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Post by Doppelgänger on Apr 17, 2015 17:00:30 GMT -5
GOODBYE, MYSTIC FALLS — In the aftermath of Alaric (Matt Davis) and Jo’s (guest star Jodi Lyn O’Keefe) powerful nuptials, things take a dramatic turn when an uninvited guest shows up, leaving Elena (Nina Dobrev) in terrible jeopardy. Despite Matt’s (Zach Roerig) advice to leave town to protect herself, a defiant Bonnie (Kat Graham) takes matters into her own hands after finding herself on the receiving end of a twisted plan. As Stefan (Paul Wesley) and Caroline (Candice Accola) reach an emotional crossroad in their relationship, a reunion with Liv (guest star Penelope Mitchell) leaves Tyler (Michael Trevino) faced with a decision that could change his life forever. Meanwhile, Lily's (guest star Annie Wersching) reckless actions cause Stefan to realize the lengths to which his mother will go to reunite with her “family.” Finally, after a devastating chain of events, Damon (Ian Somerhalder) is forced to make the most difficult decision of his life. Michael Malarkey also stars. Chris Grismer directed the episode written by Julie Plec & Caroline Dries (#622). Original airdate 5/14/2015.
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Post by Somerhaldered on May 15, 2015 10:15:18 GMT -5
Overall I thought this was a good episode.
We get confirmation that Jo is dead. Now that I'm writing this, it probably wasn't necessary for Kai to stab her in her belly, especially when he knew he was going to kill himself anyways thus killing everyone in the Coven along with him. Maybe just snap her neck? She was gonna die anyways - that was way harsh. I actually liked Jo's character, she was a breath of logic and smarts and I liked that there was an adult dynamic of her and Alaric that we could count on. They were the last of the "adults" (even though Damon is technically supposed to be one). I hope Jo's death and Elena sleeping will bring Dalaric back together again. Ric will need his friends and I would love to see the two of them team up again and be bad as*es fighting the Heretics and what's to come.
Sidebar: Just now typing that out made me realize the "physical" age difference between Damon and Elena - it's like 8 years, right? Funny that no one (like the real adults in Mystic Falls) ever commented on that. Technically, we know it's 155 years, hehe.
OK, back to it. I just felt really bad for Alaric in that moment, and the scene with him and Kai where he wasted all of his bullets - realized Kai couldn't die (Go for the head next time Ric!) and then tried to shoot himself; awe the look on Ric's face was of sheer agony. Then Ty came along and bit him - I was like "Yeah!" Tyler is finally being useful! As much as I loved Kai as a character/villain, I hated his actions these last couple of episodes so I was ready for him to get his.
So the scene with Liv and Tyler, I got NO feels. I'm sorry, was that supposed to be moving or am I the only one? I think I actually yawned. But why did he have to make her suffocate and die slowly - I was like "just snap her neck and be done with it", lol. She was going to die anyways, but so was the rest of her family. Maybe he should have gone over and killed her douchebag dad instead. Just sayin.
*Start out of place rant* Can I just say this whole 'Damon and Bonnie are BEST friends' thing is stupid? First of all, Matt told Bonnie to get the heck out of town because Damon would kill her without a second thought. If they were outwardly "best" friends as the writers keep trying to shove down our throats, Matt wouldn't think that Damon would kill her so easily. If it were Stefan or Jeremy, maybe even Alaric, Matt would have to think about what Damon would do because he knows he cares about them. If Matt thought Damon even cared about her a little, he wouldn't have said that. Stupid. Also, Damon says to Elena that he chose not to kill the love of his life's best friend. Can we just leave it at that? Elena could have just said "No, you chose to stand by your friend". OK, I'm fine with that, they are friends now. I wouldn't say best friends, it is just so ridiculous. *End out of place rant*
Lily - I have no words. What a waste of a character introduction. She, Enzo and the Heretics will clearly be the first half of the season big bads, I hope they take this somewhere interesting.
Steroline - I wish they could have had their talk not during my Delena moment, but whatevs. Parallels another Steroline talk/Delena moment that I won't further mention. But, Stefan didn't bug me this episode. I like what he said about his relationships with Elena and Damon - even though it was clearly just to set up this whole new "brothers" focus, he wasn't bashing Damon and I enjoyed it. Then what he was saying to Caroline, I also took it as a parallel to Delena's relationship: "you stood by me, you make me laugh, etc" everything he said (imo) was Delena, hahah.
