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Post by Doppelgänger on May 19, 2013 22:11:49 GMT -5
Boy I am hoping that Stefan standing in the water beneath DE in that poster indicates trouble ahead for Stefan. I hope it gives him an interesting story line and keeps SE apart! I want Steroline so bad I can taste it! SE just need to not be together for awhile. DE needs their time. Well they need their time cause I don't wanna quit TVD yet! LOL But I will! That poster sure was foreshadowing what would happen after all with Stefan in the water and all. |
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Post by Sweetluv4DE on May 19, 2013 23:44:13 GMT -5
I know that's kinda crazy. DE on top and Stefan in the water. LOL Remember I said Caroline was sitting there like she was the one calling him to shore. She was the closest to the water too. I think Steroline is happening next year. I think Tyler will come back and break it off with care bc too much has changed.
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Post by Doppelgänger on May 20, 2013 7:08:43 GMT -5
Lexi kind of gave her blessing for Klaroline, too. She also told Stefan to let Elena go. She's on the other side and she sees what's good for him, just like Alaric could see DE was right for Damon and Elena now that he was on the other side.
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Post by kat on May 20, 2013 9:26:17 GMT -5
Lexi kind of gave her blessing for Klaroline, too. She also told Stefan to let Elena go. She's on the other side and she sees what's good for him, just like Alaric could see DE was right for Damon and Elena now that he was on the other side. Wow, what an amazing interpretation. I like it. |
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Post by pixiestyx on May 20, 2013 22:09:26 GMT -5
Well, there's also an interesting parallel...Stefan let Elena drown in the S3 finale...Stefan "drowns" in the S4 finale.
And really, I haven't bothered much with the Stelena's response but some seem to be going off of a JP interview that sire bond was way to make the Delena happen (I haven't read the interview because UGH JP seriously?). While I don't agree with that at all, lets say that it was true. So what? All that means is that s*** happens. Life happens. Things change, people change. Hell, Elena met Damon first. Who's to say what would have happened if her parents hadn't been killed that night? There was a definite spark between her and Damon when they first met. He could have sought her out and she might have fallen for him. But no, life happened, and her parents died which set her on the course to Stefan.
She's no longer sired to Damon. And her unsired self chose Damon.
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Post by Doppelgänger on May 20, 2013 22:17:49 GMT -5
Yeah it was a crappy interview but she has a horrible way with words. I think basically she meant that it sped up her letting go of Stefan. She would have, it just would have taken longer. She was already falling in love with Damon but it gave her that push to let go. Now that we know that she really does love Damon the interview doesn't mean that much anymore.
It certainly doesn't mean she never loved him until the sire bond. Elena was loyal to Stefan even though she was undeniably attracted to and falling for Damon but she fought herself on it. She didn't want to be falling for him and that's why she got so mean to him in the later half of season three. She was actually mad at herself. I mean we all speculated these things but now we know. We saw it all happen for 3 seasons and only a blind person could deny it.
But people can be loyal to someone even as they are falling out of love with them and into love with someone else. It happens all the time. I think 3x22 just came around too quickly for Elena to be there yet, to the point she could say, screw it, I want to be with Damon, and now she is at that place. The way she let Stefan go, that was a permanent goodbye, no tears, have a good life, see ya.
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Post by Doppelgänger on May 20, 2013 22:46:34 GMT -5
First we had this:
Someday you’ll meet someone new and you’ll fall madly in love. And you’ll have moved on without even realizing it. - Caroline
And then we had this:
Stefan: What if Elena was the one?
Lexie: She was one. And she will always be an epic love. Contrary to popular belief, there are actually multiple ones, especially for a vampire. The only way to find another is to let go. Move on.
Yep, I think Stefan will be getting a new love interest this season...
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Post by Doppelgänger on May 21, 2013 7:11:12 GMT -5
Currently on my Twitter TL and my comments on it:
Heroine Elena@elijahkings89
@julieplec Why did Elena tell Damon while Stefan was still there? Why has she become inconsiderate and selfish?It saddens me as an Elena fan
julieplec@julieplec
@elijahkings89 Your questions make me think you want her to be with Stefan. I get it, believe me. But we're not in that part of her journey.
