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Post by beangelic1000 on Oct 8, 2015 5:55:19 GMT -5
This statement implies that Matt and the Bonnie characters don't have storylines and they are piggybacking off of the storylines of others. Just so there is no misunderstanding and just for clarification, can you explain which storylines you feel they are piggybacking off of, since it has been made clear in all spoilers that they do infact have their own.
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Post by Doppelgänger on Oct 8, 2015 7:13:43 GMT -5
This statement implies that Matt and the Bonnie characters don't have storylines and they are piggybacking off of the storylines of others. Just so there is no misunderstanding and just for clarification, can you explain which storylines you feel they are piggybacking off of, since it has been made clear in all spoilers that they do infact have their own. I think that's the point she was making is that this season they are supposed to have their own storylines (and we hope they do) rather than just being one of the gang going along with whatever the gang has going on and supporting that cause with little to no development of their characters separate from the gang. This has been a major fan criticism over the years so she isn't really implying anything that hasn't been recognized already by the fan community as a whole. We all want some fresh information about the gang, their characters and what makes them the way they are and not just see them support the group in crisis mode and then disappear. Aren't you tired of some of these characters always talking about everyone else but themselves? I know I am! I also have often said that I hated the way the show would throw all these new characters at us while ignoring the ones we want to know more about (the original gang). They are doing that again with the heretics, but we are all hoping that their statements about more character development with the core gang will hold true this season. We're supposed to know and love these characters. They are our homeboys (and girls) but we know hardly much more about a few of them than we do any new characters they throw at us. I think we knew as much about Kai, for instance, as we know about Matt after 6 seasons! Other shows I watch give massive character development to all the characters and make us love them in the process. TVD needs a whole lot more of that! That really goes for ALL the characters, in my opinion, even Damon has had crappy development for a main character. Everything is always about Stefan even when we think he's getting a storyline (flashback) about himself. I think we all want some better storytelling this season, all around, and we're being told we're going to get it. Trusting that what they say will be what they do has proven to be problematic over the years, however. LOL In my personal opinion, the reason the romance on this show has taken such a front place is because there isn't enough character writing going on. The romance is all they focus on when it would be nice to get some real character based storylines. Again, that's a major fan complaint I see out there, as well and the reason so many in the fandom have become bored with the show. Romance is great. We all love it, but we love it more when we know the nuances of the characters involved. Maybe I'm asking too much of a teen drama, but if the show wants to remain fresh and interesting to their loyal fans I do believe this is what they need to do. |
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Post by beangelic1000 on Oct 8, 2015 11:05:15 GMT -5
It is best that the person who actually made the statement reply for themselves.
In regards to the Original Gang, they were Damon, Stefan, Bonnie, Elena, Caroline, Tylor and Matt. Aleric was added later, and now included is Enzo. Therefore, the storylines of everyone in the gang are very much connected and interlinked, however, since the show started with three leads to begin with, and the empathises on Stefan and Elena whose voices we hear in the earlier seasons narrating their diaries, before Damon’s was added. Since they were developing the love triangle, means the empathises has always been on the romance rather then the development of all the different characters from the very start, hence the lack of development of anything else. In fact, it was one of the reasons why Damon and Bonnie’s relationship had been stopped from further development (Ian has been complaining ever since from 2011 to present day) because they were showing way too much on screen chemistry and Damon and Elena’s relationship was still in the early stages while she was in love with Stefan. Which meant the writers kept the Bamon dynamic in scenes but limited the scenes, until now. So had you stated this factor like years ago around S2, 3 and 4 about everything else taking a back seat to the romance I might have been on board, but stating this now as S7 is about to start is suspect.
What is so exciting about now, is the fact we are actually going to get individual characters such as Matt, Bonnie, Enzo and Aleric have a much larger role in their storylines as opposed to much earlier seasons when they were only secondary, along with the various romances that will take place throughout this season and the next.. For the first time we see Matt taking charge of his own destiny as we go from present day to time jump. And even Bonnie who is linked to Elena still gets a big role in what she wants out of her life, and doing things because she wants to do them. And taking on Lily and the Heretics and getting their town back is what Bonnie wants. Therefore, S7 will see Damon finding himself for the very first time, Bonnie taking charge of her life, and Matt having more control. That said, they are the gang, and the gang will always be interconnected to each other, only this time around everyone has a much bigger role to play then previously.
So unlike the triangle where the romances between Elena and the brothers ensured no proper positive individual character developments took place between all the characters. This season will be about all the various dynamics that will exist between the gang along with any romances that occur along the way. Moreover, romances will be part of the storylines and not THE storyline.
