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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2013 23:20:20 GMT -5
I don't get why he almost let Caroline die to spite Tyler if he's truly supposed to be in love in love with her, even if he thought in that moment that she hated him forever and would never give him a chance (hmmmm... I WONDER WHY SHE MIGHT FEEL THAT WAY?). I know for a fact that neither Damon or Stefan would ever do anything remotely like that to Elena no matter what she said to them and no matter if she was definitely never going to be with either one of them again... I definitely thought of Caroline just saying all of that to get him to cure her. However, I think it was more like her being forced to say all of that in an attempt to save herself rather than just making it all up, even if she embellished her feelings about him a little. I think she may have lied about wishing he could change though or she could forget his misdeeds so they might have a chance...hence the embellishment. I agree but even more so, if he was in love her she should have never been in that situation in the first place. If Caroline just laid there and didn't say anything, would he have still saved her? I think at this point in the game, being his distraction for most plans. Caroline knows what to say to Klaus. It's just the icing on the cake that Klaus just had a similar conversation with Damon in 4x12. |
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Post by Sweetluv4DE on Feb 8, 2013 3:15:56 GMT -5
I honestly think they did that to make klaus more relatable to show he can be the anti hero since he's getting his new show. They want him to be likeable so you root for him on the originals spinoff. I feel like they had been doing this since these two started flirting. To show a soft, likable more humanity side to klaus so that when this damn spinoff happens people want the best for him despite the fact that he murdered our beloved characters!!!
I don't buy their horse drawing, dress buying, hummingbird crap they throw at us to prove klaroline has potential! It's all a gimmick to make us see a more soft relatable side to klaus so we will watch that damn show! When I was watching her stupid "I know you love me" crap I was thinking ok this is just dumb. The big bad is getting a spinoff so lets make everyone like him before he goes so people will watch.
I don't know! That's how I saw it at least.
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Post by Doppelgänger on Feb 8, 2013 8:29:06 GMT -5
I love Joseph Morgan as the villian, though. I don't think it works to try to make him an anti-hero or likeable. They've managed to make me feel bad for him a couple of times but he always does something evil again so I don't anymore. But talk about glaring hypocrisy with Caroline, seeing something good in Klaus but not Damon, never Damon. wth? I don't know how they can ruin her more but this Klaroline stuff is heading that direction. I don't really even get where they think they are going with this. He bites her, tells her he's letting her die and she's talking all nice to him? I hope it was just to get cured and not for real cause, hello?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2013 14:35:00 GMT -5
I forgot to mention that point but I also hate the hypocrisy over the fact that she can see Klaus can be good but not Damon who's done nothing but keep her alive time and time again? I won't know what to think when after this she still harks on Damon. The whole time the scene was playing I was just going, "Oh come on. You got to be kidding me." to my TV.  I could only think back to the time in the bar when he said, 'Caroline. You're beautiful but if you don't stop talking I will kill you." |
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Post by Sweetluv4DE on Feb 8, 2013 15:18:14 GMT -5
I think the writers don't care about this hypocrisy. They wont change it. Maybe if Damon dies but they are like ehhh who cares. We are writing it.
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Post by kat on Feb 12, 2013 22:43:15 GMT -5
I forgot to mention that point but I also hate the hypocrisy over the fact that she can see Klaus can be good but not Damon who's done nothing but keep her alive time and time again? I won't know what to think when after this she still harks on Damon. The whole time the scene was playing I was just going, "Oh come on. You got to be kidding me." to my TV. I could only think back to the time in the bar when he said, 'Caroline. You're beautiful but if you don't stop talking I will kill you." I always felt like Caroline is actually jealous of Elena because Damon wanted Elena but not her (yeah I know). She still consciously or subconsciously wonders why Damon decided to just use her but fell in love with Elena... BECAUSE Caroline is frankly still completely self-centered and maybe she always will be. Plus, she's always going to be biased toward SE and is going to be against Damon because she's become Stefan's BEST FRIEND even though she's still Elena's supposed "friend." Now that she's filled the role of being Stefan's new best friend, Caroline has now taken up the role Lexi filled with bad mouthing Damon and taking Stefan's side 100% every chance she gets. If Caroline doesn't see her hypocrisy because of her attraction to Klaus, then I have no idea what the point of this stupid ship was... I do not think Damon is as bad as Klaus so if this doesn't get her to see her OVER THE TOP hypocrisy...she never will. |
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Post by Doppelgänger on Feb 13, 2013 2:07:55 GMT -5
I think you are right, Caroline does wonder why Damon didn't want her like he wants Elena. Her hatred is over the top. Even after everything she still wanted Damon as you might recall, but he was done with her and the best she could come up with at the end of it all was, "You suck!"