Heroine Elena@elijahkings89
@julieplec Not exactly. I just don't understand how her values have changed? I thought we were getting the "real" Elena back in the finale.
Heroine Elena@elijahkings89
@julieplec I actually love Damon too. I just don't like that my heroine has to change her values & integrity in order to accept him.
julieplec@julieplec
@elijahkings89 Yes, but experience has changed her, just like in real life. We go through things, we change.
Heroine Elena@elijahkings89
@julieplec That's understandable but what bothers me is thatit seemed like this tragic change was glorified in the name of Damon's happiness
Alexander&Tatiana ✩@damontomyelena
@elijahkings89 how can you be a Elena stan but want her with Stefan? That's a completly antithesis and doesn't even make sense
That part is over with! We saw 4 seasons of SE. Bring on the DE! How can some people not see that Damon is the best for Elena in this phase of her life, just like Rose said. Being with someone who no longer makes you happy, who makes you feel broken while truly being in love with someone else is not good for anyone. I don't understand how someone who proclaims to be an 'Elena stan,' could want that for her and not see all the ways that Damon has been there for her when Stefan simply wasn't. That is what changed. It isn't about Damon. It's about Elena and who she is now. Stefan has not treated her the same since season two and Damon has been the one who has been there for her through thick and thin. I don't know how people can't see that.
Some SEs like to try to imply that Damon is controlling and abusive. Why don't they open their eyes and take a look around them? Really look at what has happened in the show. Damon always wants what is best for her and has strongly stated so and if he could, he would save her, even from herself. That isn't controlling or abusive. Stefan, on the other hand, would rather make her feel broken and incomplete, tell her he was sorry he met her, say he wanted his memory of her erased and even believing she was sired and not in control of herself, treat her like dirt for it. Treat her like she's not worthy of his time any more. THAT is abusive. THAT made her feel hurt and sad and damaged. It hurt her as a person, emotionally. It hurt her happiness in life, which we all need, no matter what our circumstances are. Telling her she is simply wrong the way she is, is hurtful. To me that is the heart of an abusive relationship, when your best is not good enough for the other person and all you hear is how you aren't good enough. It is controlling to try to change someone into what YOU want them to be. Well, that's Stefan, not Damon. He did it to Damon and he does it to Elena. The reason Damon's self esteem is in such bad shape is Stefan. All he ever hears from him is how horrible he is, so naturally, he believes it. He never has a nice or kind word to tell Damon, an encouragement for Damon to grab onto and feel good about himself for once. He'd rather continue to trash on him, beat him down and make him feel worthless. Now he's doing it to Elena. Stefan isn't good for anyone and he isn't good for Elena anymore either.
Just look at Elena's comments and you can see why she chose Damon. Paraphrasing as I don't have the exact quotes: "Damon makes me happy." "Stefan makes me feel like a broken toy." "Damon has always been there for me when I needed him."
It doesn't matter what ANYONE else thinks of Damon and she's finally gotten to that point of not caring because what he does for her made her fall in love with him and she's now willing to take that chance on him. This is what has happened in the last two seasons and what changed for Elena and if you look at it in it's entirety you should be able to see it clearly. Look at the video I posted 2 days ago which contains only some of the nasty things Stefan said and/or did to Elena and they can't all be explained away with the fact he was a ripper cause alot of it is recent.
I find it incredibly hypocritical that some SEs will hang onto Damon's early behavior in the show and never let it go, yet turn a blind eye to Stefan's CURRENT behavior toward Elena and can't seem to see it and don't seem to get why she chose Damon this time around. It's pretty obvious to me. Instead they try to invent new reasons to hate Damon, like that somehow he was responsible for the sire bond and the fact that they slept together. He wasn't. He didn't even make the moves on her. He's not to blame and it is pretty pathetic to me to try to blame it all on him, but that's just the thing, even now that they KNOW she really did love him and therefore there was not a thing wrong with what happened between them, they continue to say nasty remarks about Damon and the sire bond and they can't see it. If they aren't willing to look at the truth they won't ever GET why she chose Damon.
