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Post by Sweetluv4DE on Jan 11, 2012 20:45:40 GMT -5
Wow, you're totally right on that. I'd forgotten he said that and now that we know about their past, he had planned to get Stefan on his side all along in some way.
Yeah, and its not like I'm saying that it lessens what Stefan did for his brother- because he had no memory of Klaus, he had no idea, that in a way, he'd already brought Klaus on himself. My point is just that, one way or another, whether through Damon's wolf bite or not, Klaus would have wanted Stefan, and attempted to bring him to his side. It was an easy way to get Stefan without him having to get his hands dirty. He saw an easy opportunity and took it. Klaus planned on getting Stefan on his side all along. You said it, during the sacrifice he could have killed Stefan or put Stefan in Jenna's place but he wouldn't because 'he had plans for him". The only reason why he even saved Damon and the whole thing took place was so that JP/KW could make Damon feel guilt thus making him more human or have more "humanity". So when peeps say this all happened because he saved Damon.... um yes and no! They need to watch the sacrifice again and really think about it. |
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Post by Princess of Darkness on Jan 11, 2012 20:54:02 GMT -5
Yeah, and its not like I'm saying that it lessens what Stefan did for his brother- because he had no memory of Klaus, he had no idea, that in a way, he'd already brought Klaus on himself. My point is just that, one way or another, whether through Damon's wolf bite or not, Klaus would have wanted Stefan, and attempted to bring him to his side. It was an easy way to get Stefan without him having to get his hands dirty. He saw an easy opportunity and took it. Klaus planned on getting Stefan on his side all along. You said it, during the sacrifice he could have killed Stefan or put Stefan in Jenna's place but he wouldn't because 'he had plans for him". The only reason why he even saved Damon and the whole thing took place was so that JP/KW could make Damon feel guilt thus making him more human or have more "humanity". So when peeps say this all happened because he saved Damon.... um yes and no! They need to watch the sacrifice again and really think about it.
Yeah, and I could be off when I say this-- but it could also be why he didn't use Damon in the sacrifice when Damon offered himself up at Alaric's apartment-- or why he didn't just kill him then and there. Katherine told Damon that Klaus said he was "as good as dead," but maybe the real reason he left Damon behind, is because he WANTED Stefan to come looking for the cure.
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Post by Sweetluv4DE on Jan 11, 2012 21:11:41 GMT -5
It was an easy way to get Stefan without him having to get his hands dirty. He saw an easy opportunity and took it. Klaus planned on getting Stefan on his side all along. You said it, during the sacrifice he could have killed Stefan or put Stefan in Jenna's place but he wouldn't because 'he had plans for him". The only reason why he even saved Damon and the whole thing took place was so that JP/KW could make Damon feel guilt thus making him more human or have more "humanity". So when peeps say this all happened because he saved Damon.... um yes and no! They need to watch the sacrifice again and really think about it.
Yeah, and I could be off when I say this-- but it could also be why he didn't use Damon in the sacrifice when Damon offered himself up at Alaric's apartment-- or why he didn't just kill him then and there. Katherine told Damon that Klaus said he was "as good as dead," but maybe the real reason he left Damon behind, is because he WANTED Stefan to come looking for the cure.
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Post by Doppelgänger on Jan 11, 2012 23:46:39 GMT -5
Now that you've said it, it seems so obvious. Of course Klaus knew he was the cure and they'd come to him for it. I forgot Klaus knew about the bite.
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Post by pixiestyx on Jan 12, 2012 2:26:51 GMT -5
 I had a super long post that just somehow disappeared.  Ugh, it's too late for me to re-do it so I'll just do a part of it. I've actually thought of doing this thread as well because I'm surprised at the amont hate for Elena. Some of this has already been said but: I don't get questioning Elena's loyalty. She and Stefan dated for less than a year. First day of school in S3 Elena says it's been a year since they met. At that point Stefan had been gone what, 3 months? When is homecoming? October? So for a guy she dated for 8-9 months, she spent nearly 5 months looking for him and trying to find a way to bring him back to her. That's pretty freaking loyal. I never thought about the Klaus part in that way before. But he did say that he had plans for Stefan. Which means, one way or another this would have happened anyway.
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Post by Doppelgänger on Jan 12, 2012 4:15:34 GMT -5
Exactly...she went above and beyond in my opinion to the point that I was frustrated with her. Now, it seems to me, and this is just my opinion, but when she told Stefan she wanted to grow up, have kids, etc that it meant to me that she wasn't able to fully commit to him. I mean think about it. He can NEVER give her that. So, either she abandons that because of love or the relationship is doomed and is not the epic thing they both thought it was. I've thought this ever since she said it.
