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Post by Doppelgänger on Aug 1, 2014 15:06:57 GMT -5
And even recently Bonnie has not been a fan of the idea of Elena and Damon:
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Post by Charlotte on Aug 1, 2014 15:40:10 GMT -5
I never even saw their hate for each other as anything intense. And certainly less-intense hate since they have gotten to know each other thru the years. They are lukewarm at best! I can't imagine JP going anywhere romantic with this and once I watched the video rather than read the article, I do think she will steer clear of it. But then I saw how PW influenced Stefan's story arc and it all makes me cringe. She needs to remember she is the boss and her reputation is important.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2014 15:41:06 GMT -5
I actually forgot some of those moments and quotes happened. It's amazing anyone can ship these two together. Also anyone who thinks Bonnie is higher on Damon's list than Elena is seriously deluding themselves.
People are also forgetting that Bonnie and Damon are dead, not on some vacation. Damon hasn't broken up with Elena nor has he left her of his own accord. He's still in love with Elena. He's not just going to suddenly forget about Elena or Bonnie with Jeremy for that matter. I'm really not sure what Bamons are expecting to happen. That Bonnie and Damon will be the first ship in TVD history to get together instantly with no conflict in the span of three or so episodes and that when they come back Elena and Jeremy will just shrug their shoulders and that's that?
Also going back to what Doppel said, that word service is certainly not a good thing. I'm glad JP's never brought that word up in regards to Delena in the sense that she feels she has to fill a certain duty to put the characters together and get on with it.
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Post by Charlotte on Aug 1, 2014 15:42:37 GMT -5
If Stelenas are Bamons how could they forgive Bonnie for sleeping with Elena's boyfriend since they point to that as one of many reasons for hating on Damon?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2014 16:21:31 GMT -5
If Stelenas are Bamons how could they forgive Bonnie for sleeping with Elena's boyfriend since they point to that as one of many reasons for hating on Damon? To them as long as it keeps Damon away from Elena, they wouldn't care what has to go down lol
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Post by Doppelgänger on Aug 1, 2014 17:13:20 GMT -5
If Stelenas are Bamons how could they forgive Bonnie for sleeping with Elena's boyfriend since they point to that as one of many reasons for hating on Damon? To them as long as it keeps Damon away from Elena, they wouldn't care what has to go down lol Exactly. For the Stelenas, Bamon is a means to an end. It gets Elena away from Damon. I don't think any of them really care about Bonnie or if they did the same arguments they use about Delena would apply as to why they think Damon's no good for her either!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2014 17:45:52 GMT -5
Also Bamon's relationship is in no way comparable or a threat to Delena, if anything Stelena was Delena's biggest competition, obligatory from being the other side of the triangle, and that ship has sailed. Given the development and focus Bamon has ever gotten, you can tell JP has never held any interest in the relationship. Even her statement about trying to service the relationship from the books (which again is a way to keep hope alive without actually knocking the idea) is a bit false. If she ever did cared for the relationship and she knew how they were in the books, she wouldn't give Damon lines about gladly letting Bonnie die or stating how he outright doesn't care about her. If anything she could have just left them on 'neutral/tolerant' terms. But JP has outright shown us who Damon would choose countless times.
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Post by Doppelgänger on Aug 4, 2014 9:01:35 GMT -5
So, I was reading the other day, some things some Bonnie fans were saying and they were all up in arms because apparently JP said that Kat's acting was 'stiff and cold' at some point and because they were Bonnie fans I assume she did say it. I thought about this and realized I agree with her, not that I think that isn't exactly the way she is supposed to be, especially toward Damon whom she has never hid the fact that he isn't her favorite person but yeah, she acts stiff and cold around him which is exactly why I have never seen this so called 'chemistry' that the Bamons talk about.
I see Ian, who could have chemistry with a tree, doing his part but not Kat and I don't fault her for that because she was supposed to hate him and she indeed seemed like she hated him (especially given that in real life they are friends) so I don't really call it a fault in her acting, but there it is...the reason they lack chemistry to me is Kat (Bonnie) and her hatred for Damon which is palpable in most of their scenes together. She frowns at him. She rolls her eyes at him. She looks like she's disgusted just looking at him. All the hate is showing and absolutely nothing else. On rare occasions she smiled and you can bet those are the pics all the Bamons hold onto forever...I mean it's ridiculous. I don't even think Caroline has looked at him with as much hatred on her face.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2014 8:24:20 GMT -5
It feels like some Bamon fans are just putting their hands in their ears and going, 'Lalala!'