Quickly going to touch on the decision, when Bonnie was dying. I literally laughed out loud when Damon kissed her and walked away and Kai was like "That's it? Did he just leave you?". I laughed, then said I know he won't leave her there, but that would be amazing, lol. Kai died twice this episode and both times were anti-climactic. The big showdown with him and Bonnie fell a little short, considering he waaay out-matched her. After all they put each other through and all that Damon had to sacrifice because of it, Bonnie didn't even get to be the one to kill him? Don't get me wrong, I'm glad Damon got the glory of doing it because of what he did to Elena, but Bonnie's whole angst with Kai seems lost and moot since she didn't get to finish him off.
Everyone's goodbyes to Elena were mostly good. The SEs got their last moment of course, Tyler's goodbye, I honestly looked away and I missed the whole thing *yawn*. The girls were great. I'm so glad they did the feather scene - that is the last time I actually liked Bonnie, in the beginning and right when she found out she was a witch (it started going downhill from there, lol). The feather scene in S1 was one of my favorite moments between the two, so that I liked. I didn't like how Care said Bonnie gets to have the better goodbye - Um, last I checked vampires die, they turn off their humanity, etc. You never know what's going to happen so I didn't like that line. Caroline could very well be gone too 60 years from now, given the environment they live in. She would have died from Tyler's bite had Klaus not had feelings for her, so yeah, wasn't a fan of that.
Delena - I <3 U. All of these years we've spent following this relationship, in my opinion the most epic couple I've had the pleasure of watching. The relationship itself and the buildups were well written - the angst and roadblocks were not. Some things fell short, like the memory swipe, but what a ride and what a couple for the ages. I will miss watching them on my screen every Thursday and I hope we get some flashbacks now and then. Maybe we'll get Damon visiting the tomb and talking to her from the outside, like he did with Alaric's grave (why did they have such great moments when Ric was dead? I digress). I thought it was very beautiful and a good way to end it without ending it - and leaving us wanting to see what happens ultimately.
I look forward to seeing where they take Damon's character, everyone else will just be for entertainment value and filler until they bring good storylines in.
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Post by milly on May 16, 2015 5:22:11 GMT -5
This episode was really good, so emotional and now I can't wait for the next season. It's amazing how every season ends so unpredictable. I think that the ending scene isn't where season 7 will start because heretics are the new bad, so I think they're gonna focus on that from the start without the time jump. I hope that we see an amazing Salvatore relationship and that Damon spends his 60 years being there for Stefan and his friends. OMG for Delena in this episode, I was a fan of DE but then they ruined it with Elena's memory loss and somehow they brought back all the feels and their story with that dance. I like how they didn't kill or made Elena live somewhere else. The goodbyes were sad but I can't see how Matt, Jeremy or Alaric could let Elena into their thoughts when neither of them is a vampire. Kai mentioned a rock covered in Bennett blood and I don't understand what is he talking about so if anyone can explain that.  |
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2015 6:26:39 GMT -5
Kai needed Bennett blood to do the spell and for a while we were all wondering how the heck could Kai get out at all without the blood of a Bennett, but as per the norm with TVD's writing, they give you a one line explanation to explain their 'plothole'. So it was basically just a way to have Kai get out without the gang/Lily having to do anything to free him, conveniently stumbling across Bennett blood.
As for why the blood of a Bennett is on a rock in 1903, I couldn't tell you lol.
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Post by Somerhaldered on May 16, 2015 7:29:56 GMT -5
Kai needed Bennett blood to do the spell and for a while we were all wondering how the heck could Kai get out at all without the blood of a Bennett, but as per the norm with TVD's writing, they give you a one line explanation to explain their 'plothole'. So it was basically just a way to have Kai get out without the gang/Lily having to do anything to free him, conveniently stumbling across Bennett blood. As for why the blood of a Bennett is on a rock in 1903, I couldn't tell you lol. Yeah that was the obvious loophole last week - that he needed Bennett blood to get out. Of course in their one sentence fashion, they explain it buuut I'm with you - I don't remember a Canadian rock with Bennett blood. I do remember the Canadian rock with Tessa's blood (which Bonnie had to get in 1994), but I'm at a loss too, so if someone knows where this was talked about before this episode, please enlighten us |
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Post by Somerhaldered on May 16, 2015 7:33:39 GMT -5
You know what I was thinking last week - that one of the heretics was a Bennett witch turned vamp. That might have made more sense, right? Then they could have gone into the whole witches hate vampires thing and when the Bennetts found out about this family member with this strange new power, they came up with a plan with the help of the Gemini coven to imprison her in 1903 with Lily.
