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Post by Slash on Feb 1, 2013 1:56:34 GMT -5
Well, as I mentioned in chat, this episode pissed me off. Between more Bekah & Stefan, the killing of Kol, Elena being Elena and annoying me, Bonnie on a power trip and the usual, I don't deal with it banter from the Salvatores, this episode nearly drove me up the wall,
Stefan trying to sneak out on Bekah? Really? I hated that they started the episode off like that and then had him just come around to her by the end. Not only that, but the 'maybe you could be human/deserve a 2nd chance' BS? Stake him. You just plotted and succeeded in killing her Brother, mind you, the 2nd one that has died at the hands of your little gang and you're trying to smooth it over? And shame on Bekah for falling for it. I thought she was going good for knowing he was up to something to get the dagger but she kind of bottomed out at the end.
Elena I was just sick of. I'm so tired of the "Lets kill the Originals" theme of this show and over the past 2 or so episodes, Kol had really become an interesting character. He ran with Witches (has a respect for them) when he went out on his own, he was in NO where it's apparently where Klaus daggered him for 'nothing' (Original show takes place in NO), and he had a run in with Silas followers and killed them all. Nope, we got Elena fixated on killing Kol who was trying to give her warning about what was ahead with the cure/Silas and that Witches even feared the return (so he's not a boogieman if the Witches are on edge and Bonnie's own mother was going to contact them about Bonnie who is a Bennet and a key element). Her trying to keep Kol in the house and find out where Jeremy/Bonnie was just making me wish he'd snap her neck like his sis did. She ended on a high note though with her whining/questioning Stefan hanging out with Bekah and then sleeping with her. You two are done. He can do what he wants in his free time, even if I don't personally approve of it. Get off his case, he's not with you anymore.
Bonnie is so sure of her power now even though she's in a new field of magic. Yep, I'll bet on her being reliable with magic she doesn't fully understand. Stop fronting like you have things in control when you clearly don't.
So Klaus doesn't want the cure to use it? He wants to destroy it (I think the work Tyler did on his Hybrids left a bitter taste in his mouth). He kind of shares a similar worry with Kol about Silas: he's immortal and wants to keep it that way. The cure coming into play means the gang can use it on him. The look on his face though when he had to watch Kol die...I hope he does get some vengeance. I'm tired of the gang plotting against the Originals.
The Brothers throwing insults/secrets in each others' faces in public. Nothing new, just sick of it.
Another high point of the episode was no Caroline or Tyler.
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Post by goldenangel24 on Feb 1, 2013 8:58:31 GMT -5
Slash i feel the same as you about EVERYTHING! i didnt find stefan and bekan cute at all. he was playing her. he didnt tell her the whole story. like how the plan from the start was to kill kol and dagger her. stefan realize that bekah would be more useful walking around than in a box doesnt win any brownie points with me. and as you said shame on bekan for believing it.
what makes bonnie think shes in control of anything? is it the way she LOSES control every time, that gots her feeling so cocky.
i dont care one bit about the triangle from hell.
i cant believe they killed kol. i'm hoping beyond hope that he comes back for the spinoff. i'm so anger right now its not funny. only part i loved was klaus reaction. i cant believe elena tried to play on klaus played out obsession. i'm glad he said what i've been waiting to hear. i glad he wants to kill them. i want him too. badly. poor kol.
they killed so many vampires and people just for elena can be human? its time people from there crew start dying. klaus take your pick. i dont care about none of them.
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Post by Ruby2579 on Feb 1, 2013 9:05:28 GMT -5
You know what's funny what came to mind when klaus stood there helpless watching his brother die...when Elena had to watch Jenna die in the hands of Klaus and I was like wow karma is a beeaaatch
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Post by mysticangel on Feb 1, 2013 9:11:15 GMT -5
I will miss Kol a lot. He was, in his own twisted way, trying to keep things from going to hell in a hand basket. He could actually be charming, something I never expected from the Originals' resident psychopath.
