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Post by Klovin'11 on Mar 23, 2013 17:27:39 GMT -5
I don't get the allure of these two at all. Not only did this pairing come out of nowhere but it just doesn't work for me. Ditzy Caroline is no match for Klaus and I think JoMo could have chemistry with a fence post. That said, Klaus is still a murderous creep. Heck he staked Caroline herself! He also made Tyler bite her! So she nearly died twice directly because of him! How can you ship that? I would want to see Klaus feel some guilt or something before I'd ship him with anyone but a cheap one night stand. Personally I like Klaus all villiany and don't want him to change and in order for this to work and be acceptable he'd have to, so no Klaroline for me. Thanks That's pretty much why I don't want Klaroline. I don't want Klaus to change.. and if he were to change, I'd rather it not be for love. It seems like such a tired idea to me. I think it would be ridiculous, that after 1,000 years of being the way he is, he would change for this one random girl that he fell in "love" with after knowing her all of 2 seconds.
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Post by Klovin'11 on Aug 19, 2013 19:59:10 GMT -5
I was watching season 3 a few weeks ago. Klaroline turns Klaus into a big creep. I think he was enjoying Caroline drinking his blood a little too much, which is creepy since you know he hadn't shown any interest in her at all prior and she hated his guts. It's like he wanted Tyler to bite her so he could get a little bit.. TWO THUMBS DOWN.
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Post by Doppelgänger on Aug 19, 2013 20:11:47 GMT -5
Those vamps do like their blood sucked. I'm still wondering if Klaus will ever tell Caroline about baby Klaussie that's on the way with the one girl she really can't stand. That will be too funny.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2015 16:31:19 GMT -5
I don't get the sudden war that erupted with Klaroline/Steroline after the finale with KCs bringing up the quote of Klaus intending to be her last. So of course this means that eventually Steroline will die/run its course and the true love story for Caroline is her with Klaus.
First off consistency is one thing the writers suck at so how one can think that JP will honor something that was said two seasons ago is beyond me lol. Also Caroline and Klaus have been irrevelant to the other ever since the crossover and their sex scene. That was likely JP giving the fans something so they could be quiet. It wasn't something that she was ever going to capitalize on again. I think Klaus and Caroline even made that point abundantly clear in that scene but I find the scene too cringeworthy to bare watching through again.
But yeah the word Klaus hasn't come out of Caroline's mouth since the crossover and vice versa with Klaus on TO. There's been literally no mention of Caroline ever. Even this recent stuff of Klaus and Cami's budding feelings for each other and characters who know about Caroline and the thing Klaus had for her is not even being brought up by said characters like for instance Elijah lol. 'I quite assure you Cami that Klaus quite fancied a girl named Caroline-' Nope! Not even a single mention.
JP and Michael Narducci's reluctance to even want to do a TVD/TO crossover speaks even more values in how much they want to avoid Klaroline drama. Somerhaldered posted an article about it in TO's thread.
Anyways bottom line is Caroline is in love with Stefan and has never been in love with Klaus so this ship has never even left the port.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2015 16:35:11 GMT -5
Klaus is not even a threat to Steroline cause he's not even brought up at all in their conflict/drama of their relationship compared to the triangle of Stefan/Elena/Damon. There's no triangle with Steroline, Klaus is not even a factor in Steroline's equation of being together.
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Post by Doppelgänger on May 16, 2015 17:03:14 GMT -5
Klaus is not even a threat to Steroline cause he's not even brought up at all in their conflict/drama of their relationship compared to the triangle of Stefan/Elena/Damon. There's no triangle with Steroline, Klaus is not even a factor in Steroline's equation of being together. Yeah it seems like it was all lip service doesn't it? I don't watch TO anymore so I don't know what they are doing with Klaus romance wise but I'm sure there's something.
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Post by chrizakathemole on May 16, 2015 18:44:54 GMT -5
I don't get the sudden war that erupted with Klaroline/Steroline after the finale with KCs bringing up the quote of Klaus intending to be her last. So of course this means that eventually Steroline will die/run its course and the true love story for Caroline is her with Klaus.