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Post by pixiestyx on May 21, 2013 23:03:11 GMT -5
But when Elena fell in love with Stefan, her values and integrity already started to change. Have they forgotten that she was willing to sacrifice a nameless vampire and werewolf in S2  She sees things in shades of grey and has for a long time. When she became a vampire, her experiences changed her. Caroline has changed since S1; so has Elena. Stefan is the one who has stood still.
And please, why shouldn't Elena have told Damon she loved him while Stefan was in the house? It's not like he was in the same room. She told him a long time ago that she was no longer in love with Stefan and that she loved Damon. Stefan just refused to believe it. Not only that but she gave the cure to Stefan. Meaning she was letting him go and choosing to stay a vampire. Sure he gave the cure back to her but she still didn't take it. The point is she wanted Damon to take the cure with her and when there was only one cure, she chose to stay a vampire. Katherine may have forced her hand a bit but I don't think she would have taken it. She's not that bad at being a vampire; in fact despite her initial difficulties I think she'll be a pretty good vampire.
I know there are some people who have issues with Elena saying "this will prove to be my worst choice" but I really feel it lies with the fact that everyone, save Alaric (and Jeremy now) is against them and telling them that they would never work. Damon himself said "all the apologies in the world can't encompass all the reasons that I am wrong for you". So Damon says he's wrong for her and she says it's her worst choice but she no longer cares. She is NOT sorry for being in love with him. Despite how wrong it seems to everyone else, they work together and are perfect for each other.
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Post by kat on May 22, 2013 10:40:53 GMT -5
Stefan hearing her confession in the same room is THE LEAST SE DESERVE S after they interrupted DE's first time with the SB crap.
All I know is, I will have an inability to continue shipping for the rest of my life if she goes back to Stefan at this point...whether its the writers, alloy, or a broken up couple not wanting to perform those scenes anymore.
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Post by Doppelgänger on Jun 6, 2013 21:05:57 GMT -5
OMG this is true. The first pic that shows up under images is Stelena....  Stelena is epic alright, epic FAIL. larrystylinziam klaroline and delena have something what your precious ship doesn't and that'scalled chemistry. google most boring tv couple and stelena is the very first picture that appears. coincidence ?? i think not.i'm not joking do it! |
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Post by Sweetluv4DE on Jun 7, 2013 16:47:47 GMT -5
That is hilarious!!!! i did!!! But I also saw Pacey and Joey on there so I'd have to say NO WAY to that but I saw a lot of couples I agreed with in the images.
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Post by leandril on Jun 7, 2013 18:49:23 GMT -5
That is hilarious!!!! i did!!! But I also saw Pacey and Joey on there so I'd have to say NO WAY to that but I saw a lot of couples I agreed with in the images. Fret not  If you actually click in the picture, it brings up an article "The TV Couples Who Should Have Lasted Forever"  Pacey and Joey were just perfect! |
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Post by kat on Jun 7, 2013 23:31:35 GMT -5
Stelena is the most boring couple I've ever seen on TV, hands down... Except maybe some of the more bland couples in daytime soap operas.
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Post by Doppelgänger on Jul 4, 2013 17:51:24 GMT -5
I'm not sorry that the Delena story line may well drive some SEs away... Kinda actually pleased at the idea to be honest and I doubt we'll even notice their absence, except for the pleasant silence that will remain after their departure.
To think we put up with their ship for as long as we did and they can't handle it decently when it turns the other way. Whatever...get over yourselves and your attitude that your ship is THE ship of the show. Obviously you are wrong!
This is aimed at the tumblr freaks that came out to play after JP's latest article...
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She sees things in shades of grey and has for a long time. When she became a vampire, her experiences changed her. Caroline has changed since S1; so has Elena. Stefan is the one who has stood still.
If you actually click in the picture, it brings up an article "The TV Couples Who Should Have Lasted Forever" 
i always avoid when its on hiatus here to avoid spoilers
Jun 10, 2016 15:46:17 GMT -5
i always avoid when its on hiatus here to avoid spoilers
Jun 10, 2016 15:46:17 GMT -5