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Post by Somerhaldered on May 16, 2015 10:00:06 GMT -5
So all they have to do to kill someone is superchop their head off? Why wouldn't they just do that to every big bad that came along, lol. I wanted more in the way that Kai went out. Sometimes there is not enough time to flesh things out and I get that, but maybe if he had suffered through the hallucinations of the werewolf bite, that could have been interesting. Maybe he imagines Bonnie forgiving him and that's when he lets his guard down and she comes in for real and kicks his a**.
They kept talking about this new big bad Bonnie yet every time she tried to do something in the last couple of episodes, she was helpless. Last week, Kai effectively "turned off" her magic so she was helpless against he and Lily, then in the finale he just threw her against the wall and she nearly died.
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Post by milly on May 17, 2015 8:02:12 GMT -5
What I didn't like in these few last seasons is how they deal with the new big bad too fast. At the beginning they made longer stories, for example we had several seasons about originals and doppelgangers and now whenever something new comes up they just get rid off it in a few episodes. Remember the hunters and how they never explained how Jeremy got to be one or travelers, they could write an entire season about these topics and it would be more interesting. This season was really bad when it comes to that because it was jumping from one topic to another. First it was about getting Damon, Bonnie and Mystic Falls back then it was about Elena's memory loss and Tripp, who btw. was not even close to being a big problem, then Liz got sick and then the cure and the heretics... I mean they really screw this season up, even with Elena's sleeping spell, usually they would do anything when it comes to Elena and now they decided to just let it go and put her in a coffin for indefinite time. I liked the beginning of season 6, with everyone apart and Elena still suffering but then with Elena's memory loss it got worse and worse...
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2015 8:41:52 GMT -5
What I didn't like in these few last seasons is how they deal with the new big bad too fast. At the beginning they made longer stories, for example we had several seasons about originals and doppelgangers and now whenever something new comes up they just get rid off it in a few episodes. Remember the hunters and how they never explained how Jeremy got to be one or travelers, they could write an entire season about these topics and it would be more interesting. This season was really bad when it comes to that because it was jumping from one topic to another. First it was about getting Damon, Bonnie and Mystic Falls back then it was about Elena's memory loss and Tripp, who btw. was not even close to being a big problem, then Liz got sick and then the cure and the heretics... I mean they really screw this season up, even with Elena's sleeping spell, usually they would do anything when it comes to Elena and now they decided to just let it go and put her in a coffin for indefinite time. I liked the beginning of season 6, with everyone apart and Elena still suffering but then with Elena's memory loss it got worse and worse... In regards to Elena being shoved into a coffin, it's more of an outside factor in the case of Nina, Elena's actor, leaving the show so there wasn't much else to do in regards to being able to save her, in this case keeping her asleep in a coffin was the better deal than outright killing the character. In this way Nina is able to come back and still play whatever part the writers may need.
As for the other part, yeah lately in the past seasons. Too many things just go on at once. You sort of long for the days of season 1 and 2, where one big Bad is built up all season to make an appearance in like the last episode or so.
TVD itself has a case of writing things in 'Arcs' over the course of a season which is why the focus can change so suddenly in the middle of a season.
From the TVD Wikia about season 6:
◾Chapter I: The Grieving Chapter (Ep. 601-607): ◾ This chapter follows the gang four months after Damon and Bonnie's death and their friends trying to move on with their lives. Elena, Jeremy and Stefan are still grieving and Caroline and Enzo will try and find a way to break The Travelers' anti-magic spell on Mystic Falls. We will also find out Damon and Bonnie's location. Tyler and Alaric will also come to terms with their new status, while Matt has joined a new Militia group. ◾ The main antagonists of this chapter are Tripp Cooke & Kai.
◾Chapter II: The Parker Chapter (Ep. 608-615): ◾This chapter mainly focuses on Parker Family, flashbacks show what Kai did to his family years ago. It also covers The Merge which takes an unexpected turn. Liv and Luke find their long lost sister. Jo and Alaric's reletionship takes a leap forward. ◾The main antagonist of this chapter is Kai.
