The Anti-Stefan Thread

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6. Constantly puts his brother down, especially if Damon's having a happy moment, and thinks he is better than him. "I'm the good brother." In what universe is being a Ripper, good? One thing I love about Klaus is he is always giving Stefan a reality check on that, Ripppppah! Stefan can't imagine away that part of himself, can he? All I want is for him to admit he's no better than anyone else and quite possibly much worse than his brother and contritely live that way from then on, treating his brother 1000 times better, respecting him and taking his advice on how to live as a vampire.

7. Forced Damon to turn by sticking fresh blood in his face because he didn't want to be alone. Can we say, selfish? This is a word some Stefan fans refuse to acknowledge about their hero.

8. While on the subject, he is very introspective (read again, selfish) worrying most about how things impact him. He uses I and me statement 99% of the time. Some very recent examples: "How many ways are you going to rip my heart out?" “She’s not supposed to be this person. I don’t want her to be.” (To hell with what Elena and Damon think, feel, want, right Stefan?)

9. Threatened to kill Elena in the worst possible way, the way her parents died, then fed her his blood after chastising Damon for doing it to save her life, previously. (Hypocrite alert!)

10. Emotionally abused Elena by telling her that she wasn't his problem anymore, that Jeremy wasn't his concern, that she was pathetic. That was his mouth moving and even though he was a Ripper, part of the time, that doesn't give him a free pass to being an asshole. The Ripper is part of him, not separate. So when we look at Stefan as a whole that is who he is. It can't be separated. He doesn't get a 'get out of jail free' card simply because he was in Ripper mode at the time. The fact that he IS the Ripper should give anyone pause when considering wanting to have anything to do with him.

11. Very recently killed a hybrid whose sire bond was broken and who helped him get to Elena, who helped him (and nobody said boo about this. Does this sound like something a 'good' person would do?)

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12. He gave Elena a necklace he found on the floor and made it seem like it was special to him *snort* Conversely, Damon gave the necklace back to her numerous times to show he respected her love for Stefan and knew it was important to her.

13. Stefan: You know, you can be in love with Elena all you want, if it means that you’ll protect her. But I have the one thing that you never will.
Damon: Oh ya…what’s that?
Stefan: Her respect.

This, all by itself shows how truly awful Stefan is, how truly selfish he is and how much he hates his brother and thinks he's better than him and this is but one example of the kind of put downs he's famous for when it comes to Damon. No wonder Damon has so little self esteem and believes he isn't as good as Stefan. That's all he's ever heard from the brother that means so much to him.

14. Turned a man, then forced Jeremy to kill him under threat of letting him loose on Jeremy, possibly killing Jeremy. (Elena has no idea this happened)

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Now THIS is good. Stefan's lying, screwed up behavior in picture proof:


(He kept this info from Elena)


(He didn't care about her only living relative)


(He cared more about revenge then the supposed love of his life)






(He's willing to sacrifice Jeremy AGAIN for what he wants. Hell, he's willing to sacrifice damn near anyone for what he wants! I really don't doubt that.)

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15. In 3x20 he uses Elena's emotional vulnerability to reassert himself back into her life, claiming she has him, the guy who left her for months on end, told her she was pathetic and a blood bag, said he didn't care what she thought about him anymore and that she and Jeremy were no longer his problems. Yeah...she has him alright. He also made the entire thing ABOUT him and how much he lost when he left with Klaus. Please, get over yourself! She just lost someone she considered a parental figure when she has NONE. This isn't about you and your man pain Stefan. It's about HER and her pain right now. But he couldn't for one minute let it be about someone else.

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16. When she told him she kissed Damon, suddenly he was interested in her again after having just told her he didn't care what she thought. But then suddenly he cares again? Why? Because he couldn't let his brother win, not because he really did change his mind.

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More anti-Stefan thoughts. I just can't seem to stop myself. But really, he was just so awful this past episode and it brought to mind so many other times when he just seemed like he didn't care enough about Elena to stick around. Then I found this.

On Tumblr: b1beloty


When it's real... you know.

“When it’s real, you can’t walk away” is initially said by Lexi, who wanted to convince Elena to start relationship with Stefan in 1x08. Was it real then?

0. 1x02 - “Set me free, leave me be”

1. 1x10 - Stefan was going to walk away from Elena and he would have walked away if she hadn’t stopped him

2. 1x20 - Stefan was going to “walk away” from her, he chose to die because he couldn’t live with himself anymore. His love for Elena is not enough

3. 2x20 - Stefan let Elena kill herself. And, NO, it is NOT about making her own decision. When somebody we love, is trying to commit suicide, we DON’T say “ok, it’s your decision and I respect that”

4. 2x22 - Stefan is walking away from Elena. Yes, you’re right - it was to save Damon and it was quite precious, but still - he walked away

5. 3x03 - Stefan didn’t let Elena and Damon to save him, and he ISN’T campelled yet. He rejected Elena, he hurt her and walked away

6. 3x09 - Elena is ready to let Stefan go, or claim that she is ready, whatever…

7. 3x10 - NOT COMPELLED Stefan is walking away from Elena and her problems. He doesn’t give a s*** about Jeremy’s safety

8. 3x11 - Stefan is abusing Elena and claiming that “destroing Klaus is all he has left”. He is “trying to make her hate him” and he is walking away from her in the most brutal way he can.