Bonnie Bennett will indeed be part of her own destiny, and Bonnie and Caroline will show they can be as badass as Damon, Stefan and Enzo.
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Post by Doppelgänger on Oct 8, 2015 12:00:46 GMT -5
It is best that the person who actually made the statement reply for themselves. In regards to the Original Gang, they were Damon, Stefan, Bonnie, Elena, Caroline, Tylor and Matt. Aleric was added later, and now included is Enzo. Therefore, the storylines of everyone in the gang are very much connected and interlinked, however, since the show started with three leads to begin with, and the empathises on Stefan and Elena whose voices we hear in the earlier seasons narrating their diaries, before Damon’s was added. Since they were developing the love triangle, means the empathises has always been on the romance rather then the development of all the different characters from the very start, hence the lack of development of anything else. In fact, it was one of the reasons why Damon and Bonnie’s relationship had been stopped from further development (Ian has been complaining ever since from 2011 to present day) because they were showing way too much on screen chemistry and Damon and Elena’s relationship was still in the early stages while she was in love with Stefan. Which meant the writers kept the Bamon dynamic in scenes but limited the scenes, until now. So had you stated this factor like years ago around S2, 3 and 4 about everything else taking a back seat to the romance I might have been on board, but stating this now as S7 is about to start is suspect.What is so exciting about now, is the fact we are actually going to get individual characters such as Matt, Bonnie, Enzo and Aleric have a much larger role in their storylines as opposed to much earlier seasons when they were only secondary, along with the various romances that will take place throughout this season and the next.. For the first time we see Matt taking charge of his own destiny as we go from present day to time jump. And even Bonnie who is linked to Elena still gets a big role in what she wants out of her life, and doing things because she wants to do them. And taking on Lily and the Heretics and getting their town back is what Bonnie wants. Therefore, S7 will see Damon finding himself for the very first time, Bonnie taking charge of her life, and Matt having more control. That said, they are the gang, and the gang will always be interconnected to each other, only this time around everyone has a much bigger role to play then previously. So unlike the triangle where the romances between Elena and the brothers ensured no proper positive individual character developments took place between all the characters. This season will be about all the various dynamics that will exist between the gang along with any romances that occur along the way. Moreover, romances will be part of the storylines and not THE storyline. Bonnie Bennett will indeed be part of her own destiny, and Bonnie and Caroline will show they can be as badass as Damon, Stefan and Enzo. As a moderator, admin AND a member of the board I can reply to whatever posts I decide to respond to. Please don't presume to tell me what posts I can respond to! I feel as if you are trying to find trouble where there isn't any by being confrontational. Please note that will not bode well for you here. In regard to your assumptions bolded in black above, until I hear the actual producers/writers say this I believe this is just a personal opinion of Ian's and should not be taken as a fact. Bonnie is certainly NOT the only one on the show who has not had alot of character development. Singling her out as 'different' from the rest of them in the same boat is really just not factual. As for the part in red, you are accusing me of something here, I presume. I make no apologies for not liking the Bonnie character and it certainly isn't suspect for me going into season 7 because I have been saying it for years...lol Sometimes though, I think the writing is to blame for that in many ways and I wish I could like her. If her character had been better handled perhaps I could. So, I don't know what you are implying as 'suspect' in what I said, but this is how I feel plainly and have always said so. |
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Post by beangelic1000 on Oct 8, 2015 12:58:54 GMT -5
Since this is the Bonnie Bennett thread dedicated to her, on a positive note, for everyone looking forward to tonights episode, enjoy and have a great time taking part in the live streaming with the cast and crew.