◾Chapter III: The Salvatore Chapter (Ep. 616-622):
◾This chapter focuses on the Salvatore Brothers mother, Lily, and her companions, that she is so desperate to find, that she will do anything to reunite with them. Caroline deals with her loss of her mother; however, in doing so, she drags Stefan down with her in turning off their humanity. Elena will consider taking the cure, which leaves repercussions with Damon, who decides to take it with her. Alaric and Jo's wedding takes place, but it takes a turn for the worse when Kai appears to enact a deadly plan of revenge. ◾The main antagonists of this chapter are Caroline Forbes, Stefan Salvatore, (Okay at first I was like what the then I remembered the No humanity stuff lol) Lillian Salvatore and Kai Parker.
◾The main antagonists of this season are Tripp Cooke, Malachai Parker and Lillian Salvatore.
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2015 8:46:47 GMT -5
There's not really a 'definite' arc number as season 5 is split into four chapters. I actually think it may not even be a case of JP initially dividing the season into arcs but more so the wiki just looking at the episodes and seeing where the focus of the plot is changing and grouping it accordingly lol.
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Post by missmystic on May 20, 2015 15:49:44 GMT -5
Kai needed Bennett blood to do the spell and for a while we were all wondering how the heck could Kai get out at all without the blood of a Bennett, but as per the norm with TVD's writing, they give you a one line explanation to explain their 'plothole'. So it was basically just a way to have Kai get out without the gang/Lily having to do anything to free him, conveniently stumbling across Bennett blood. As for why the blood of a Bennett is on a rock in 1903, I couldn't tell you lol. Yeah that was the obvious loophole last week - that he needed Bennett blood to get out. Of course in their one sentence fashion, they explain it buuut I'm with you - I don't remember a Canadian rock with Bennett blood. I do remember the Canadian rock with Tessa's blood (which Bonnie had to get in 1994), but I'm at a loss too, so if someone knows where this was talked about before this episode, please enlighten us It is Tessa's blood stone he was talking about. She is Bonnie's ancestor, so technically "Bennett" blood. It's a copout basically, but whatever. lol |
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Post by Somerhaldered on May 20, 2015 23:52:35 GMT -5
Yeah that was the obvious loophole last week - that he needed Bennett blood to get out. Of course in their one sentence fashion, they explain it buuut I'm with you - I don't remember a Canadian rock with Bennett blood. I do remember the Canadian rock with Tessa's blood (which Bonnie had to get in 1994), but I'm at a loss too, so if someone knows where this was talked about before this episode, please enlighten us It is Tessa's blood stone he was talking about. She is Bonnie's ancestor, so technically "Bennett" blood. It's a copout basically, but whatever. lol Ah ok. I like my idea better, lol. Having one of the heretics turn out to be a Bennett witchvamp would explain the blood better then maybe Bonnie could have gotten more of a Bennett story line focus as she tried to deal with this witch and her new found family history. |
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Post by chrizakathemole on Aug 12, 2015 11:42:20 GMT -5
The last episode of season 6 and I was going to do like the last but everything is too connected lol. So I just thought I'd sum it up with pros and cons. My personal ones others will disagree I know.
Pro
Liv died
Kai is a vampire witch? okay .... that's a cool combo.
No more Elena! (did i mention this is huge pro! so i underscored it to show it's importance)
Caroline + Stefan (i cant believe how much I have grown to like this couple even if my Enzoline wont happen)
Bonnie got be badass again! **** yes!
The continuity of Kai not knowing that were wolves were real = great
Damon didnt just let bonnie die! thank you damon!
Thank you Elena for agreeing with what I've been saying. Bonnie gave up so much for you so yeah karma
Jeremy!
Con
Tyler lived , I was like Tylers going to die? BEST EPISODE EVER .... then nope!
Tylers "transformation" What did we loose the budget for a wolf? lol
The text , really? "ty werewolf , kai vampire" It's an emergency ****ING PHONE THEM!
Bonnie got hurt .... again really fast after her badass scene which was disappointing really
No Originals? I know they are not main characters anymore BUT Elena's "last episode" seems important enough for at least elijah as they had a bond.
Really not much Matt? But his storylines built i expected a big Matt Moment (but they did tease somthing with him so still hoping)
no Katherine (I hoped as last episode of actress maybe the worst treated death on tvd would be undone)
Great episode I cant wait for season 7 to see what happens with those freed vampires as lets face it in TVD that wont be the big bad as it''ll be like the other seasons, season 1 ends with Katherine tease big bad is Klaus, silas was teased and died like midway through lol but I look forward to seeing where this goes
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