First off consistency is one thing the writers suck at so how one can think that JP will honor something that was said two seasons ago is beyond me lol. Also Caroline and Klaus have been irrevelant to the other ever since the crossover and their sex scene. That was likely JP giving the fans something so they could be quiet. It wasn't something that she was ever going to capitalize on again. I think Klaus and Caroline even made that point abundantly clear in that scene but I find the scene too cringeworthy to bare watching through again. To be fair that's not a consistency issue. Klaus was in love so intended at the time. He's moved on. She's moved on. It's like Damon telling Katherine "Let me chase you forever" then when she was dying he was happy. Or Elena saying "It's you and me Stefan.. always." Things change that is character development in this regard. That said I admit I wanted Klaroline BUT I am Anti-Klaroline unless she moves to TO he goes back to TVD as theres no point or story there besides "Last night we so skype'd!" who cares? LOL that's why right now Enzoline is the way to go
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Post by Doppelgänger on May 16, 2015 23:11:09 GMT -5
I don't get the sudden war that erupted with Klaroline/Steroline after the finale with KCs bringing up the quote of Klaus intending to be her last. So of course this means that eventually Steroline will die/run its course and the true love story for Caroline is her with Klaus.
First off consistency is one thing the writers suck at so how one can think that JP will honor something that was said two seasons ago is beyond me lol. Also Caroline and Klaus have been irrevelant to the other ever since the crossover and their sex scene. That was likely JP giving the fans something so they could be quiet. It wasn't something that she was ever going to capitalize on again. I think Klaus and Caroline even made that point abundantly clear in that scene but I find the scene too cringeworthy to bare watching through again. To be fair that's not a consistency issue. Klaus was in love so intended at the time. He's moved on. She's moved on. It's like Damon telling Katherine "Let me chase you forever" then when she was dying he was happy. Or Elena saying "It's you and me Stefan.. always." Things change that is character development in this regard. That said I admit I wanted Klaroline BUT I am Anti-Klaroline unless she moves to TO he goes back to TVD as theres no point or story there besides "Last night we so skype'd!" who cares? LOL that's why right now Enzoline is the way to go Just because Klaus 'intends' to be her last doesn't mean he will get what he wants either!
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Post by chrizakathemole on May 17, 2015 0:16:42 GMT -5
To be fair that's not a consistency issue. Klaus was in love so intended at the time. He's moved on. She's moved on. It's like Damon telling Katherine "Let me chase you forever" then when she was dying he was happy. Or Elena saying "It's you and me Stefan.. always." Things change that is character development in this regard. That said I admit I wanted Klaroline BUT I am Anti-Klaroline unless she moves to TO he goes back to TVD as theres no point or story there besides "Last night we so skype'd!" who cares? LOL that's why right now Enzoline is the way to go Just because Klaus 'intends' to be her last doesn't mean he will get what he wants either! He always gets what he wants it's his his "thing" LOL But in seriousness yes that too
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2015 6:08:16 GMT -5
I don't get the sudden war that erupted with Klaroline/Steroline after the finale with KCs bringing up the quote of Klaus intending to be her last. So of course this means that eventually Steroline will die/run its course and the true love story for Caroline is her with Klaus.
First off consistency is one thing the writers suck at so how one can think that JP will honor something that was said two seasons ago is beyond me lol. Also Caroline and Klaus have been irrevelant to the other ever since the crossover and their sex scene. That was likely JP giving the fans something so they could be quiet. It wasn't something that she was ever going to capitalize on again. I think Klaus and Caroline even made that point abundantly clear in that scene but I find the scene too cringeworthy to bare watching through again. To be fair that's not a consistency issue. Klaus was in love so intended at the time. He's moved on. She's moved on. It's like Damon telling Katherine "Let me chase you forever" then when she was dying he was happy. Or Elena saying "It's you and me Stefan.. always." Things change that is character development in this regard. That said I admit I wanted Klaroline BUT I am Anti-Klaroline unless she moves to TO he goes back to TVD as theres no point or story there besides "Last night we so skype'd!" who cares? LOL that's why right now Enzoline is the way to go The main difference being that the Stefan/Elena/Damon love triangle was part of TVD's main romance so we actually got to see all the development in Elena loving Stefan, building up a friendship with Damon, to falling out of love with Stefan and in love with Damon. Vice versa with Damon's relationship with Katherine, we got to see the fall of this relationship on screen and now with Stefan and Caroline we're witnessing actual scenes of Stefan moving on from Elena to finally getting his relationship with Caroline going. With Klaroline when Klaus was on TVD, he fancied Caroline and actively tried to woo her. When TO came, everything was dropped. Klaus stopped talking about Caroline and vice versa Caroline with Klaus. She's not struggling with any feelings for Klaus that disrupts her from being with Stefan. If Klaus intended for him to be Caroline's last, isn't this something that would weigh on Caroline's mind? Obviously both Stefan AND Klaus can't be her last. Klaus actually came back in the midst of a season of TO to sleep with Caroline and proceeded to have a character joke about his good mood and how he should visit Mystic Falls more often. In essence Klaus didn't move on from Caroline, it was just dropped after the crossover. Klaus' line as Doppel mentioned was lip service, not something the writers would follow up on. It doesn't stop fans of Klaroline from holding onto this line and think of Steroline as some 'phase' or roadblock before they ultimately get Klaroline. So yes, they're hoping the writers stay consistent with that line about Klaus being Caroline's last.
