or even trying to quiet down her hunter urges. I don't even get why when Bonnie started talking bad about Caroline/Damon, it just got reduced to, that's just the hunter in you talking. That excuse was never brought up when it came to Rayna talking equally as bad about Damon. The only thing the hunter has you engineered to do is take down your target when they're marked, so all those things Bonnie were saying in between just felt like her intentionally being a witch with a B on purpose. Why in one scene was she so startled when it came to seeing Elena's sillouette in one scene, as if she was so surprised/relief to see her best friend and in the next scene she smugly states how she won't even have to explain to Elena about her killing Damon because by the time she wakes she's dead? The Bonnie/Elena dynamic feels very non-existent now and the Damon/Bonnie friendship even worst off. Despite him being the 'person she cares about most in the world' the final speech of Damon to bring her back didn't even work. It was just so stupid how they had Bonnie hesitate and look like it would work and then you see her swinging her stake. It pretty much ruined the moment and just made me hate this bogus friendship even more. I'm tired of the Bamon relationship being acknowleged as this super great friendship on screen, oh no Damon's the last resort. But when it comes down to it, the relationship just has no ounce of payoff. Instead of having a great moment and having Bonnie drop her stake, she just raises her stake with the intention to kill. Matt doesn't even like Damon, yet it came down to him to stop Bonnie. She couldn't even do it herself. I feel like we went from season 2 to 7. Does Bonnie even care about Elena or Damon anymore cause literally nothing worked lol. Elena wasn't even used as the tether in the sense that the fandom thought. Instead of it being this moment where Bonnie would come back to her senses, it was more about her being pissed off at Damon's words about wanting her to die so Elena would come back to everyone. I don't think I'm ever going to get over Bonnie's line about not having to explain herself to Elena. It was the most OOC crap she could have ever said, and it made no sense for her to want to hurt a character that she claimed she loved like a sister. The worst part is the fandom is just going to brush over it like it's nothing. Only Elena and Damon ever get criticized for anything on this show. Yeah it's like it's not even Bonnie anymore. Like I said a while ago, the things I did like about her character are now gone and she's just worthless as far as I am concerned. Is she even still a witch or just a Huntress now cause I'm thinking she's lost her powers or she would have used them on Damon I imagine and not a word about that? She acts more like she hates Elena then loves her like she used to. She would have done anything for Elena and nothing happened to make that change so what gives, writers? Why are you making Bonnie even more unlikable then she already is? Hopefully it's because she dies soon. She is now the villain I guess. thats a good point.. anyone can see bonnie is going to die in the end from miles. but is she going to die as a hero or villain is the big question now... the writers and actors have gone to a great deal to sell this bamon friendship. and not many a buying it.. i didn't hate bonnie character a season ago, i use to like her that she had gone through so much but now she has become unbearable.. and she is dragging damon character with her.. seriously when i see damon is season 7 i honestly question my self is this a character i fall in love with.. he is such a wimp with no balls.. damon should have stayed dead in the end of season 5 then to return as a character with no balls.. and same goes for alaric.. stefan can get torture by ramsay bolton, theon greyjoy style and i am pretty sure i till wouldn't give a f*ck about him.. |
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