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Post by Bri on Jan 20, 2013 23:44:30 GMT -5
If you are anti-Damon and/or his actions well this is the place to be
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2013 15:52:30 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2013 17:43:50 GMT -5
yeah I know! especially since he didn't even try to fake being sorry... he didn't even care how much his brother was hurting. Why couldn't he be sad for Stefan? Even if he was happy for himself... WHY?
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Post by Tara on Mar 6, 2013 15:07:24 GMT -5
Found this interesting- The double standards in this fandom is incredible. This is a little long, but if you’re a diehard Stelena and Stefan fan, I think it’s worth the read. Warning! It’s not Damon or Delena friendly, so don’t read if you like either of them. Finding the cure for Elena: Stefan wants to find the cure because he knew about Elena’s pain. She did not/does not want to be a vampire. Rewatch 4x04 again if you think Elena’s “okay” with being a vampire. And this was pre-sirebond Elena. And somehow because he wants to give her her life back or “fix her” as the Stefan haters say, he’s being a selfish dick. Damon wants to find the cure for her and he’s totally the most romantic person in the world. But if you rewatch 4x05, Damon’s fine with her either way. So why all of a sudden does he want the cure? I thought Damon’s never seen her more alive? Why is it okay for Damon to find the cure but Stefan can’t? Don’t you dare tell me it’s because Stefan wants to “fix her”. The delusional people who feel this way, obviously didn’t watch the conversation between Stefan and Elena in 4x04. So seriously STFU. -__-
Walking away from Elena/Loving Elena: So, remember back towards the end of season 3, the brother’s agreed that whomever Elena chooses, the other would walk away? Yeah, I do too. Elena chooses Stefan in the beginning of season 4. Damon decides to stick around. And yeah, as much as I hate Damon right now, I wouldn’t want him to leave. But, he doesn’t back off from their relationship! He performs a “sexual act” so to speak by letting Elena drink from him, knowing damn well what it means and making sure Elena doesn’t tell Stefan about it. Have some decency Damon and back the hell off. Oh but wait, you find out that they’ve broken up. “I’d say I’m sorry, but I’m not.” And then, you proceed to f*** Elena a mere 24 hours after her breakup. That’s classy. Elena basically chooses Damon if you want to call it that in 4x10. What does Stefan do? He walks away. He has a lot more respect for himself and his brother than Damon does right now. But, because he walks away and doesn’t fight for Elena, he must not really love her. Yeah, okay. Delusion speaking once again. Stefan wants Rebekah to erase every memory he’s ever had with Elena because the pain is just too much. He was in a committed relationship with Elena for 2 seasons and then during the third season Elena fought to bring him back and she did. They were reunited. They loved each other, protected each other, and cared about each other for a very long time. So, yeah. Stefan’s allowed to want to have that pain taken away. He’s allowed to forget about the girl he loves sleeping with and confessing her true feelings for the brother that he had trusted wholeheartedly. If you can’t understand what he’s going through, then you’re just heartless. I’m sorry. But, because he wants to do this, he must not really love Elena. They must not have been all that “epic”. Get your facts straight, he wants to forget because she was his epic love and to live an eternity believing that your epic love doesn’t love you anymore is enough to want to just forget about them entirely. Aw, Damon had to deal with Stefan and Elena for 3 and a half seasons. That’s not fair to him, he deserves to be happy also. Boohoo, cry me a freaking river. First of all, Elena was never Damon’s to pine over and he didn’t/shouldn’t have had to deal with anything from the two of them because she wasn’t his girlfriend! I don’t understand why these delusional people cannot see this. Damon deserves all the heartbreak he got from Elena because she WAS IN A COMMITTED RELATIONSHIP WITH HIS BROTHER for god’s sake. He should have backed the f*** off and he wouldn’t have gotten hurt in the first place. Damon seriously needs to have a better sense of self-worth, self-esteem, and he really needs to stop feeling so inferior to his little brother about everything.