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Post by chrizakathemole on May 18, 2015 16:36:57 GMT -5
I thought he moved on as he seemed in love with Camille during season 1 (not seen 2 yet)
Edit : sorry it posted it twice
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2015 18:56:37 GMT -5
I thought he moved on as he seemed in love with Camille during season 1 (not seen 2 yet) Edit : sorry it posted it twice Hm I guess there are some scenes between the two that could be hints of that in the first season. Klaus also had that relationship with Guineverre of course it was more of a keep friends close, enemies closer instead of real genuine love, especially on Klaus' part. Though it wasn't until the last few eps of season 2 where the elephant in the room was addressed as far as Klaus and Cami's feelings are with other characters commenting on it. In the finale it almost seemed like the two would kiss, faces close, but Klaus walks off. You could say maybe its cause of Klaus' feelings for Caroline but then again it also could be Klaus being Klaus, not wanting to get involved with Cami, protecting her in his own way. Again Caroline's name hasn't been dropped in so long it'd feel odd for the writers to bring up Klaus' feelings for Caroline when she's on a different show and they have no intentions of moving the character. It's just a hindering roadblock for the character. It'd be much easier to drop his feelings and I guess that's how we're supposed to take things since you already felt that he moved on lol. I doubt we'd get a crossover all for the sake of having Klaus move on. But since I hate Klaroline, can't say I'm too bothered by the lack of development in that department lol.
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Post by chrizakathemole on May 19, 2015 12:37:16 GMT -5
Her name not be mentioned in all fairness it's Klaus. He rarely mentions his true feelings unless its to manipulate or relevant. Plus as I said i think he's moved on to Camille and saying "oh that reminds me of this girl I was trying to bang after I killed her Bf's mother and made him leave town forever ..... ahhhh the good old days" is NOT how to get with her lol.
With Klaus you could make the case either way. I know I never talk about ex-girlfriends or people i've moved on too equally and I get the sense that's not him either
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2015 13:14:48 GMT -5
Her name not be mentioned in all fairness it's Klaus. He rarely mentions his true feelings unless its to manipulate or relevant. Plus as I said i think he's moved on to Camille and saying "oh that reminds me of this girl I was trying to bang after I killed her Bf's mother and made him leave town forever ..... ahhhh the good old days" is NOT how to get with her lol. With Klaus you could make the case either way. I know I never talk about ex-girlfriends or people i've moved on too equally and I get the sense that's not him either It's understandable to a point for Klaus to not mention it, but why would other characters not bring it up either? If Camille notices Klaus' hesitation in being with her and her background in psychology and her basic intellect will make her question why he's hesitating and she'll probably bring up if it was a girl.
With Hayley and Elijah, that happened and then we got the background on Celeste (even though the character's history itself kinda just got made up on the spot for TO lol).
Of course they could always direct Klaus' hesisation to something else entirely, fear of hurting Cami or something, and not have it do anything to do with Caroline. Of course if they do go that route then that means the writers have indeed decided to drop his feelings for convenience, since he clearly did have some genuine feelings for Caroline, enough to woo her and 'try' to do some good, saving her and then coming over for the crossover to sleep with her well into TO's first season.
Again when I'm not lazy I'll probably rewatch that Klaus/Caroline scene in the forest where they kiss and whatnot cause I think the dialogue there did indicate a sort of 'moving on' type of mentality. They'd get it out of their system and never talk about it again or something.
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Post by Somerhaldered on May 19, 2015 15:57:07 GMT -5
Sounds like closure to me, LOL! This happened in 5x11
But Klarolines just like hanging onto his one romantic line about being her last in 4x23. Let's just note which scene actually came last!!
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