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Post by pixiestyx on Feb 14, 2013 1:11:37 GMT -5
I'm not sure I care about Klaus/Caroline enough to be anti-Klaroline. That first spark was kinda interesting but everything else? Not so much. That whole scene with Caroline was ridiculous and I don't think she believed what she was saying at all. She needed something from him and got it.
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Post by kat on Feb 14, 2013 1:22:12 GMT -5
I'm not sure I care about Klaus/Caroline enough to be anti-Klaroline. That first spark was kinda interesting but everything else? Not so much. That whole scene with Caroline was ridiculous and I don't think she believed what she was saying at all. She needed something from him and got it. _________________________________________________________________ I think I hate it because I wanted to care about Caroline but then they started this dumb storyline on top of her already putting down Damon and being SE's number one cheerleader at every turn. I also wanted to care about Klaus...as a villian...but they are trying to soften him up for the sake of this storyline. UGH We already have a redemption storyline in the Salvatore brothers...it's just too much giving Klaus one too when he's clearly more depraved than Damon. I also think I hate it because I see plenty of SE's shipping Klaroline but still putting down DE??? what, really? I think she simply exaggerated her feelings a little as I don't think she would have been completely dishonest on her potential deathbed. She also said she didn't think she could forget everything he has done so I don't see that changing anytime soon. I guess we shall see soon. |
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Post by Doppelgänger on Feb 14, 2013 7:08:19 GMT -5
I'm not sure I care about Klaus/Caroline enough to be anti-Klaroline. That first spark was kinda interesting but everything else? Not so much. That whole scene with Caroline was ridiculous and I don't think she believed what she was saying at all. She needed something from him and got it. _________________________________________________________________ I think I hate it because I wanted to care about Caroline but then they started this dumb storyline on top of her already putting down Damon and being SE's number one cheerleader at every turn. I also wanted to care about Klaus...as a villian...but they are trying to soften him up for the sake of this storyline. UGH We already have a redemption storyline in the Salvatore brothers...it's just too much giving Klaus one too when he's clearly more depraved than Damon. I also think I hate it because I see plenty of SE's shipping Klaroline but still putting down DE??? what, really? I think she simply exaggerated her feelings a little as I don't think she would have been completely dishonest on her potential deathbed. She also said she didn't think she could forget everything he has done so I don't see that changing anytime soon. I guess we shall see soon. What did she say? Anyone who can love can be saved sort of thing? What about Damon, sweetheart? |
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Post by kat on Mar 21, 2013 21:09:54 GMT -5
yepp, still wasn't buying into Klaroline, even after this episode lol
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Post by Doppelgänger on Mar 21, 2013 21:11:33 GMT -5
I was thinking maybe she was talking about Damon this time to Klaus. Wouldn't that have been weird? We were thinking she meant Klaus but maybe not.  You remember how infatuated she was with Damon back then? I do. Then when everyone forced them to be apart she didn't handle it that well even with what she knew. |
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Post by kat on Mar 21, 2013 21:40:09 GMT -5
I was thinking maybe she was talking about Damon this time to Klaus. Wouldn't that have been weird? We were thinking she meant Klaus but maybe not. You remember how infatuated she was with Damon back then? I do. I had just found some of their scenes on youtube and I think Caroline obviously is attracted to bad boys because she was drawn to Damon and honestly, Tyler isn't a saint and had an edge of his own and there was an element of danger because he was a werewolf and she was a vampire initially. If she thinks so much of Stefan, why hasn't she been shown to have a major thing for him? She probably doesn't see him as having enough of an edge for her to have that same passion for her. Maybe they will go for it when Klaus is gone like I think is a huge possibility but maybe that's why she didn't have passion for him before or won't. I still think she only still hates Damon so much because he used her and essentially rejected her in favor of Elena. I know he did some bad things to her but he has done a lot for all of them since then but he's still the most evil person ever even though she's lusting after Klaus... ooook. We can tell by that standard that her hatred for Damon is pretty much about her wounded ego at this point. |
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Post by Doppelgänger on Mar 21, 2013 21:49:34 GMT -5
Yeah exactly and hurt over his rejection. She is no angel. She knew he was a bad boy. It's the same thing here. She's attracted to Klaus in the same way, like a moth to a flame. She knows she'd get burned but she can't seem to help herself.
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Post by Doppelgänger on Mar 23, 2013 11:12:44 GMT -5
I don't get the allure of these two at all. Not only did this pairing come out of nowhere but it just doesn't work for me. Ditzy Caroline is no match for Klaus and I think JoMo could have chemistry with a fence post. That said, Klaus is still a murderous creep. Heck he staked Caroline herself! He also made Tyler bite her! So she nearly died twice directly because of him! How can you ship that? I would want to see Klaus feel some guilt or something before I'd ship him with anyone but a cheap one night stand. Personally I like Klaus all villiany and don't want him to change and in order for this to work and be acceptable he'd have to, so no Klaroline for me. Thanks
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