Jeremy’s Mark: Stefan wants to grow Jeremy’s mark because Jeremy’s a hunter and he’s the key to the cure. Stefan finds a convicted murderer who has no remorse and would do it again, and Stefan turns him into a vampire so Jeremy can kill him. Stefan’s unbelievable! How could he kill someone and force Jeremy to do that? He’s such an ass! ↑ Elena’s definitely not okay with this and is furious that Stefan has gotten Jeremy involved this way. How could he do this to him? Stefan you’re such an ass! Really Elena? Because Stefan’s definitely the person to put someone he/she cares about in harm’s way deliberately. Damon teams up with Klaus and decides the best way to get Jeremy’s mark growing is to kill and slaughter a bar full of people/vampires/hybrids. And suddenly that’s okay? Oh he’s only doing it so he can find the cure for Elena. He’s only doing it because he cares about her. If you’re hating on Stefan for this, you should be hating Damon as well. ↑ And suddenly Elena’s okay with this? She thanks him for looking after Jeremy? Didn’t Stefan do the same thing only with someone who actually was an awful person? I’m sorry but that’s proof right there of a sire-bond. Damon’s okay with it, so I must be. Hmm..
Do you wanna know why it seems people always bring up the bad stuff Damon does and never the good stuff? It’s because all of the bad stuff Damon has done outweighs the good. There’s a lot more bad that he’s done over good which is why it’s easier to hate on him. Same goes with Stefan, only it’s reverse. The good that Stefan does outweighs the bad he’s done. He tries to be better. He puts others in front of his own needs. I’m not saying Stefan hasn’t done anything bad because he has. He’s done some pretty awful things, but he makes up for it by doing good. And Do you wanna know why so many SE’rs hate on Damon? It’s because he’s an ass. But, some of us actually like Damon. I use to love him until he completely showed no regard or respect towards his brother. I cannot stand the guy anymore. But the real reason why so many of us hate Damon is because of the delusional Delena and Damon stans out there who feel that Damon can do no wrong. Damon will do one thing but Stefan can do the exact same thing and people are suddenly hating on him. People like that piss me off. And I’m not saying all DE fans are like that because they’re not, but I’ve seen a lot more of the delusional ones. I guess as long as your name is Damon Salvatore or you’re played by Ian Somerhalder, you can do no wrong. No hate towards Ian, I love the guy, but some people need to differentiate between actor and character… Sorry about all this, I’m kinda in a bitchy mood and I’m just so tired of the hate and double standards when it comes to Stefan.
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Post by Ruby2579 on Mar 6, 2013 15:25:34 GMT -5
this shouldve went in the anti delena hahahaa lol
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Post by Tara on Mar 6, 2013 15:35:09 GMT -5
I was between the two lol. I settled for in here because it's more about Damon....or maybe not. lol.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2013 17:05:17 GMT -5
yeah I know! especially since he didn't even try to fake being sorry... he didn't even care how much his brother was hurting. Why couldn't he be sad for Stefan? Even if he was happy for himself... WHY? Damon is an awful brother, he has no respect fo Stefan at all. In season 3, Stefan gives up everything, his happiness, his life, Elena, becomes a ripper again, just to save Damon's life and what does Damon do? Kisses Elena and does everything in his power to make sure Elena falls for him while Stefan is gone. He also wanted her to give up on finding Stefan. In season 4, after Elena chooses Stefan, what does Damon do? He makes Elena drink his blood behind Stefan's back, while SE are together. Then, he sleeps with Elena just 24 hours after SE break up and he didn't even appologize. If I had a brother/sister like that, I wouldn't talk to him/her ever again and I would want to live as far away as possible from that person...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2013 17:31:29 GMT -5
Found this interesting- The double standards in this fandom is incredible. This is a little long, but if you’re a diehard Stelena and Stefan fan, I think it’s worth the read. Warning! It’s not Damon or Delena friendly, so don’t read if you like either of them.
Jeremy’s Mark: Stefan wants to grow Jeremy’s mark because Jeremy’s a hunter and he’s the key to the cure. Stefan finds a convicted murderer who has no remorse and would do it again, and Stefan turns him into a vampire so Jeremy can kill him. Stefan’s unbelievable! How could he kill someone and force Jeremy to do that? He’s such an ass! ↑ Elena’s definitely not okay with this and is furious that Stefan has gotten Jeremy involved this way. How could he do this to him? Stefan you’re such an ass! Really Elena? Because Stefan’s definitely the person to put someone he/she cares about in harm’s way deliberately. Damon teams up with Klaus and decides the best way to get Jeremy’s mark growing is to kill and slaughter a bar full of people/vampires/hybrids. And suddenly that’s okay? Oh he’s only doing it so he can find the cure for Elena. He’s only doing it because he cares about her. If you’re hating on Stefan for this, you should be hating Damon as well. ↑ And suddenly Elena’s okay with this? She thanks him for looking after Jeremy? Didn’t Stefan do the same thing only with someone who actually was an awful person? I’m sorry but that’s proof right there of a sire-bond. Damon’s okay with it, so I must be. Hmm..