This was a foreshadowing of her true feelings and commitment to the relationship. This doesn't mean that she will feel this way about all vampires, but as far as Stefan goes, she is unwilling to give it up for him and as far as HE is concerned, I've always felt a somewhat shallow connection from him to her. He felt it was best to hide the truth from her rather than be honest, right from the beginning and now, he seems all too willing to give her up.
Some might disagree, but that's what I see. True love does not work that way. True love is moving heaven and earth to be with someone and that person becoming the center of your universe.
True love is sacrifice and commitment and giving yourself and your desires up for someone else. If you love a vampire and you know he can't give you children wouldn't that change your views or make you willing to sacrifice something you want for something you want more? Him? The same goes for Stefan in his lust for revenge. What does he want more? It seems we know the answer for both of them to this question.
Given all of that, don't you think it's time to call a spade a spade and let it end? I do and that's what I see. I can't even believe that when she said she wanted to grow up and have kids it didn't register with him that it meant they wouldn't be together forever, but obviously it did.
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Post by Princess of Darkness on Jan 12, 2012 7:38:17 GMT -5
Exactly...she went above and beyond in my opinion to the point that I was frustrated with her. Now, it seems to me, and this is just my opinion, but when she told Stefan she wanted to grow up, have kids, etc that it meant to me that she wasn't able to fully commit to him. I mean think about it. He can NEVER give her that. So, either she abandons that because of love or the relationship is doomed and is not the epic thing they both thought it was. I've thought this ever since she said it. This was a foreshadowing of her true feelings and commitment to the relationship. This doesn't mean that she will feel this way about all vampires, but as far as Stefan goes, she is unwilling to give it up for him and as far as HE is concerned, I've always felt a somewhat shallow connection from him to her. He felt it was best to hide the truth from her rather than be honest, right from the beginning and now, he seems all too willing to give her up. Some might disagree, but that's what I see. True love does not work that way. True love is moving heaven and earth to be with someone and that person becoming the center of your universe.
True love is sacrifice and commitment and giving yourself and your desires up for someone else. If you love a vampire and you know he can't give you children wouldn't that change your views or make you willing to sacrifice something you want for something you want more? Him? The same goes for Stefan in his lust for revenge. What does he want more? It seems we know the answer for both of them to this question. Given all of that, don't you think it's time to call a spade a spade and let it end? I do and that's what I see. I can't even believe that when she said she wanted to grow up and have kids it didn't register with him that it meant they wouldn't be together forever, but obviously it did.
I completely agree with everything, especially the bolded parts. I also want to point out that Elena had come to the conclusion that she wasn't sure she "really knew what love was"-- then to me seemed like she was like- oh god, I just said that out loud, in front of him-- QUICK BACKTRACK!!--- "but I know I love you, Stefan!"  
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Post by Doppelgänger on Jan 12, 2012 8:13:36 GMT -5
Well maybe she doesn't know what love is because she's been trying to love the wrong guy. That's kind of how I tend to look at it. I mean I tried out love when I was really young and I thought I knew what it was but as it turned out, I was just experimenting. Those are the kinds of things we learn as we gain experience in life. When you are really in love, it's a different thing and what you're willing to do for that kind of love is different. So, am I daring to say that maybe SE isn't an epic kind of love? Well based upon her own admissions, yeah, I'm daring to say that. She isn't willing to commit to it fully and he isn't willing to commit to it fully. I guess that was my point. If they can call DE a speed bump then I can call SE not epic enough for her to be willing to spend her life/afterlife with Stefan, just as we might not marry the first guy we 'loved' because it didn't feel right/we didn't feel ready for such a commitment. Sometimes I wonder if the writers even realize the kind of love they have set up isn't epic in description or action. She's basically told him he's OK for now but he's not OK forever. That should be his clue. But that doesn't mean that Damon isn't going to be her epic love. That remains to be seen. But, nobody is willing to bite and come tell us why she's to blame for everything going south in the SE relationship so it did just become a rant thread but still better it's here in this section. |
