The Vampire Diaries Loop Holes/Bloopers

[ruby2579]

I wanted to make this thread to discuss loopholes we have seen in The Vampire Diaries, Contradictions or Bloopers in the writing. I know Slash will have a blast in this thread.

Anyway I was rewatching an episode in season 1 with Logan Fell
He is telling Damon how there was no welcome committee and how he could not get into his own house because he lived alone.

So either the writers adjusted that theory to once the person dies someone can enter the house or Logan's house was under someone elses name...Thats just one

Also the secretary in the first episode ever is the nurse who caroline feeds on in season 2 lol

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How Kat was able to travel between Virginia and Chicago in the blink of an eye. More recently Bekah making it back to intercept Matt and Elena on the bridge, even squeezing in a conversation with Elijah beforehand. On that note how did she know they would be there? Did other cars also skit off the road or did she only walk out when Elena was coming?

Why Elena dying didn't also void the contract on the Gilbert house. Unless it's in Jeremy's name I don't remember.

Bonnie being able to put up the spell for the tomb to trap Kat although it took both her and her grandma to reseal it in season 1. Her grandma even dying after exerting so much energy to cast it.

Also Caroline being able to lift up the tomb door on her own when it took both Stefan and Damon to lift it before.

Caroline able to overpower Damon because she was just 'angrier'. I should add fighting off the tomb vamps to that also.

Lexi getting a hax ability to speed up the process of the ripper.

Jeremy claiming Anna to be the 'love of his life' although in the first season he was mainly using her to get to Vicki/get over Vicki and didn't do much to prevent her death. Or mourned her as long as he mourned Vicki. <---- I guess this could be filed under bloopers in the writing because that episode really made me go wtf in regards to Jeremy's character.

[Slash]

Damon & Elena traveling to Denver: Damon says plane, Stefan keeps referring to it as a 'road trip'. What the hell was it? And did they go from Virginia > Denver > Kansas > Virginia in one f'n day?

The whole 'Oldest Vampire in History is after me' line when Elijah is the eldest living Brother. Didn't exactly explain that one clearly.

Alaric's Apartment: Everyone else was able to enter without an invitation but Damon. Klaus' body was dragged in and when he was transferred back to it, he didn't suffer the same effects as Elijah did in the Salvatore House. Katherine being brought in--did they knock Alaric out, wake him up, have her invite her in and then knock him out again to transfer Klaus? Stefan waltzing right in when he needed to make a deal with Klaus. But in all this, Damon was the only one who was stopped cold from entering.

The whole body transfer thing. Was Maddox using an archaic form of it or what cause wasn't he draining Alaric of blood? Why is it that Bonnie & Esther can use one that focuses solely on touch? And Bonnie's didn't seem to even need Tyler nearby whereas Esther needed to touch Bekah. "Original/Old Witch" bloodline, right?

Alaric's newly discovered police record. Apparently a doctor is better at looking up a police record than a Sheriff. Who knew. And you can't say 'Council' cause both of them were on it and would have the same pull.

[ruby2579]

May 16, 2012 21:02:02 GMT -5 @anbuprincess said:

How Kat was able to travel between Virginia and Chicago in the blink of an eye. More recently Bekah making it back to intercept Matt and Elena on the bridge, even squeezing in a conversation with Elijah beforehand. On that note how did she know they would be there? Did other cars also skit off the road or did she only walk out when Elena was coming?

Well Wikery bridge is the only way to get back into mystic falls lol

Why Elena dying didn't also void the contract on the Gilbert house. Unless it's in Jeremy's name I don't remember.

They never really clarified this not unless it was under Aunt Jenna and then Jeremy? who knows

Bonnie being able to put up the spell for the tomb to trap Kat although it took both her and her grandma to reseal it in season 1. Her grandma even dying after exerting so much energy to cast it.

I always wondered that not unless they found a different spell that had the similar effect and less magic?

Also Caroline being able to lift up the tomb door on her own when it took both Stefan and Damon to lift it before.

