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Post by Doppelgänger on Apr 30, 2014 12:16:02 GMT -5
I thought it was time to create this thread given the current speculation that Damon and Bonnie may be trapped together somewhere after this season's finale and if that happens I will be very upset with the writers. I don't like Bamon whatsoever and it makes NO sense. They have had no relationship, not even a friendship. Damon has saved her the same way he saved Jeremy because Elena loves them, so they matter to her and now they matter to him. But there has been no sign of Bamon ever.
Another big reason I never want to see this happen is the fans are Stelenas for the most part. They only just want Damon out of the picture and they don't care how. I can tell this because they hate Damon. They talk about how horrible he is and yet say they want him with Bonnie. Why? If you hate him so much why would you want him with anyone? That's what gives away their true ship.
Thirdly, I don't think they have any chemistry at all. Bonnie just tolerates Damon, always has after she got over wanting to light his ass on fire. She accepted that Elena cared about him so she put him in that friend of my friend spot, the same place she is with Damon, basically. There's nothing here to see as far as I am concerned. Let's not forget Damon saying he'd gladly let the witch die if it came between Elena and her. She's obviously not that high on the totem pole with Damon.
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Post by Doppelgänger on Apr 30, 2014 12:40:37 GMT -5
Example of the Bamon chemistry, as in, there is none...Bonnie always looks at Damon like he annoys her. Exhibit A:
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Post by missmystic on Apr 30, 2014 13:01:02 GMT -5
lol yeah, I don't think anyone watching the show can actually say there has been any lead up for this whatsoever. There is no relationship between Bonnie and Damon, not even a little one. From Damon's point of view, while she was a witch she was a tool to be used when necessary, and that's it. Now she's useless to him entirely. From Bonnie's point of view, Damon was a monster who nearly killed her several times, physically and emotionally abused one of her best friends (Caroline), and was somewhat responsible for her Grams dying. She tolerates him because he matters to Elena, and he tolerates her for the same reason. They hardly even have any scenes together. I can't imagine how they could possibly find a way to make that storyline make sense.
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Post by Doppelgänger on Apr 30, 2014 13:01:37 GMT -5
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Post by Doppelgänger on Apr 30, 2014 13:04:05 GMT -5
lol yeah, I don't think anyone watching the show can actually say there has been any lead up for this whatsoever. There is no relationship between Bonnie and Damon, not even a little one. From Damon's point of view, while she was a witch she was a tool to be used when necessary, and that's it. Now she's useless to him entirely. From Bonnie's point of view, Damon was a monster who nearly killed her several times, physically and emotionally abused one of her best friends (Caroline), and was somewhat responsible for her Grams dying. She tolerates him because he matters to Elena, and he tolerates her for the same reason. They hardly even have any scenes together. I can't imagine how they could possibly find a way to make that storyline make sense. Exactly, the bridges have been burned on both sides of their 'relationship.' Don't forget Damon actually killed and turned her mother, too. Granted it was Stefan who was supposed to do it, but didn't. If they actually tried to make a go of this in the show it would be laughable.
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Post by chrizakathemole on Apr 30, 2014 13:11:10 GMT -5
I'd like it for 1 reason. Damon kills anyone who messes with his gf. It's about time bonnie was safe LOL
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Post by missmystic on Apr 30, 2014 13:12:36 GMT -5
lol yeah, I don't think anyone watching the show can actually say there has been any lead up for this whatsoever. There is no relationship between Bonnie and Damon, not even a little one. From Damon's point of view, while she was a witch she was a tool to be used when necessary, and that's it. Now she's useless to him entirely. From Bonnie's point of view, Damon was a monster who nearly killed her several times, physically and emotionally abused one of her best friends (Caroline), and was somewhat responsible for her Grams dying. She tolerates him because he matters to Elena, and he tolerates her for the same reason. They hardly even have any scenes together. I can't imagine how they could possibly find a way to make that storyline make sense. Exactly, the bridges have been burned on both sides of their 'relationship.' Don't forget Damon actually killed and turned her mother, too. Granted it was Stefan who was supposed to do it, but didn't. If they actually tried to make a go of this in the show it would be laughable. Yes, that's right! Of all the people on the show, I'd say she has the most reason to actually hate him lol. It would be utterly ridiculous to put them together. They think ELENA should have trouble accepting him for the things he's done? HA! I can picture it now: Damon: "Bonnie, I'm done with Elena. She's nothing compared to you. Do you think we have a shot?" Bonnie: "Well, you turned my mom into a vampire, and you got my Grams killed, and you tried to kill me a few times, and when we met you were abusing Caroline, and you've told just about everyone we know that you would let me die in a heartbeat if it meant saving Elena, so .... YES! Absolutely!"