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Post by orchid05 on Jan 12, 2012 11:25:55 GMT -5
Hi guys   Elena has never been my favorite character on this show. And i find it hard to like her when i don't know about her feelings. I'm not talking about what she might say in a particular situation but about what she feels on a daily basis. I can't really relate to her because i feel like i don't know her. It's better this season though. She's so overwhelmed right now that i hope i'll get a glimpse of who she really is. I understand your point of view about her maybe not loving the right guy but i also think that to embrace a great love, you have to be ready for it and i don't think SE going down or what both might have said as a sign of their non epicnes  I immediately fell for SE because their relationship felt so natural. Like it was supposed to happen, like they were meant to be. This is true love for me. But love isn't an easy thing even when you've found your true love, and if you have issues with yourself you may not be able to commit fully. That doesn't mean this person is not the love of your life. Free your mind and the rest will follow as the song says Stefan definitely has to figure things out, and to do so he has to go to the core of it which is obviously his vampire nature. As for Elena, she's young and has to come to terms with her childhood and what she wants to do with her life. Sometimes, love isn't the answer to everything and when thoses issues pop out, it doesn't make a love story any less beautiful or shallow. A great true love can evolve even through distance or break ups. Look at Chuck and Blair on GG, or Peyton and Lucas on OTH ... I hate what Elena did more than i hate her actually. I knew the show was about a love triangle before i started watching it and i knew it was coming but i can't get over the brother thing. It doesn't fit in my tv world. I've been trying to understand her and i guess i wanted her to be alone, not necessarily waiting for Stefan but alone trying to figure things out. The kiss buggued me because it happened after she knew Stefan hasn't betrayed them by saving Klaus  In other circumstances, i wouldn't have been so annoyed by it. She didn't kiss him first i know and about that i was so disappointed in Damon. I've always loved both brothers even if Stefan has been and always will be my favorite. The kiss was an impulsive move, all Damon actually but now it's like he needs Stefan to remain the bad guy so that he won't feel as guilty about being in love with Elena. That, i can't take. I don't get why he struggles so hard against whatever feelings he may have towards his brother. I strongly love SE but i love Defan just as much, and it was hard for me to watch and hear this. In the end and if it comes to this, as much as i love SE, i'd rather see Elena out of the picture if it means that the brothers could be together and get along. |
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Post by Sweetluv4DE on Jan 12, 2012 12:12:31 GMT -5
Hi guys Elena has never been my favorite character on this show. And i find it hard to like her when i don't know about her feelings. I'm not talking about what she might say in a particular situation but about what she feels on a daily basis. I can't really relate to her because i feel like i don't know her. It's better this season though. She's so overwhelmed right now that i hope i'll get a glimpse of who she really is. I understand your point of view about her maybe not loving the right guy but i also think that to embrace a great love, you have to be ready for it and i don't think SE going down or what both might have said as a sign of their non epicnes I immediately fell for SE because their relationship felt so natural. Like it was supposed to happen, like they were meant to be. This is true love for me. But love isn't an easy thing even when you've found your true love, and if you have issues with yourself you may not be able to commit fully. That doesn't mean this person is not the love of your life. Free your mind and the rest will follow as the song says Stefan definitely has to figure things out, and to do so he has to go to the core of it which is obviously his vampire nature. As for Elena, she's young and has to come to terms with her childhood and what she wants to do with her life. Sometimes, love isn't the answer to everything and when thoses issues pop out, it doesn't make a love story any less beautiful or shallow. A great true love can evolve even through distance or break ups. Look at Chuck and Blair on GG, or Peyton and Lucas on OTH ... I hate what Elena did more than i hate her actually. I knew the show was about a love triangle before i started watching it and i knew it was coming but i can't get over the brother thing. It doesn't fit in my tv world. I've been trying to understand her and i guess i wanted her to be alone, not necessarily waiting for Stefan but alone trying to figure things out. The kiss buggued me because it happened after she knew Stefan hasn't betrayed them by saving Klaus In other circumstances, i wouldn't