Hopefully they'll start moving away from the compulsion overkill in the next couple of episodes. I think that's probably why they had Bonnie's dad put vervain in the drinking water.
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Post by Ruby2579 on Feb 1, 2013 9:15:23 GMT -5
Also when it comes to rebekah I'm glad she believed stefan at the end because she knows it was the truth. I know it sucks maybe she shouldve punched stefan lol but she knew her brother was getting on the way of her finding the cure she didn't want him to die but they had to do it according to them same way rebekah felt she had to kill Elena in order to stop running from crazy Alaric who was going to kill her n get family. So I guess she understood more then some of us did
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Post by Misty on Feb 1, 2013 10:07:16 GMT -5
You know what's funny what came to mind when klaus stood there helpless watching his brother die...when Elena had to watch Jenna die in the hands of Klaus and I was like wow karma is a beeaaatch I hadn't thought of that but you do have a point there! As for Kol, he was an interesting character and it sucks that this means he won't be in the spin-off if it gets picked up (unless he gets brought back somehow.) I didn't really have a major attachment to him though, probably because we didn't know all that much about him. What is sad to me is how many vamps died because of this plan when there were probably a lot of them that hadn't done anything wrong and the fact that none of the characters seemed to even think of that. Us viewers did, but none of them it seemed. I do feel really bad for Rebekah, all she has ever wanted is someone to truly love her because it's obvious she has a lot of love to give. I'm wishing her and Stefan would work out because when they are being genuine with each other, they are very cute and have great chemistry. But Stefan has a long way to go before that would even happen and without going into what I'm feeling about him the last couple weeks (There's a separate area for that lol) I'm not sure a true Stebekah relationship will happen.
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Post by mysticangel on Feb 1, 2013 10:20:54 GMT -5
Well, Elena at least mentioned the line dying. She knew and cared more about completing Jeremy's hunter's mark to get to the cure.
Which, IMO, was a move towards knocking her off that "snowflake" pedestal the rest of the characters are putting her up on. Although the show took some strides to show that goodness exists inside vamps, there is a fair amount of evil as well- and no vamp on this show, not even Elijah, is completely above/able to overcome it 100% of the time.
I kind of wish they'd done something with vampire elena besides turning her into a weak carbon copy of Katherine. I'm not entirely sure what would've been a good storyline, though, much beyond what's already been presented. Granted, Katherine would've been cowering in front of Kol, whereas Elena actively fought him.
If I'm forced to pick a direction for Elena that's non-shipping related, I'd like to see some form of character development that isn't totally stuck in the good/bad, black/white moral void the character seems to exist in. Maybe Elena doing something bad to one of her friends for the benefit of the rest? Or choosing to walk away from both Salvatore brothers for a while? Something.
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Post by Slash on Feb 1, 2013 14:30:55 GMT -5
I really hope Klaus eviscerates someone from the group. Jeremy, Elena, Bonnie being the big ones who were in on it. The one thing I do fault Kol for though in all this is being stupid enough to keep the Stake on him. He should have hidden it or gave it to the one reasonable person he could trust: Elijah. I don't understand, with the show overall, why people are just running around with the Stake like they are. Elena trying to Stake Bekah, Stefan handing it over to Caroline who lost it to Bekah who lost it to Kol, Kol walking around with it in his jacket pocket. A weapon that dangerous to Vampires, not just the Originals (kills the bloodline) should be hidden, not being used for these 'plots' Elena has. She's planned to kill 2 Originals with it this season alone, succeeded in one, was talked down from the other for the very reason she killed the 2nd: doing so would take countless lives in the process. The fact that Elena sacrificed so many lives to complete the Mark is just...I'm at a loss of words for her character. I know the plot wants to move forward but I've lost some respect for Damon for jumping on Klaus' plan when him & Jeremy were going to do things 'right' and Elena for rushing as well by wiping out a line.