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Post by Doppelgänger on Oct 8, 2015 14:04:09 GMT -5
Since this is the Bonnie Bennett thread dedicated to her, on a positive note, for everyone looking forward to tonights episode, enjoy and have a great time taking part in the live streaming with the cast and crew. Nobody has implied anything negative about Bonnie. Not liking her as a character doesn't mean people can't reply to this thread as long as they aren't replying with, "Bonnie Sucks." This thread is open to all members of the board. It's also open to all shippers on the board so if someone ships Bonnie with Matt or whomever they can certainly say so here. As long as people are respectful to the topic and the other board members that is all that is required here. This isn't the Bamon topic. Posters don't have to ship her with anyone specific. I don't really ship her with anyone myself, though I did like the Kai dynamic and thought there could be some potential there but that's obviously done now. I'm hoping someday someone will come along that I can ship her with. I was discussing character development which is a major problem with the whole of TVD, including Bonnie's character, and my response was in that vein as it seemed to me that Somerhaldered was talking about that with the 'piggybacking' remark. If that wasn't what she meant she can certainly clarify what she meant in her own post. Let's hope this lack of character development problem changes this season. I will be watching. Not sure about the live stream...I like to concentrate on watching the show when it's on. I will be interested to see how they start off this season. |
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Post by beangelic1000 on Oct 15, 2015 11:53:29 GMT -5
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Post by beangelic1000 on Oct 15, 2015 11:54:39 GMT -5
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Post by beangelic1000 on Oct 15, 2015 11:56:05 GMT -5
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Post by beangelic1000 on Oct 15, 2015 11:57:10 GMT -5
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Post by beangelic1000 on Oct 16, 2015 14:39:20 GMT -5
'Supergirl' and 10 Other Badass Women on TVBonnie Bennett'The Vampire Diaries'  How many people can claim that they've died multiple times in order to save their friends' lives? On The CW, it's just one — a witch by the name of Bonnie Bennett (Kat Graham).
Ferociously loyal to her friends and loved ones, Bonnie will put her own life on the line countless times without a second thought if it means that someone else can be saved.
And it doesn't hurt that she's one of the most powerful witches that Mystic Falls has ever seen.
In a world populated by vampires, werewolves, hybrids and ghosts, it certainly pays to have a witch who's got your back through think and thin.www.hollywoodreporter.com/lists/supergirl-10-badass-women-tv-832588/item/bonnie-bennett-badass-women-tv-832618
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Post by beangelic1000 on Oct 17, 2015 14:46:18 GMT -5
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Post by Somerhaldered on Oct 17, 2015 23:10:38 GMT -5
What is so exciting about now, is the fact we are actually going to get individual characters such as Matt, Bonnie, Enzo and Aleric have a much larger role in their storylines as opposed to much earlier seasons when they were only secondary, along with the various romances that will take place throughout this season and the next.. For the first time we see Matt taking charge of his own destiny as we go from present day to time jump. And even Bonnie who is linked to Elena still gets a big role in what she wants out of her life, and doing things because she wants to do them. And taking on Lily and the Heretics and getting their town back is what Bonnie wants. Therefore, S7 will see Damon finding himself for the very first time, Bonnie taking charge of her life, and Matt having more control. That said, they are the gang, and the gang will always be interconnected to each other, only this time around everyone has a much bigger role to play then previously. Sorry, just now seeing the reply to my "piggybacking" comment. But it seems - by the paragraph I am quoting by you - that you have clearly made my point. I wasn't talking about upcoming spoilers and S7, I was talking about what we've seen from them in the past. Matt started out as part of the "original gang" as you stated, being Elena's high school sweetheart. I think we got a bit of a storyline with him when Nadia came into town and the traveler was using him as a host. Beyond that, what do we know about Matt? He is used as a punchline for Damon's jokes and he's a tag along buddy for Tyler and Jeremy. I am excited to see him do more this season with his story branching out into a deputy and possibly being more relevant. Maybe he will come up with plans every now and then instead of being told what to do by everyone else. I was just implying that it would be nice to see more of Matt (cause I love him) instead of just being a sidekick. Case in point, last week's episode: "Oh, we're just going to stop your heart so we can save Caroline." WTF, Really?? You're telling me fans of Matt are ok with the storylines he gets? As for Bonnie, I feel like she is a supporting cast as well (let's be real, as you said the main leads were the trio) and in all of 6 seasons, there is not too much of a back story for her either. When was the last time she got a major storyline that revolved around who she is as a witch and a person? When she found out about her mother - or when she was exploring her powers and met the Warlocks? We got a bit of her history during the whole flashbacks to how/why the vampires were in the tomb, but really, that was to explain why Katherine wasn't there - again, piggybacking off of her story. They keep saying how she's going to be a bad a**, but I have yet to see it because she couldn't even match up with the season's big bad (Kai) when it came down to it. I mentioned a scenario last season that would have been a good way for them to branch off and explore "Who is Bonnie Bennet". When Kai somehow found the Bennet blood to activate the ascendant, instead of him getting it from the rock, they could have made one of the heretics a Bennet witch! THEN we could branch off into Bonnie having her own story and find out more about her lineage and the potential powers she could have. I was looking forward to something like that, and I feel like I keep being let down when it comes to our supporting characters. I don't know if they just don't have enough time or they don't care, but I feel like there could be way more stories being told than just the vampires (yes, I realize it is the vampire diaries). But, it's just my two cents and how I see the show. Maybe you see it differently. Note, that I'm not saying anything bad about the supporting cast - I wish they went into more detail about them. I feel like they do a better job of that on The Originals. |
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Post by beangelic1000 on Oct 18, 2015 0:07:43 GMT -5
'Supergirl' and 10 Other Badass Women on TVBonnie Bennett'The Vampire Diaries' How many people can claim that they've died multiple times in order to save their friends' lives? On The CW, it's just one — a witch by the name of Bonnie Bennett (Kat Graham).