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Post by Doppelgänger on Apr 30, 2014 13:16:30 GMT -5
I'd like it for 1 reason. Damon kills anyone who messes with his gf. It's about time bonnie was safe LOL Pfffttt!
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Post by Doppelgänger on Apr 30, 2014 13:17:34 GMT -5
Exactly, the bridges have been burned on both sides of their 'relationship.' Don't forget Damon actually killed and turned her mother, too. Granted it was Stefan who was supposed to do it, but didn't. If they actually tried to make a go of this in the show it would be laughable. Yes, that's right! Of all the people on the show, I'd say she has the most reason to actually hate him lol. It would be utterly ridiculous to put them together. They think ELENA should have trouble accepting him for the things he's done? HA! I can picture it now: Damon: "Bonnie, I'm done with Elena. She's nothing compared to you. Do you think we have a shot?" Bonnie: "Well, you turned my mom into a vampire, and you got my Grams killed, and you tried to kill me a few times, and when we met you were abusing Caroline, and you've told just about everyone we know that you would let me die in a heartbeat if it meant saving Elena, so .... YES! Absolutely!" I know and as much as I love Damon he treats Bonnie like 'the help.' It's true! "Where's that witch when you need her," is basically all he ever says. Let's throw a witch at it...where's Bonnie? But then again that's Damon... Now she's not a witch so now he'll be all over that Liv chick to fix things. Let's just say Damon's relationship with witches is not so great since they all have wanted to mess with him all his supernatural life. I think he views them as a necessary evil but the enemy none the less, kind of like werewolves, only werewolves are completely useless to him.
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Post by missmystic on Apr 30, 2014 13:39:43 GMT -5
I agree. The way he treats Bonnie, and everyone beside Stefan and Elena, is one of the basic reasons why his relationship with Elena was so powerful in the first place. He was a lone wolf (so to speak lol), he'd been on his own for like 100 years. He didn't trust anyone, and he refused to care about anyone. The only thing he had time for was his commitment to Katherine. Everyone else, and everything else fit into one of 2 categories: Useful, or Useless. And then we saw that somehow, this big bad detached and calculating monster for some reason was different with Elena. He started protecting her. He cared about what she thought. He wanted to be around her. It was powerful because it was special. It's the same reason his relationship with Alaric was powerful. Hardly anyone makes it into Damon's heart. And Bonnie is definitely NOT one of those who has.
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Post by Doppelgänger on Apr 30, 2014 13:46:45 GMT -5
I agree. The way he treats Bonnie, and everyone beside Stefan and Elena, is one of the basic reasons why his relationship with Elena was so powerful in the first place. He was a lone wolf (so to speak lol), he'd been on his own for like 100 years. He didn't trust anyone, and he refused to care about anyone. The only thing he had time for was his commitment to Katherine. Everyone else, and everything else fit into one of 2 categories: Useful, or Useless. And then we saw that somehow, this big bad detached and calculating monster for some reason was different with Elena. He started protecting her. He cared about what she thought. He wanted to be around her. It was powerful because it was special. It's the same reason his relationship with Alaric was powerful. Hardly anyone makes it into Damon's heart. And Bonnie is definitely NOT one of those who has. Exactly! My only concern is that the show had him hug her out of the blue and Elena said some nonsense about Damon loving her if he is so mean to her??? OK then...I hope that isn't supposed to be some foreshadowing of things to come...lol I get how Damon is when he cares and he does care about her but she's way down that totem pole with the rest of the gang, except she HAD been useful to him and now she really won't be unless she does get her witchy powers back or something.
Here's how I think Damon ranks the people he cares about, basically other than the top few it's usefulness after that:
Elena Elena Elena Stefan Jeremy Alaric Enzo Bonnie Liz Caroline Matt Tyler
I'd say Jeremy just beats out Alaric because of Elena. Bonnie is the most useful of the rest of the gang. Matt and Tyler I think he'd let die and stand there watching for the most part...well he did stop Kol from breaking Matt's hand but that was before Vamp!Elena happened and Matt got saved instead of her and he let Tyler go once but only because Caroline was screeching about it...