Back to Kol again, if he was running with Witches and they know of the threat, why aren't they in MF trying to help prevent things? Abby mentioned she was going to bring some in too to help Bonnie and deal with the situation since she was a key.
This storyline just went off the rails =\
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Post by Ravenwing on Feb 1, 2013 15:24:05 GMT -5
Kol carrying the stake on him was so frickin ridiculous and made no sense. But then, a lot about this show is written for convenience sake. I'm gonna miss him. If he wasn't hot, that probably wouldn't be the case. But he is.
#teamkolressurection
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Post by Ruby2579 on Feb 1, 2013 18:42:03 GMT -5
BTW I REWATCHED THE EPISODE AND KLAUS DIDNT HAVE TIME TO EVEN TRY TO RUN AFTER HE WAS INVITED IN LMAO BONNIE ASID SWOOP COME IN WHILE DONT U N PUSHED HIM INSIDE LOL
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Post by flirty on Feb 2, 2013 22:05:05 GMT -5
I find it hilarious that Damon punched Stefan, primarily because he also slept with Rebekah while actively pursuing Elena. Bet that little fact gets glossed over by Delena shippers.
You know what I would love to happen? Rebekah and Stefan get serious, Elena/Jeremy/Bonnie (the annoying trio) kill Rebekah, and Stefan goes nuts. Bam, the primary antagonist of season 5.
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Post by Ruby2579 on Feb 2, 2013 22:41:51 GMT -5
Although that would be a twist that would catch everyone off guard you know the writers won't go there haha. Flirty are you new here? If so welcome ;D
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Post by Doppelgänger on Feb 3, 2013 0:03:58 GMT -5
I find it hilarious that Damon punched Stefan, primarily because he also slept with Rebekah while actively pursuing Elena. Bet that little fact gets glossed over by Delena shippers. You know what I would love to happen? Rebekah and Stefan get serious, Elena/Jeremy/Bonnie (the annoying trio) kill Rebekah, and Stefan goes nuts. Bam, the primary antagonist of season 5. Damon punching Stefan had zero to do with Rebekah and everything to do with what he did/said to Damon and Elena. But this isn't a debate thread so therefore innapropriate for this section of the board, but if you'd like to debate why Damon punched Stefan we can make a thread for it in debates and we can all talk about why we think that happened there.
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Post by kat on Feb 3, 2013 2:00:03 GMT -5
I find it hilarious that Damon punched Stefan, primarily because he also slept with Rebekah while actively pursuing Elena. Bet that little fact gets glossed over by Delena shippers. You know what I would love to happen? Rebekah and Stefan get serious, Elena/Jeremy/Bonnie (the annoying trio) kill Rebekah, and Stefan goes nuts. Bam, the primary antagonist of season 5. As a Delena shipper, I personally don't gloss over Damon sleeping with Rebekah also. To me, it just goes to show that the brothers are alot more alike then they want to admit if they both go sleep with Elena's sworn enemy when she hurts them. To me, it just makes them more equal to eachother...that neither is morally superior to the other and also goes to show what an effect Elena has on each of them. However, I also enjoy Stebekah myself so he can have it. Damon didn't punch Stefan because of Rebekah, he punched him because Stefan was rubbing the sire bond in his face and Damon has problems with his impulses as he himself admitted lol Anyway, I hope you're right about Stebekah getting serious and I also love the second half of that scenario!
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Post by beangelic1000 on Feb 3, 2013 2:36:19 GMT -5
I find it hilarious that Damon punched Stefan, primarily because he also slept with Rebekah while actively pursuing Elena. Bet that little fact gets glossed over by Delena shippers. You know what I would love to happen? Rebekah and Stefan get serious, Elena/Jeremy/Bonnie (the annoying trio) kill Rebekah, and Stefan goes nuts. Bam, the primary antagonist of season 5. Damon punched Stefan because he accused him of using the sire bond, which Damon had not done. Once Damon discovered that Elena was sired to him he's been careful what he says to Elana.
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