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Post by Sweetluv4DE on Apr 20, 2013 16:03:21 GMT -5
I guarantee they will go Steroline. I just know they will. They made Elena have sex with Damon which just means Elena has no right at all to be mad at Caroline or Stefan if they hook up. They had Elena try and kill Caroline & hurt Caroline's mom. At this point Stefan is ALL FREE GAME for Caroline. Klaus is leaving and Tyler is gone. Who knows if he will come back. It's a open road for these two. AND the friendship building. The dances. The moments they have been having all mean something! Plus many people are now demanding it. JP said she was down for it but wasn't sure yet they would go that route but she said she was very interested! I would be a little concerned with the way Caroline fans are so eager to ship her with just anyone, first it was Matt then Taylor, then we had them becoming fanatical in polls just last week trying to get Karoline to happen and now Stefan. Damon and Elena's chemistry happened naturally it was not forced and somehow I feel with the exception of Matt and Taylor these last two feel forced. For me if I was going to root for someone to have a relationship and be happy it would be Bonnie since Jeremy is gone she needs someone more then Caroline in this instance. Damn I am chatty today.... I am a rare Steroline. I'm not a huge fab of Caroline. Care season 1 & 2 yes. But I have always shipped Steroline since season 1. Now I don't want her with Klaus. Never have never will. It makes me sick to my stomach to think of the two of them together. Actually it revolts me. (Sorry Ruby) Tyler and Caroline... (laughable) never bought it. Never liked it. I was always team witch & wolf. Bonnie & Tyler. Matt I liked. Matt is sweet. For the time being Matt was good for her until Stefan and Elena broke up. Now is Stefan and Caroline's time to shine.
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Post by Ruby2579 on Apr 20, 2013 16:03:33 GMT -5
NO NO NO I WAS A DIE HARD BRUCAS TOOO THATS WHY IM SAYING EVERYTIME I SAW THEIR VIDEOS I WOULD GET MAD BECAUSE I LOVED THEM TOGETHER AND I WISH IT WOULDVE BEEN THEM! OHHHHHHHHH! lol We have something in common.... FALLS DOWN FROM SHOCK ******** ok back up. lol exactly hahahha even in season 5 when brookes mom thought lucas was proposing and brooke said under her breathe that he wouldve been one that she couldve gave her all too i was like dont tease me like that!!!! lol
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2013 16:03:56 GMT -5
No not all grey is opinion. They can be subtle implications. But yes many greys are opinions Yeah but most implications can be deciphered differently. Not everyone will buy an implication as a implication. There are facts and then there are opinions. Unless JP says hey that was a subtle implication that ABC will happen and it did then really we are ALL going to speculate about what that implication was and meant. I guess, but the writer does not always intend for that. True implications will show truth--- post as for your other post. Yes we will always see things differently! But I am glad you guys don't mind letting me see your perspective every once in awhile. edited--- actually your right Ruby I am TVD fan first and I too try to watch the episode without rose colored glasses and only see what I want.
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Post by beangelic1000 on Apr 20, 2013 16:05:34 GMT -5
In a kind of way it was if I was Stefan I would not have been happy with the only reason he was chosen was because of his coming into her life at a time she needed someone after the death of her parents that for her he represented a safe harbour, that is not a good foundation for a relationship. The underlying factor why Elena didn't chose Damon was the fact that chosing him would have met with the greatest disapproval from family and friends, therefore, Stefan was the safest option. Elena allowed fear and her head to rule and not her heart. But that wasnt the only reason. She was lost when her parents died. She was sitting in a cemetary writing in her journal all the time. Stefan came in a time in her life and made her find her way back and grateful to be alive. I think thats a pretty great foundation. Elena didnt choose Damon because her words not mine " no matter what I feel for you, I never unfell for him" She admitted she had feelings for Damon but for her it wasnt enough to let go of Stefan at the time. Thats why now that she has passed that boundary that she has scared to pass, I can see why she would continue to try with Damon once the sirebond is over. She owes herself that and owes him that i guess. Yet she later admitted that she didn't want to return to the being the girl that was to scared to go after what she really wanted and that overrides what she stated before since she is stating that she was too afraid to go after what she really wanted which was Damon. By the time Elena made that statement she was no longer in denial about how things really stood with her deep down, Elena is no longer afraid and that is what we are going to find come the finale
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Post by Sweetluv4DE on Apr 20, 2013 16:06:46 GMT -5
Guys I think she copped out.... No surprise. I'm a DE. You guys don;t think so because you are a SE. I'm realizing that no matter what is on our screen we will ALL interrupt it differently. We have hashed this one in the DE thread for almost a year now. There is no changing our minds. LOL I'm just finding that we will ALWAYS see things differently when it comes to SE vs DE. BUT SEE thats the thing I dont like to be viewed as only SE im TVD fan first and trying to see everything all together not just from a SE perspective. the fact she backs up her choice in the following episode doesnt take on as coping out. Her becoming a vampire just made it harder to put aside her feelings for Damon so she was eventually going to have to choose all over again. Ruby....you do see things in SE and DE when it's about SE and DE. I can give you a million reasons why and what you just wrote will just come back up no matter what I say. It's ok. Because no matter what you say I wont agree because I see it from a DE perspective. One is right. JP will never admit which one. I think she leaves so much stuff up to interpretation purpose. It leaves us all hanging on and gives us all hope.