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Post by chrizakathemole on Apr 30, 2014 17:52:20 GMT -5
I'd like it for 1 reason. Damon kills anyone who messes with his gf. It's about time bonnie was safe LOL Pfffttt! Is it so wrong to want a season where Bonnie is not cannon fodder or everyone's bitch?
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Post by Doppelgänger on Apr 30, 2014 20:46:24 GMT -5
Is it so wrong to want a season where Bonnie is not cannon fodder or everyone's bitch? hahaha!
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Post by beangelic1000 on Apr 30, 2014 21:05:54 GMT -5
I'm going to be very contraversal here. Damon unlike Stefan has the ability to make any relationship that he is in good, so even if they go down that route, I do not think it is going to be as bad as everyone is trying to make out, because of obvious reasons.....
Ian has expressed in several interviews that he wouldn't mind his character exploring the Damon and Bonnie dynamic, and I believe that if they do go down that route it will only be to fit in with the storyline that they have lined up, however, and I stress this......if they do go down that route then it will be only for a temporary time until the reset has been reset
Kat herself has also expressed that it would be interesting to see her character and Ian's character interact on a more romantic level (not exactly how she phrased it) since she nd Ian share the same acting coach (Ivana, not sure of the spelling), therefore, it is not as if it is something that both actors do not want. Plus, I agree with Mole it would be lovely to see Bonnie treated as a person in her own right, especially by Damon so if this leads to a new understanding between Damon and Bonnie then I'm all for it.
I've said this before, Damon has chemistry with all the ladies he's interacted with on the show, DE is my no 1 ship, but even I have to admit, I liked him with Sage, also with Rose, with Rebekah and the newscaster. in order of chemistry I've ranked them, Elena, Rose, Rebekah, Sage and the news lady. So if they do go down the Bamon route it would be interesting to see where they rank in that list.
I never pay any attention to the SE's because I truely, truely believe that DE are going to be endgame, but before that happens everything will be explored. Plus, it doesn't mean the door is open for Stefan, all it will mean is that for the time being we might actually see Elena not in a relationship, infact if Damon is gone, I'd say that Elena could spend some of S6 searching for him.
Therefore, if they are going to cater for every ship they might as well cater for Bamon as well.
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Post by Doppelgänger on Apr 30, 2014 21:56:46 GMT -5
I'm going to be very contraversal here. Damon unlike Stefan has the ability to make any relationship that he is in good, so even if they go down that route, I do not think it is going to be as bad as everyone is trying to make out, because of obvious reasons..... Ian has expressed in several interviews that he wouldn't mind his character exploring the Damon and Bonnie dynamic, and I believe that if they do go down that route it will only be to fit in with the storyline that they have lined up, however, and I stress this......if they do go down that route then it will be only for a temporary time until the reset has been reset Kat herself has also expressed that it would be interesting to see her character and Ian's character interact on a more romantic level (not exactly how she phrased it) since she nd Ian share the same acting coach (Ivana, not sure of the spelling), therefore, it is not as if it is something that both actors do not want. Plus, I agree with Mole it would be lovely to see Bonnie treated as a person in her own right, especially by Damon so if this leads to a new understanding between Damon and Bonnie then I'm all for it. I've said this before, Damon has chemistry with all the ladies he's interacted with on the show, DE is my no 1 ship, but even I have to admit, I liked him with Sage, also with Rose, with Rebekah and the newscaster. in order of chemistry I've ranked them, Elena, Rose, Rebekah, Sage and the news lady. So if they do go down the Bamon route it would be interesting to see where they rank in that list. I never pay any attention to the SE's because I truely, truely believe that DE are going to be endgame, but before that happens everything will be explored. Plus, it doesn't mean the door is open for Stefan, all it will mean is that for the time being we might actually see Elena not in a relationship, infact if Damon is gone, I'd say that Elena could spend some of S6 searching for him. Therefore, if they are going to cater for every ship they might as well cater for Bamon as well. This isn't a debate thread by the way, it's an anti-Bamon thread so feel free to make a debate one if you want to compare sides on the issue and see what other people think. Maybe there are some people like you not adverse to Bamon here who might agree with you. There's a Bamon thread as well...somewhere, probably other ships but this one is strictly for people who do not like and do not want to see this ship.
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