have been so annoyed by it. She didn't kiss him first i know and about that i was so disappointed in Damon. I've always loved both brothers even if Stefan has been and always will be my favorite. The kiss was an impulsive move, all Damon actually but now it's like he needs Stefan to remain the bad guy so that he won't feel as guilty about being in love with Elena. That, i can't take. I don't get why he struggles so hard against whatever feelings he may have towards his brother. I strongly love SE but i love Defan just as much, and it was hard for me to watch and hear this. In the end and if it comes to this, as much as i love SE, i'd rather see Elena out of the picture if it means that the brothers could be together and get along. I think you wrote that beautifully from your perspective and feelings. Thanks for coming in and sharing your thoughts.... I do however want to address the bolded and underlined if you don't mind because I see it differently. Elena found out that yes Stefan did not betray them but what does that mean? It means Stefan can control his feelings? It means Stefan may not be compelled? It means good things right? Wrong! It means that Stefan was able to fight for his brother but Stefan wont fight for Elena's? It means just when she thought he was at his worst telling her "it's not his problem" he really could humanly do something but wouldn't! It means that he really has given up on her. It's not Klaus.... it's not compulsion.... it's revenge! Elena's heart probably broke and what should have been a happy thought was probably the saddest thing she heard all day. He could help her but he chose not to. STEFAN not Klaus's minion... I personally think it would have been easier for Elena to take his lack of consideration for everyone he loves and his unwillingness to give back the coffins to keep everyone safe if he had still been compelled. Not Stefan. Not her Stefan. Who she thought Stefan was.  Prob broke her heart! And Damon I think Damon is just frustrated. One min he wants to be with Elena and doesn't care but then he does and he compels her. Then he almost loses her to then almost dying and her kissing him. Then his brother goes out and saves him thus forcing the two of them to not only team up and get closer but forcing him to take care of her since Stefan said that is what he wanted. Damon to take her to Mystic and keep her there knowing Damon was in love with Elena. I don't find that fair. So he has to watch over her forever? At this point no one knew if Stefan would EVER come back. Stefan didn't think he would. Klaus was to hold him much longer than he did. Now his brother turns into the ripper douche "who I loved at times" and no one knew if he'd ever come back again!! More heart and mind games. Then Stefan betrays them and then he finds out Stefan has the coffins and is willing to sacrifice them all again! Then he finds out that Stefan didn't betray them. That is a cluster F#@k of emotions excuse me but it's the best word I could find for Damon to be going through. I also think both brother view their other brother and their love life differently than most! Remember they went through this with Kat. It's nothing new for them. And as I said before the bros were meant to know Kat, love Kat, get changed by Kat, become vampires, wait 100 years and BOTH meet and protect the Doppelganger! Without both brothers Elena would be dead! BOTH were destined to find her.. to love her... to protect her. It's not all Stefan because he saw her first. I think it was destiny! |
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Post by Slash on Jan 12, 2012 12:33:18 GMT -5
I don't think it's exactly fair to blame Stefan for not helping Elena protect Jeremy (might be an unpopular opinion) with all that's going on and his state of mind currently. Stefan is in hiding from Klaus (might change tonight) and to even show up to protect Jeremy is a liability to whatever grand scheme Stefan, Katherine and the Dead Witches have going on. It's a plan they're willing to go through with, even if it means bringing Klaus and his Hybrids down on the friends in MF and even Damon, which I'm more than sure both Stefan & Katherine knew would happen when they started the plan and who they just blew a chance in killing Klaus to protect. I think they're ready for collateral in some aspects and are even willing to sit by and watch/let things happen. Now you have Damon pulled into the fold with the plan and he's not supposed to get Elena involved either (I think he'll botch this though in both regards of sitting by if need be and getting Elena involved).
But as a few others have pointed out, this is the other half of Stefan that Elena was oblivious to. The other half of Stefan that was mentioned to her and that Damon tried to shield her from but she said "No, it's Stefan, I'm OK with it, I love him, etc.". Not carrying that same opinion anymore, are you Elena? The other Stefan is in there but what we've mentioned in the other Stefan thread, neither Stefan likes the other at all and really the only common quality that overlaps between the 2 is their love for Damon.