Ferociously loyal to her friends and loved ones, Bonnie will put her own life on the line countless times without a second thought if it means that someone else can be saved.
And it doesn't hurt that she's one of the most powerful witches that Mystic Falls has ever seen.
In a world populated by vampires, werewolves, hybrids and ghosts, it certainly pays to have a witch who's got your back through think and thin.www.hollywoodreporter.com/lists/supergirl-10-badass-women-tv-832588/item/bonnie-bennett-badass-women-tv-832618 |
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Post by beangelic1000 on Oct 23, 2015 7:04:36 GMT -5
‘Vampire Diaries’ Kat Graham: Bonnie is getting her powers back On the latest episode of “The Vampire Diaries,” titled “Age of Innocence,” town witch Bonnie Bennett (Kat Graham) goes on a road trip with Damon (Ian Somerhalder) and sparks may be flying. Graham dishes to Zap2it about what’s in store for Bonnie, including a flash-forward that reveals her new love interest and getting her witchy powers back.Zap2it: In the description for the upcoming episode, is says you’re going on a road trip with Damon, and the chemistry between you and Damon is insane.
Kat Graham: Well, it’s Damon and Bonnie and Alaric, by the way. We are going to Myrtle Beach to figure out what’s going on with the Phoenix stone, and what’s behind it, also to meet Oscar. It’s important to figure out who all the Heretics are and keep them close. This is a much more action and intense episode than anything – s***’s gonna hit the fan. There’s kind of a showdown between the Oscar character and me, Damon and Alaric – so that’s what you’re going to see. I know people want to see the Damon and Bonnie stuff, and I’m sure the writers hear them loud and clear!
Can you give us any hint as to who your new love interest will be?
Episode 5, which is really cool, if you’re interested in the love stuff between the characters, you’ll finally get it in the flash forward.
What’s different about your character this season?
The fans still want to see more Bonnie, they’ve been all about “more Bonnie, more Bonnie.” You’re going to see the character with her powers back, something everyone’s been wanting for a few years — she has them, she loses them, she has them, and she’s still a character that these other characters need, they need her. [Bonnie] is kind of the hero in a lot of ways for a lot of these situations, so the actual choice to help – she will be making for herself. It’s a more empowered Bonnie, which I’m excited for people to see.
What do you do to train for your role?
I think doing the work as an actor is super important and I wouldn’t sacrifice that for anything. I work with an acting coach, Ivana Chubbuck, for everything I do, and we break down even single scene and moment. There’s a lot of training I do before every episode.
Different scenes call for different things, right? So, when Ian [Somerhalder] and I had more scenes together, when we first starting working together, we would go over to Ivana’s house — work on the physicality of what’s happening in the scene and the beats and how we can make them makes sense..and still be funny and still be quirky.
What do you do to wind down from emotional taxing scenes?
I have a steam shower. Yes, that I do. To get off all the blood and prosthetics at the end of the day.
Did you originally audition for the role of Bonnie?
Yes, I did. But it’s so funny, because I had been dropped by my agency, an agency called Innovative, and like 2 weeks before I got the audition I had gone to another small agency that would take me, and they found me the audition for Bonnie and I went in, and I got it. It was kind of crazy, crazy, crazy. timing. I don’t know, I just want to say this because a lot of fans watch the show and they think it’s all so glamorous, but you just kinda can’t give up. You never know what’s gonna happen.
Does your family watch the show?
My mom watches the show — I’m hoping my family in Israel watches the show. They’re pretty busy, but my mom has never missed an episode.
Graham also reveals that she has a new album coming out called “Roxbury Drive,” which she is “super excited about.” As to whether her music will ever be featured on the show, Graham says it’s possible.
Finally, when asked if she’s ever seen someone dressed up as her for Halloween, the 26-year-old actress says yes — but not as Bonnie Bennett.
“Yes, as a Fanta girl! Which was really really funny, and they were men with mustaches, so it made it even better.”New episodes of “The Vampire Diaries” airs Thursdays at 8 p.m. ET/PT on the CW. zap2it.com/2015/10/the-vampire-diaries-kat-graham-interview-season-7/
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