I'm still trying to figure out when this whole Bamon 'relationship' will happen amongst Damon and Elena both longing for each other. Even the 'maybe they'll lose their memories' is just laughable at best. It means that the relationship isn't strong enough to stand on it's own without some cheap gimmick to help it along. Even so I don't know how them losing their memories will automatically mean romance. Are they just going to automatically be attracted to each other and not even go through the motions of anything? Though I guess the fact that both of them are dead and have no idea where they even are (or who they're with if memories are gone) means nothing when it comes to the Bamon romance.
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Post by Doppelgänger on Aug 17, 2014 9:09:02 GMT -5
It feels like some Bamon fans are just putting their hands in their ears and going, 'Lalala!'
I'm still trying to figure out when this whole Bamon 'relationship' will happen amongst Damon and Elena both longing for each other. Even the 'maybe they'll lose their memories' is just laughable at best. It means that the relationship isn't strong enough to stand on it's own without some cheap gimmick to help it along. Even so I don't know how them losing their memories will automatically mean romance. Are they just going to automatically be attracted to each other and not even go through the motions of anything? Though I guess the fact that both of them are dead and have no idea where they even are (or who they're with if memories are gone) means nothing when it comes to the Bamon romance. Yeah it doesn't make any sense and JP practically said it isn't going to happen. Their aim is to develop a budding friendship between them which I'm all for. Damon needs more supporters of him and his relationship with Elena. JP threw them a bone by saying if they had incredible chemistry maybe something would develop organically...in other words, ...not gonna happen, not in the plans, but never say never...is what she said.
Even in the books I never saw 'love' between Damon and Bonnie. The one time he does kiss her (in the recent fanfic) it's to get her attention. He didn't want to slap her and he knew she'd respond to him kissing her because he knew she was crushing on him. It wasn't a kiss for the sake of kissing. She even made sure and labeled it a 'chaste' kiss. Yet the Bamons hang onto that like a lifeline as if that means love and will happen in the show too. It's ridiculous if you ask me. They are gonna be crushed when nothing comes of this but oh well. It would be show suicide to go there and I don't think they are that stupid. The only way I could ever see it happening is by some supernatural means and that would just be a cheap trick.
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Post by Doppelgänger on Aug 17, 2014 9:16:20 GMT -5
Here's a poll from a while back that shows just how unpopular Bamon is with the fans. Why piss off 81% of fans to make 16% happy? It would make no sense! But Tyler is available now!:
www.wetpaint.com/vampire-diaries/articles/poll-should-damon-and-bonnie-be-a-couple
Poll: Should Damon and Bonnie be a Couple?
What should Damon and Bonnie do? Should they hook up with each other, or other folks ... or stay single?
Enough "Bamon" fans made themselves heard for Hollywood Life to question the idea of Damon + Bonnie and to set up polls for a definitive fan vote. As the Hollywood Life writer points out, "This is a really hard couple for me to imagine, and not just because Bonnie and Damon have tried to kill each other on multiple occasions. She hates him for turning and killing Vicki (Kayla Ewell), and now for turning Caroline (Candice Accola.) She’s cool with Stefan, but she generally hates vampires. In fact, her hatred of vampires might make her a better match for one of the town’s resident werewolves, Tyler (Michael Trevino) or Mason Lockwood (Taylor Kinney.)."
Apparently fans either changed their minds or were never really pro Bamon. In the poll for who should be with Damon, 81.58% of fans picked Elena, with only 16.28% for Bonnie and less than 1% for Katherine, Caroline, Jenna, No One, and Other. For Bonnie, 73.9% of fans picked Tyler, 19.98% picked Damon, 2.23% picked Matt, 1.22% said Mason, and 2.68% went for Other.
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Post by Doppelgänger on Aug 17, 2014 9:20:43 GMT -5
A more recent poll (Klaroline is another one I don't get). In this poll Bamon gets only 4% when up against all other ships for favorite. I mean we are talking a very small minority of fans. They may be loud but there aren't a lot of them: www.spoilertv.com/2014/08/usd-poll-best-ship-on-vampire-diaries.htmlDelena 40.12% (2,158 votes) Klaroline 36.23% (1,949 votes) Steroline 7.62% (410 votes) Stelena 6.92% (372 votes) Bamon 4.29% (231 votes) Kalijah 3.66% (197 votes) Beremy 0.69% (37 votes) Stebekah 0.46% (25 votes) Total Votes: 5,379
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Post by Doppelgänger on Aug 17, 2014 9:27:16 GMT -5
Also there's plenty of evidence around that suggests that the Stelena fanbase is using Bamon to try to get their couple back. They have strategically worked together by emailing/tweeting/posting to the writers about Bamon who I doubt they even really care about being together. But they want Delena dead and gone so this is their attempt to make that happen, which makes me dislike Bamon even more, knowing that some are doing this just to cause the demise of Delena.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2014 11:31:36 GMT -5
It feels like some Bamon fans are just putting their hands in their ears and going, 'Lalala!'