Haha I noticed this one too that was funny lol

Caroline able to overpower Damon because she was just 'angrier'. I should add fighting off the tomb vamps to that also.

Lexi getting a hax ability to speed up the process of the ripper.
Maybe that was her special power or ability

Jeremy claiming Anna to be the 'love of his life' although in the first season he was mainly using her to get to Vicki/get over Vicki and didn't do much to prevent her death. Or mourned her as long as he mourned Vicki. <---- I guess this could be filed under bloopers in the writing because that episode really made me go wtf in regards to Jeremy's character.

[ruby2579]

May 16, 2012 21:34:55 GMT -5 Slash said:

Damon & Elena traveling to Denver: Damon says plane, Stefan keeps referring to it as a 'road trip'. What the hell was it? And did they go from Virginia > Denver > Kansas > Virginia in one f'n day?

Yea and you see them driving back and also driving to the hotel

The whole 'Oldest Vampire in History is after me' line when Elijah is the eldest living Brother. Didn't exactly explain that one clearly.

Well at that time they werent aware Klaus had any brothers

Alaric's Apartment: Everyone else was able to enter without an invitation but Damon. Klaus' body was dragged in and when he was transferred back to it, he didn't suffer the same effects as Elijah did in the Salvatore House. Katherine being brought in--did they knock Alaric out, wake him up, have her invite her in and then knock him out again to transfer Klaus? Stefan waltzing right in when he needed to make a deal with Klaus. But in all this, Damon was the only one who was stopped cold from entering.

[b]THIS IS SO TRUE TOTAL LOOPHOLE NOT UNLESS THE WITCH DID SOME TYPE OF SPELL

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The whole body transfer thing. Was Maddox using an archaic form of it or what cause wasn't he draining Alaric of blood? Why is it that Bonnie & Esther can use one that focuses solely on touch? And Bonnie's didn't seem to even need Tyler nearby whereas Esther needed to touch Bekah. "Original/Old Witch" bloodline, right?

I ALSO WONDERED THIS AS WELL AND THAT WHAT MAKES ME THINK TYLER WAS IN ON THE SPELL TO KEEP THEM ALL ALIVE

Alaric's newly discovered police record. Apparently a doctor is better at looking up a police record than a Sheriff. Who knew. And you can't say 'Council' cause both of them were on it and would have the same pull.[/quote]

ALSO YES I REMEMBERED THIS AND WONDERED HOW THE SHERIFF NEVER GOT ANYTHING LIKE THIS WHEN SHE LOOKED HIM UP FOR DAMON. SHE DID SAY HE HAD GOTTEN INTO A COUPLE OF FIGHTS I THINK

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I'm going to chuck that whole Alaric thing under shoddy writing. Or as I like to say, 'Things The Writers Haven't Thought Up Yet'.

The school would have done a background check on Alaric if they were going to hire him as a new teacher and Alaric himself would have made sure something like that wouldn't get him in trouble or else why even go under cover as a teacher in the first place.

I think the stuff with him getting into fights and whatnot was just thrown in last minute to make his alter ego thing more believable. On that note let's also throw in how crazy it is that Esther always talked to Alaric when he 'died' and came back.

They could at least throw some hints to this. Have Alaric say something along the lines of, 'Sometimes I have a feeling someone is watching me' or whatever when he comes back to life again. It's just another 'TTWHTUY'.

Another 'TTWHTUY' I'd like to add is the ripper thing. I doubt in season 1 the writers had it in mind to do a whole arc on ripper Stefan in season 3. Which is why he couldn't tell Elena about it cause the writers themselves didn't know they would do something like that. But then Lexi was introduced in that first season as well but it was more along the lines of trying to control Stefan's blood lust. I don't think the word ripper was even mentioned then was it?

ruby I didn't think Mystic Falls was that small

[ruby2579]

haha i read it in an article and julie answered that question lol thats the only way in and out of mystic falls lol

[Slash]

About the not knowing about Klaus' family thing, was this before or after Elijah made his appearance? And didn't they specifically mention 'Originals'? Plural? I don't know why but when I think 'Originals' and 'Old Ones' (the latter being the book term), I think of sort of a group of a variety of beings that are the 'Originals/Oldest' of their specific kind. So you'd maybe have Mikael in there, then a Werewolf, a Witch, etc.. I think this may be because of Supernatural's 'Alphas' which are the first of their kinds (descending from Eve) but leagues above their 'offspring'.