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Post by Ruby2579 on Apr 20, 2013 16:10:22 GMT -5
BUT SEE thats the thing I dont like to be viewed as only SE im TVD fan first and trying to see everything all together not just from a SE perspective. the fact she backs up her choice in the following episode doesnt take on as coping out. Her becoming a vampire just made it harder to put aside her feelings for Damon so she was eventually going to have to choose all over again. Ruby....you do see things in SE and DE when it's about SE and DE. I can give you a million reasons why and what you just wrote will just come back up no matter what I say. It's ok. Because no matter what you say I wont agree because I see it from a DE perspective. One is right. JP will never admit which one. I think she leaves so much stuff up to interpretation purpose. It leaves us all hanging on and gives us all hope. i guess you are right to an extent lol i guess im just more flexible to seeing Elena explore even if i dont like it lol
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Post by Doppelgänger on Apr 20, 2013 16:11:08 GMT -5
Yeah but you are obviously an SE even if you don't like to admit it so you see things from that perspective. We do not. I felt 4x01 was laughably cheesy as if she was trying to convince herself of it being the right choice. That's how *I* saw it. Plus she dropped hints that it wasn't all that when she said, "We can be together forever...if I want." IF I WANT! Why wouldn't she want if Stefan was really her best choice ever? It's stuff like that they throw in there that makes you question other things that are said. Again grey areas, in this case, leaning more a DE way.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2013 16:20:54 GMT -5
If I want to be a vampire haha dopple she was not implying that she wouldn't want to be with him forever. The whole scene was about her choice to fully transition vampire or not. BUUUT I get I get it.
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Post by Doppelgänger on Apr 20, 2013 16:28:18 GMT -5
If I want to be a vampire haha dopple she was not implying that she wouldn't want to be with him forever. The whole scene was about her choice to fully transition vampire or not. BUUUT I get I get it. Again, your interpretation of that. That scene was after she had already transitioned to a vampire, btw, and they did not know about any cure so as far as she knew she was going to be a vampire forever, so I don't understand your interpretation at all being about transition. That happened right at the very end of episode 4x01.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2013 16:31:21 GMT -5
If I want to be a vampire haha dopple she was not implying that she wouldn't want to be with him forever. The whole scene was about her choice to fully transition vampire or not. BUUUT I get I get it. Again, your interpretation of that. That scene was after she had already transitioned to a vampire, btw, and they did not know about any cure. really? because I swore he gave her the ring "just incase" so I thought it was before she transitioned, but I could be wrong I would have to look it up.
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Post by Ruby2579 on Apr 20, 2013 16:33:12 GMT -5
ahh w.e I guess I see things as SE then shrugs ill take it lol i guess i try not to see it in a bias SE way if that makes more sense.
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Post by Doppelgänger on Apr 20, 2013 16:34:36 GMT -5
I just did look at it and it was after transition at the end of the episode,but yeah, that's why it seemed like Stefan was the iffy subject in that statement to me.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2013 16:36:27 GMT -5
Again, your interpretation of that. That scene was after she had already transitioned to a vampire, btw, and they did not know about any cure. really? because I swore he gave her the ring "just incase" so I thought it was before she transitioned, but I could be wrong I would have to look it up. oh yeah he made it just in case DAH why did she say that lol
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Post by Sweetluv4DE on Apr 20, 2013 16:40:39 GMT -5
Cuz JP hates ALL of us and Elena is wishy washy! LOL
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Post by Doppelgänger on Apr 20, 2013 16:44:11 GMT -5
Yes she does hate all of us. haha! I imagine her sitting there cackling as she writes this stuff that we can interpret both ways.
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