I'm still trying to figure out when this whole Bamon 'relationship' will happen amongst Damon and Elena both longing for each other. Even the 'maybe they'll lose their memories' is just laughable at best. It means that the relationship isn't strong enough to stand on it's own without some cheap gimmick to help it along. Even so I don't know how them losing their memories will automatically mean romance. Are they just going to automatically be attracted to each other and not even go through the motions of anything? Though I guess the fact that both of them are dead and have no idea where they even are (or who they're with if memories are gone) means nothing when it comes to the Bamon romance. Yeah it doesn't make any sense and JP practically said it isn't going to happen. Their aim is to develop a budding friendship between them which I'm all for. Damon needs more supporters of him and his relationship with Elena. JP threw them a bone by saying if they had incredible chemistry maybe something would develop organically...in other words, ...not gonna happen, not in the plans, but never say never...is what she said.
Even in the books I never saw 'love' between Damon and Bonnie. The one time he does kiss her (in the recent fanfic) it's to get her attention. He didn't want to slap her and he knew she'd respond to him kissing her because he knew she was crushing on him. It wasn't a kiss for the sake of kissing. She even made sure and labeled it a 'chaste' kiss. Yet the Bamons hang onto that like a lifeline as if that means love and will happen in the show too. It's ridiculous if you ask me. They are gonna be crushed when nothing comes of this but oh well. It would be show suicide to go there and I don't think they are that stupid. The only way I could ever see it happening is by some supernatural means and that would just be a cheap trick.
Yep I never saw much Bamon romance in the books either, as much as people want to believe that there's some form of triangle between Damon, Elena, and Bonnie. Damon and Elena are the ones who get all the intimate, romantic moments while Bonnie and Damon come off more as a mother hen from Damon's end and a high school crush from Bonnie's end. There's even moments where Bonnie herself states that she can never compare to Elena. Though if anything Damon's dying quote and actions says it all, Bonnie was beside him but he reached over her lap to grab Elena's hand and it was to Elena that he proclaimed he's only ever loved once and wanted her to remember that. But of course most Bamon's pick and choose moments rather look at things as a whole. Along with these season 6 interviews as well.
I really can't wait for this new season to start and all this Bamon hype dies down. As there is really nothing to indicate that the story is headed in a Bamon direction and it wouldn't make sense either.
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Post by Doppelgänger on Aug 17, 2014 12:48:39 GMT -5
Yeah it doesn't make any sense and JP practically said it isn't going to happen. Their aim is to develop a budding friendship between them which I'm all for. Damon needs more supporters of him and his relationship with Elena. JP threw them a bone by saying if they had incredible chemistry maybe something would develop organically...in other words, ...not gonna happen, not in the plans, but never say never...is what she said.
Even in the books I never saw 'love' between Damon and Bonnie. The one time he does kiss her (in the recent fanfic) it's to get her attention. He didn't want to slap her and he knew she'd respond to him kissing her because he knew she was crushing on him. It wasn't a kiss for the sake of kissing. She even made sure and labeled it a 'chaste' kiss. Yet the Bamons hang onto that like a lifeline as if that means love and will happen in the show too. It's ridiculous if you ask me. They are gonna be crushed when nothing comes of this but oh well. It would be show suicide to go there and I don't think they are that stupid. The only way I could ever see it happening is by some supernatural means and that would just be a cheap trick.
Yep I never saw much Bamon romance in the books either, as much as people want to believe that there's some form of triangle between Damon, Elena, and Bonnie. Damon and Elena are the ones who get all the intimate, romantic moments while Bonnie and Damon come off more as a mother hen from Damon's end and a high school crush from Bonnie's end. There's even moments where Bonnie herself states that she can never compare to Elena. Though if anything Damon's dying quote and actions says it all, Bonnie was beside him but he reached over her lap to grab Elena's hand and it was to Elena that he proclaimed he's only ever loved once and wanted her to remember that. But of course most Bamon's pick and choose moments rather look at things as a whole. Along with these season 6 interviews as well.
I really can't wait for this new season to start and all this Bamon hype dies down. As there is really nothing to indicate that the story is headed in a Bamon direction and it wouldn't make sense either.
Oh good, I'm not the only one who didn't see a Bamon romance in the books! I mean they had a unique relationship really only because she was the only one of them besides Elena who even liked him. But I can't imagine Bonnie would ever 'go there' with Damon because of Elena and the same goes with the TV show if they ever even got to 'liking' each other, let alone feeling more than that for one another.
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