9. 3x22 - Stefan is letting Elena die, just because he is afraid that she is going to hate him, if he won’t listen. He is literally walking away, or… swimming away… whatever

10. 4x02-4x04 - Stefan is walking away from Elena’s problems, pretending that everything will be perfect if they drink some champagne (yeah!)

11. 4x10 - Stefan is hitting his new low. He still believes that SB is affecting Elena’s feelings (he admitted it when he was talking with Rebekah about the cure). Elena was compelled to say the truth and just can’t not to say the things she said. And he wants to have all his memories about her to be erased. Yes, I’m serious - he believe that SB affects her, that her feelings for Damon are not true, that Damon basically used her and she is a victim in this situation and AT THE SAME TIME he wants to forget about her, or maybe even hate her. It’s not longer “walking away”. It is “my relationship with you means nothing to me. I don’t care if it’s your fault or not. I would rather not to know you at all”

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I was trying to think of who I would ship Stefan with and quite honestly there is nobody I would wish him upon except maybe Klaus cause Klaus would give him a good hard in the and straighten him right out. Stefan can be Klaus' little . Maybe they can do a Klaus, Caroline, Stefan love triangle.

Klefan for the win!!!

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Jan 19, 2013 18:58:23 GMT -5 Doppelgänger said:

I was trying to think of who I would ship Stefan with and quite honestly there is nobody I would wish him upon except maybe Klaus cause Klaus would give him a good hard in the and straighten him right out. Stefan can be Klaus' little . Maybe they can do a Klaus, Caroline, Stefan love triangle.

Klefan for the win!!!

Ship the real Defan ship! DEATH + STEFAN

Every time I think Stefan can't get any lower, he does. It's amazing really.

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I know and I wonder if he's going to turn into tantrum baby or if he's actually going to improve himself this time. He finally got his comeuppance. Let's see what he does with it.

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Super Bored so I wanted to post some funny but yet TRUE GIFS!








Maybe this belongs in an Anti SE thread but we don't have one and it's too good to waste

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haha...all good ones. Oh Stefan, will he ever learn?

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THIS...from Tumblr:

From: hookchosetheswangirl


I’m probably gonna get s*** for tagging this, but whatever, this is a PSA and I genuinely want Stelena shippers/Stefan stans to see it.

When you guys can come up with a reason to hate Damon or his relationship with Elena that isn’t from the first two seasons and thus disregarding a season and a half of their development, we might begin to take you seriously. Until then, no dice.

(Also, anyone who tries to s*** shame Elena or her sexual practices with Damon will be summarily keelhauled, cause that s*** ain’t cool.)

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And this, and there's about a million more really good DE posts out there right now fighting the good fight and all of which I agree with! So tired of seeing Damon's long ago past being used to try to slam him now when he has changed so much...find something new cause I ain't fighting old fights for the hundredth time again.

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I just saw a gifset on my dash comparing Damon and Stefan and I can’t with it. Apparently Damon’s more selfish because he killed Jeremy after Elena rejected him. Um, that was in 2x01 and he has changed a lot since then. And then they go on to say that Stefan cares for other people and Damon doesn’t. Yeah, that’s why Damon loves Elena no matter what, helped her while she was going through her transition instead of trying to “fix her”, told her to leave him because he wanted their love to be real instead of caused by a sire bond, and would’ve saved her if he had been there when Rebekah ran her & Matt off Wickery Bridge. Also, he saved her when she had those hallucinations after killing the hunter. Meanwhile, all Stefan has cared about lately is fixing Elena instead of helping her adjust to being a Vampire.

So yeah, don’t try to tell me that Damon is more selfish and doesn’t care for others when he clearly cares for Elena (he willingly sent her away from him because he thought that was what’s best for her). And don’t try to tell me that Stefan isn’t selfish. He’s selfish because he wants the old Elena back and the ideal relationship that they used to have.

OK, that rant ended up being longer than I thought it would but those Stefan stans get annoying sometimes.

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At this point I think if some of Stefan's fans weren't such asses I would want more for him but right now I want him to have to watch DE and suffer and cry in his corner because I just don't care about that character at all. He's earned it in my opinion for all the s*** he's said to Damon over the years, the ways he undermined and used him, said nasty things to him to hurt him just for the heck of it and kept DE apart with the things he told Elena about Damon which weren't true. He's a jerk and he deserves to live with his jerky self alone and self pitying for all of eternity. He earned their crappy fanbase that can't even get a third of the fans and/or votes for anything in any given poll, you know why, because he sucks!

There I feel better now....lol

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Jan 21, 2013 0:36:26 GMT -5 Doppelgänger said:

At this point I think if Stefan's fans weren't such asses.....He earned their crappy fanbase that can't even get a third of the fans and/or votes for anything in any given poll

I haven't been on here for months so I don't know what changed but.....Was the really necessary? I mean really. The context of these sentences is def. a personal attack to Stefan fans (not Stefan). But I'm guessing that this will be a case of twisting one's words.

Well I guess this would be my fault for coming into this thread, right?!