[ruby2579]

We knew Elijah was an Original but everyone at the time thought Klaus was the oldest vampire ever. No one knew Elijah and Klaus were brothers yet lol

I remember when they said that and when he said the sun and the moon curse is fake I WAS LIKE WTFFFFFF R U KIDDING ME LLOL

[ruby2579]

I got another Loophole or bad writing...lol

THE HYBRIDS what a waste -_- they could've done so much with that and Klaus technically still can make an army with the blood he stoled from Elena before she died..wonder if they will breing that up or just brush it under the rug

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The hybrids felt like your everyday henchmen on those TV shows where the main character easily knocks them aside

Maybe they were weak because they were a day old or something. Though the hybrids felt more like vampires in general than werewolves.

[Slash]

Hybrids...far cry from what Underworld did with the concept. Hybrids are top of the food chain in that universe and it shows (although they come in a variety of flavors).

TVD's take was just embarrassing. Jeremy killed one like it was nothing! Damon and Stefan tore through them, Mikael, upon first meeting one, finds a loophole in their design and compels it out of Klaus' control. Power wise, they should be able to hold their own against anything in the physical realm (Vampires obviously) but the poor writing for them made them 'everyday henchmen' as Anbu pointed out. They should have been harder to kill or something. Ripping out the hearts and chopping off heads? Too easy, especially the former where Damon & Elijah are Olympic-level in that regard.

They probably should have done something different with them in general. The rabid 'Ray' was more of a problem than any of Klaus' fully transitioned ones. Hell, Klaus took down a whole group of rabid ones (wish we had actually got to see this). They should pick up the 'rabid' bit with whatever he has left and since he's supposed to be dead, have them go rabid (Tyler is immune cause Klaus is shacking up in the body) and terrorize the east coast. Klaus, the other Originals, MF Gang & the Council need to put a stop to it.

Honestly, he wanted another family/army, he should have created some 'Vampire Generals' that are nearly as old as he is with the experience and knowledge to train his Hybrids if he's not going to do it cause currently, they're a waste of raw power/potential. I'd be more afraid of Klaus if he had a stable of Vampire Generals that have actually lived throughout time and have various abilities of their own. Mix in his 'raising Witches' backstory and you have a more interesting storyline. Also wish they had gone with one of my original theories about why he wanted Stefan: the Ripper. He was recruiting an army of 'Rippers' for after he fully transitioned into a Hybrid to really up the 'chaos' factor. Stefan was the one he wanted to be his 2nd in command. Probably a bit too 'militaristic' but that whole package (Hybrid Klaus, covenant of Witches, some Vampire Generals in Klaus' age range + a small army of Ripper Vampires) seems a lot more interesting than what we got and seems a lot more dangerous than...what we got.

Actually, it would have been even more interesting/better if Klaus was the one who used the creation spell again and wanted to make more 'Original' level Vampires for his new family.

These Writers...gonna go back in my fantasy bubble -_-

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I forgot that Klaus was a hybrid also.

It's just the writers never utilize the full potential of it. We've never seen him transform, he did back in season 2 offscreen but that was it.

If he had transformed into a wolf would he have been able to get in Elena's house then? Although the throwing newspaper bit and picket fences segment was cool, it gives it a more comical feel than scary. I would have loved to see a wolf terrorizing them.

Stefan, Damon, and Caroline should be fearful of Klaus and any of the other hybrids since they have the bite of a werewolf that is harmful to them. Yet they go at them like there's no risk.

We only seen Klaus bite Kat and that was in demonstration. Why don't we see him doing that more often. Especially considering his blood is the only cure to the bite?