About this, Tara... I saw people online saying that Stefan's guilty of Jeremy's death because Stefan was the one who made Jeremy become a hunter in the 1st place... And, Im like "WHAT"!?!?!?... With that messed up logic, Damon's the one guilty after all, you know why!? Because Damon was the one who told Elena to kill the other hunter and that death was what made Jeremy become a hunter in the 1st place so... Poor Stefan, is guilty for even breathing in this show!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2013 18:34:40 GMT -5
Damon only thinks about himself.... Stefan tried to have brotherly moments and show that he cares about his brother, but Damon never does the same. ....
the best we have heard which was SUPER pathetic was... "cause right now your all I got." like that was suppose to be comforting? What about when he is not all he has? Is he still going to help him? Why can't Damon say what Stefan needs hear EVER?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2013 20:06:44 GMT -5
Stefan may have done some horrible things BUT he always shows regret. He USUALLY apologizes. AND honestly when it comes to someone like let say well how about Andie for no reason except to make a point...at least when he did kill someone it was for a purpose (even while in ripper mode) and could be argued not saying I agree, but could be argued that he did no worse to Andie then what Damon was doing to her OR at least only minimally worse. How many time did Damon use her as a blood bag not to mention their first meeting in the bathtub or the time she was sobbing on the bathroom floor because of Damon. Damon cared from andie a little bit, but not really all that much... which is why Stefan chose to use her to make his point. It would make a point because it was OOC but not so hurtful because Damon was just using her anyway.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2013 20:13:55 GMT -5
yeah I know! especially since he didn't even try to fake being sorry... he didn't even care how much his brother was hurting. Why couldn't he be sad for Stefan? Even if he was happy for himself... WHY? Damon is an awful brother, he has no respect fo Stefan at all. In season 3, Stefan gives up everything, his happiness, his life, Elena, becomes a ripper again, just to save Damon's life and what does Damon do? Kisses Elena and does everything in his power to make sure Elena falls for him while Stefan is gone. He also wanted her to give up on finding Stefan. In season 4, after Elena chooses Stefan, what does Damon do? He makes Elena drink his blood behind Stefan's back, while SE are together. Then, he sleeps with Elena just 24 hours after SE break up and he didn't even appologize. If I had a brother/sister like that, I wouldn't talk to him/her ever again and I would want to live as far away as possible from that person... yeah and this is supposedly Damon letting Elena love someone else. Oh and remember that time he freaked out when Katherine said he didn't love him so he went running to his Katherine back up and she said she didn't love him so acted really mature and killed jeremy. Super mature of him. It was also really mature of him to say he was happy his brother was suffering. If it one thing Damon is not.... it is mature.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2013 20:17:54 GMT -5
It would fun to list all the occasions that Damon acted immature... it may be an infinite list though lol
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2013 20:27:36 GMT -5
It is truly silly that some people actually think there is a "good" and "bad" brother still... I think the writers have obviously tried to show that they both are bad,they are vampires, but only one truly acknowledges that his behavior is bad and wrong and it is NOT damon.
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Post by Ruby2579 on Mar 6, 2013 20:43:48 GMT -5
Stefan may have done some horrible things BUT he always shows regret. He USUALLY apologizes. AND honestly when it comes to someone like let say well how about Andie for no reason except to make a point...at least when he did kill someone it was for a purpose (even while in ripper mode) and could be argued not saying I agree, but could be argued that he did no worse to Andie then what Damon was doing to her OR at least only minimally worse. How many time did Damon use her as a blood bag not to mention their first meeting in the bathtub or the time she was sobbing on the bathroom floor because of Damon. Damon cared from andie a little bit, but not really all that much... which is why Stefan chose to use her to make his point. It would make a point because it was OOC but not so hurtful because Damon was just using her anyway. Thought you might like this Teppy. I Came across it on tumblr I just...hate it when people use killing Andie As a reason for Stefan being s***ty to Damon. No, there’s no excuse for killing her. He did it for his own selfish reasons and it was unnecessary, but seeing that scene of her dead with the scarf around her neck just makes me sick. Not only because she was murdered, but because why did she have that scarf around her neck? Because Damon was manipulating and using her as his own walking blood bag. He didn’t care about her. You don’t do that to the people you care about. It was nothing like Damon killing Lexi.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2013 20:52:44 GMT -5
exactly --- I mean the way he manipulated her to think that he actually had feelings for her was disgusting. She was merely a "distraction"--Damon's words
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