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Post by Princess of Darkness on Jan 12, 2012 12:53:32 GMT -5
Hi guys Elena has never been my favorite character on this show. And i find it hard to like her when i don't know about her feelings. I'm not talking about what she might say in a particular situation but about what she feels on a daily basis. I can't really relate to her because i feel like i don't know her. It's better this season though. She's so overwhelmed right now that i hope i'll get a glimpse of who she really is. I understand your point of view about her maybe not loving the right guy but i also think that to embrace a great love, you have to be ready for it and i don't think SE going down or what both might have said as a sign of their non epicnes I immediately fell for SE because their relationship felt so natural. Like it was supposed to happen, like they were meant to be. This is true love for me. But love isn't an easy thing even when you've found your true love, and if you have issues with yourself you may not be able to commit fully. That doesn't mean this person is not the love of your life. Free your mind and the rest will follow as the song says Stefan definitely has to figure things out, and to do so he has to go to the core of it which is obviously his vampire nature. As for Elena, she's young and has to come to terms with her childhood and what she wants to do with her life. Sometimes, love isn't the answer to everything and when thoses issues pop out, it doesn't make a love story any less beautiful or shallow. A great true love can evolve even through distance or break ups. Look at Chuck and Blair on GG, or Peyton and Lucas on OTH ... I hate what Elena did more than i hate her actually. I knew the show was about a love triangle before i started watching it and i knew it was coming but i can't get over the brother thing. It doesn't fit in my tv world. I've been trying to understand her and i guess i wanted her to be alone, not necessarily waiting for Stefan but alone trying to figure things out. The kiss buggued me because it happened after she knew Stefan hasn't betrayed them by saving Klaus In other circumstances, i wouldn't have been so annoyed by it. She didn't kiss him first i know and about that i was so disappointed in Damon. I've always loved both brothers even if Stefan has been and always will be my favorite. The kiss was an impulsive move, all Damon actually but now it's like he needs Stefan to remain the bad guy so that he won't feel as guilty about being in love with Elena. That, i can't take. I don't get why he struggles so hard against whatever feelings he may have towards his brother. I strongly love SE but i love Defan just as much, and it was hard for me to watch and hear this. In the end and if it comes to this, as much as i love SE, i'd rather see Elena out of the picture if it means that the brothers could be together and get along. I think you wrote that beautifully from your perspective and feelings. Thanks for coming in and sharing your thoughts.... I do however want to address the bolded and underlined if you don't mind because I see it differently. Elena found out that yes Stefan did not betray them but what does that mean? It means Stefan can control his feelings? It means Stefan may not be compelled? It means good things right? Wrong! It means that Stefan was able to fight for his brother but Stefan wont fight for Elena's? It means just when she thought he was at his worst telling her "it's not his problem" he really could humanly do something but wouldn't! It means that he really has given up on her. It's not Klaus.... it's not compulsion.... it's revenge! Elena's heart probably broke and what should have been a happy thought was probably the saddest thing she heard all day. He could help her but he chose not to. STEFAN not Klaus's minion...
I personally think it would have been easier for Elena to take his lack of consideration for everyone he loves and his unwillingness to give back the coffins to keep everyone safe if he had still been compelled. Not Stefan. Not her Stefan. Who she thought Stefan was. Prob broke her heart!And Damon I think Damon is just frustrated. One min he wants to be with Elena and doesn't care but then he does and he compels her. Then he almost loses her to then almost dying and her kissing him. Then his brother goes out and saves him thus forcing the two of them to not only team up and get closer but forcing him to take care of her since Stefan said that is what he wanted. Damon to take her to Mystic and keep her there knowing Damon was in love with Elena. I don't find that fair. So he has to watch over her forever? At this point no one knew if Stefan would EVER come back. Stefan didn't think he would. Klaus was to hold him much longer than he did. Now his brother turns into the ripper douche "who I loved at times" and no one knew if he'd ever come back again!! More heart and mind games. Then Stefan betrays them and then he finds out Stefan has the coffins and is willing to sacrifice them all again! Then he finds out that Stefan didn't betray them.
That is a cluster F#@k of emotions excuse me but it's the best word I could find for Damon to be going through. I also think both brother view their other brother and their love life differently than most! Remember they went through this with Kat. It's nothing new for them. And as I said before the bros were meant to know Kat, love Kat, get changed by Kat, become vampires, wait 100 years and BOTH meet and protect the Doppelganger! Without both brothers Elena would be dead! BOTH were destined to find her.. to love her... to protect her. It's not all Stefan because he saw her first. I think it was destiny!
Beautifully written, I think you made so many great points and you did it so well! 