The obvious answer being that Stefan, Caroline, and Damon are main characters and two of them have already been dealt the 'werewolf bite' aspect so maybe that's why they dropped that aspect altogether with Klaus.

But it really seems like Klaus has been nerfed in power since season 2. He was even said to have generations of witches helping him in regards to the curse but we've only seen two of them, maybe three if we count Gloria. I expected him to always have an inner circle of witches and other vampire henchmen (like the ones that came for Elena back in season 2). Since they all like to suck up to him since they're scared of him.

I think the fact that Klaus has become a recurring character probably done him in. I mean everyone agrees Klaus is awesome they like seeing him on screen and stuff but the fact that he has had so many run in with the main characters has reduced him to a 'comical' villain at most. It's because Damon can't die when he confronts him so there's many scenarios that have Klaus has to let him go or whatever. That should have been reduced.

If we only saw Klaus a couple of eps apart and most of it was him planning and being 'two steps' ahead of everyone and then coming when you least expected then he really could have fit that villain bill better.

In the books they had the show down with the gang vs Klaus and even having the white ask weapon they still got wrecked. And the Damon and Stefan in the books is more powerful than their show counterparts who for some reason can go toe to toe with Klaus and outsmart.

I think Klaus' character could have done less appearances and without all the Elena obsessing, drawing/painting, and chasing after Caroline especially while he's still trying to hurt her friends in the process. Is she supposed to turn a blind eye.

Klaus might as well have been Bowser and Elena Princess Peach with the way his plans to get her have been failing.

This post kinda turned out longer than I expected. Guess this is all my pent up feelings on this subject coming out

[Slash]

Just another shortcoming of the Writers. All the confrontations with Damon when we know Damon isn't going to die was just a poor showing for Klaus. Damon pretty much walks up to him and sucker punches him every damn time cause he knows he'll walk away from it (low point being Klaus running of when he simply mentioned Mikael). Klaus making the deal with Stefan to save him in return for Stefan coming along was one of the first mistakes (or was it not killing him when he first saw the Werewolf bite as a 'mercy' killing?). Klaus is supposed to be this 'monster' that everyone was afraid of and he's getting punked left and right by everyone. He's got a Hybrid 'army' who are worthless, he's afraid of everyone in his family and Vampires a fraction of his age and a Scooby Gang knockoff are giving him a run for his money.

Klaus should have let Damon die, compelled Stefan for what he wanted and went on about his business. From that point on, he could have had Elena easily, compelled Caroline to be his if he wanted, and none of this other BS would have gotten him in the crapper where he currently is. He would still have Katherine too (never would have sent her to save Damon and eventually, she would have run out of vervain so she'd be compelled again) as a nice trophy. Once things were in order, he then could have steadily freed the others and Bekah would have still been under his wing cause she wouldn't have had her moment with Elena and gotten the truth about their mother.

If there has ever been a dumber villain who could have prevented his downfall, please point him out. It's been downhill for Klaus because he doesn't use his power as he should.

Writers...they really shouldn't make the plot a central figure in the story (I know how that sounds). It's because the plot is working in Elena/Salvatores favor that you never have to worry/fear for them. They've made it so apparent this past season, especially with Klaus confrontations that the Writers should be kicked out of the business. Bonnie and Caroline probably fall into the same boat, with Bonnie being that 'plot device/deus ex machina' that the gang needs to stop something with a spell (most recently, Bonnie once again being used to save the gang from Alaric by moving Klaus).

I think part of the issue is they shove the triangle so much to the forefront that everything else kind of comes as an afterthought cause they're fashioning the story around said triangle and not really building a universe/story where the triangle itself resides.

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LOL, the show would have been over had all that happened. The problem is that these writers aka Julie Plec can't think long term as to what happens next in the plot and how it will effect the characters, the audience, et all. I swear half of us could write, direct, plan and execute these shows 10,000 times better than the staff they have doing it.

I just have too say this too, triangle? What triangle? There is no triangle...There's a sappy love story with a poor guy on the outside looking in and that's it.