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Post by Sweetluv4DE on Jan 12, 2012 12:53:35 GMT -5
I don't think it's exactly fair to blame Stefan for not helping Elena protect Jeremy (might be an unpopular opinion) with all that's going on and his state of mind currently. Stefan is in hiding from Klaus (might change tonight) and to even show up to protect Jeremy is a liability to whatever grand scheme Stefan, Katherine and the Dead Witches have going on. It's a plan they're willing to go through with, even if it means bringing Klaus and his Hybrids down on the friends in MF and even Damon, which I'm more than sure both Stefan & Katherine knew would happen when they started the plan and who they just blew a chance in killing Klaus to protect. I think they're ready for collateral in some aspects and are even willing to sit by and watch/let things happen. Now you have Damon pulled into the fold with the plan and he's not supposed to get Elena involved either (I think he'll botch this though in both regards of sitting by if need be and getting Elena involved). But as a few others have pointed out, this is the other half of Stefan that Elena was oblivious to. The other half of Stefan that was mentioned to her and that Damon tried to shield her from but she said "No, it's Stefan, I'm OK with it, I love him, etc.". Not carrying that same opinion anymore, are you Elena? The other Stefan is in there but what we've mentioned in the other Stefan thread, neither Stefan likes the other at all and really the only common quality that overlaps between the 2 is their love for Damon. This plan to steal coffins is as bad as the ritual plan!! People will be endangered and people will die! I look at them the same. Jer almost died! Hell Alaric almost did too! I didn't expect Stefan to come out of hiding but i did expect him to try and figure something out when it came to the coffins or not steal them at ALL! Stupidest plan on the planet if you ask me. Even dumber than Elena's ritual plan! He just said "it's not my problem". There was nothing but coldness. That's my problem and that is why I'm defending Elena! |
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Post by Sweetluv4DE on Jan 12, 2012 12:56:51 GMT -5
I think you wrote that beautifully from your perspective and feelings. Thanks for coming in and sharing your thoughts.... I do however want to address the bolded and underlined if you don't mind because I see it differently. Elena found out that yes Stefan did not betray them but what does that mean? It means Stefan can control his feelings? It means Stefan may not be compelled? It means good things right? Wrong! It means that Stefan was able to fight for his brother but Stefan wont fight for Elena's? It means just when she thought he was at his worst telling her "it's not his problem" he really could humanly do something but wouldn't! It means that he really has given up on her. It's not Klaus.... it's not compulsion.... it's revenge! Elena's heart probably broke and what should have been a happy thought was probably the saddest thing she heard all day. He could help her but he chose not to. STEFAN not Klaus's minion...
I personally think it would have been easier for Elena to take his lack of consideration for everyone he loves and his unwillingness to give back the coffins to keep everyone safe if he had still been compelled. Not Stefan. Not her Stefan. Who she thought Stefan was. Prob broke her heart!And Damon I think Damon is just frustrated. One min he wants to be with Elena and doesn't care but then he does and he compels her. Then he almost loses her to then almost dying and her kissing him. Then his brother goes out and saves him thus forcing the two of them to not only team up and get closer but forcing him to take care of her since Stefan said that is what he wanted. Damon to take her to Mystic and keep her there knowing Damon was in love with Elena. I don't find that fair. So he has to watch over her forever? At this point no one knew if Stefan would EVER come back. Stefan didn't think he would. Klaus was to hold him much longer than he did. Now his brother turns into the ripper douche "who I loved at times" and no one knew if he'd ever come back again!! More heart and mind games. Then Stefan betrays them and then he finds out Stefan has the coffins and is willing to sacrifice them all again! Then he finds out that Stefan didn't betray them.
That is a cluster F#@k of emotions excuse me but it's the best word I could find for Damon to be going through. I also think both brother view their other brother and their love life differently than most! Remember they went through this with Kat. It's nothing new for them. And as I said before the bros were meant to know Kat, love Kat, get changed by Kat, become vampires, wait 100 years and BOTH meet and protect the Doppelganger! Without both brothers Elena would be dead! BOTH were destined to find her.. to love her... to protect her. It's not all Stefan because he saw her first. I think it was destiny!
Beautifully written, I think you made so many great points and you did it so well!
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Post by Princess of Darkness on Jan 12, 2012 12:57:19 GMT -5
Hi guys Elena has never been my favorite character on this show. And i find it hard to like her when i don't know about her feelings. I'm not talking about what she might say in a particular situation but about what she feels on a daily basis. I can't really relate to her because i feel like i don't know her. It's better this season though. She's so overwhelmed right now that i hope i'll get a glimpse of who she really is. >>>> Plec teases that a scene at the end of the episode will shed a lot of light on Elena's state of mind: "There's a nice scene at the end of the episode where Elena reflects where she is and how she's gotten there and who she used to be versus who she is now. It's a really nice moment for her that will let the audience a little bit inside her head on how she feels about everything." <<<<
Read more: www.eonline.com/news/watch_with_kristin/vampire_diaries_boss_dishes_on_tonights/285852#ixzz1jGfdWXyS
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In other circumstances, i wouldn't have been so annoyed by it. She didn't kiss him first i know and about that i was so disappointed in Damon. I've always loved both brothers even if Stefan has been and always will be my favorite. The kiss was an impulsive move, all Damon actually but now it's like he needs Stefan to remain the bad guy so that he won't feel as guilty about being in love with Elena. That, i can't take. I don't get why he struggles so hard against whatever feelings he may have towards his brother. I strongly love SE but i love Defan just as much, and it was hard for me to watch and hear this.
