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Post by Sweetluv4DE on Jan 18, 2013 1:04:46 GMT -5
But again it's not about them it's about Elena. How would Elena feel. How would I feel? I'm sorry but still to know a man would chose life but just a life without me never knowing me and what we shared and alive knowing this stings harder. Dying sucks and would hurt but at least I knew it was because he just couldn't live if he couldn't have me. Stefan chooses life just not with her in it.
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Post by Ruby2579 on Jan 18, 2013 1:05:07 GMT -5
I hate to bring this up but I will. It's an abuse tactic to basically act as if the person no longer exists in your world, to erase them from your existence like they don't exist and basically that is what Stefan wanted to do to Elena because AFTER he broke up with her she admitted to falling in love with his brother. Grow up. Get some balls. Get some counseling maybe and become a more decent human being and maybe a girl wouldn't fall out of love with you. Maybe you should provide the counseling Doppel jk lol   Stefan knew Elena had feelings for Damon but it was just a whole bunch of things at once that hit Stefan. Caroline telling him about the sex, the sire bond, her straight confession, her feelings about how she felt about him etc etc I think at this point no matter what Stefan does he will always be analyzed on how he couldve done it better or etc ext |
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Post by Doppelgänger on Jan 18, 2013 1:06:52 GMT -5
I'm not sure when Damon decided to die if he couldn't have Elena. When was that?
Could he, would he, perhaps? But like Sweet said, wanting to erase someone's memory is something else. It's saying you aren't worth remembering and I don't think Damon would ever do that.
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Post by Doppelgänger on Jan 18, 2013 1:08:37 GMT -5
I hate to bring this up but I will. It's an abuse tactic to basically act as if the person no longer exists in your world, to erase them from your existence like they don't exist and basically that is what Stefan wanted to do to Elena because AFTER he broke up with her she admitted to falling in love with his brother. Grow up. Get some balls. Get some counseling maybe and become a more decent human being and maybe a girl wouldn't fall out of love with you. Maybe you should provide the counseling Doppel jk lol Stefan knew Elena had feelings for Damon but it was just a whole bunch of things at once that hit Stefan. Caroline telling him about the sex, the sire bond, her straight confession, her feelings about how she felt about him etc etc I think at this point no matter what Stefan does he will always be analyzed on how he couldve done it better or etc ext I don't have the patience.  |
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Post by Ruby2579 on Jan 18, 2013 1:09:37 GMT -5
I think Damon in a moment of weakness wouldve said the same thing. IMO in his breaking point.
The end of season 3 when elena called him. He gave up was letting alaric kill him not fighting back. he preferred to feel that pain then the emotional heartbreak of loosing elena
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Post by Doppelgänger on Jan 18, 2013 1:12:00 GMT -5
I hate to bring this up but I will. It's an abuse tactic to basically act as if the person no longer exists in your world, to erase them from your existence like they don't exist and basically that is what Stefan wanted to do to Elena because AFTER he broke up with her she admitted to falling in love with his brother. Grow up. Get some balls. Get some counseling maybe and become a more decent human being and maybe a girl wouldn't fall out of love with you. Maybe you should provide the counseling Doppel jk lol Stefan knew Elena had feelings for Damon but it was just a whole bunch of things at once that hit Stefan. Caroline telling him about the sex, the sire bond, her straight confession, her feelings about how she felt about him etc etc I think at this point no matter what Stefan does he will always be analyzed on how he couldve done it better or etc ext This is true. That was alot to take in and I don't know if any of us could process that in a good healthy way. I'll give him that. Hopefully when he has time to think he will do things better. |
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Post by Doppelgänger on Jan 18, 2013 1:14:21 GMT -5
I think Damon in a moment of weakness wouldve said the same thing. IMO in his breaking point. The end of season 3 when elena called him. He gave up was letting alaric kill him not fighting back. he preferred to feel that pain then the emotional heartbreak of loosing elena He loved Alaric. The whole thing was painful and much more than any enemy he ever had to take on so there was alot more to that than just Elena and giving up which he never did. He fought him off but he didn't want to fight him. |
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Post by Ruby2579 on Jan 18, 2013 1:20:04 GMT -5
Ive never judged Damon when he does his crazy impulsive actions when hes hurt I just feel his pain. Hell I even do it for Klaus and he tops Damon so how can I not feel for Stefan at this time. (Triangle or no triangle)
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Post by Doppelgänger on Jan 18, 2013 1:40:31 GMT -5
I'm not gonna argue that. If you can feel for them all that's a good thing. I don't really agree with Stefan's motivations for erasing Elena from his life. Did he not love her? Was she not worth knowing just because her feelings changed? Do you see how much this is a slap in her face? I get that he is hurt. But saying he'd rather have never known her is a pretty extreme response. I already know without a doubt Damon would never do that. It's like the old saying, "It's better to have loved and lost then never to have loved at all," and Damon made it clear that he wasn't sorry for the journey he took in 2x22 or he wouldn't have met Elena and meeting Elena made it all worthwhile. Do you see the difference in philosophies there? I find it odd that the show wants Stefan to erase SE like that, as if it never mattered. That is pretty horrible and makes SE seem insignificant even to him.
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Post by Ruby2579 on Jan 18, 2013 1:41:51 GMT -5
I kind of think he did it to get at Elena but its just one of my theories...hehehe
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Post by Doppelgänger on Jan 18, 2013 1:48:50 GMT -5
Maybe but if Bekah had said OK then what? It wasn't really a good time for bluffing.
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Post by Ruby2579 on Jan 18, 2013 1:51:02 GMT -5
Then he wouldve done it but thank god the writers made her say no lol  |
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Post by Doppelgänger on Jan 18, 2013 1:53:49 GMT -5
I seriously thought it was gonna happen and the SEs were right from once. Phew....reputation is intact.... |
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Post by Sweetluv4DE on Jan 18, 2013 2:43:51 GMT -5
Ya that's too impulsive for me. What if she said yes??? His impulsive anger/hurt would have been a big mistake!!! Even if he didn't mean it he said it and you can't take it back. If Bekah did it them he could never take it back. How sad.
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Post by Slash on Jan 18, 2013 12:48:58 GMT -5
I hate to bring this up but I will. It's an abuse tactic to basically act as if the person no longer exists in your world, to erase them from your existence like they don't exist and basically that is what Stefan wanted to do to Elena because AFTER he broke up with her she admitted to falling in love with his brother. Grow up. Get some balls. Get some counseling maybe and become a more decent human being and maybe a girl wouldn't fall out of love with you. Maybe you should provide the counseling Doppel jk lol Stefan knew Elena had feelings for Damon but it was just a whole bunch of things at once that hit Stefan. Caroline telling him about the sex, the sire bond, her straight confession, her feelings about how she felt about him etc etc I think at this point no matter what Stefan does he will always be analyzed on how he couldve done it better or etc ext Caroline factored into this more than she should have. I said before that her piling all this news on Stefan, when he was trying to work towards the cure, was crushing him. Caroline is as much to blame as anyone and I really hope Elena chews her out. When Stefan said that Elena slept with Damon, the look on Elena's face towards Caroline should have been telling and Bekah's compulsions aside, I wonder if Elena would have jumped the table to get to Caroline. So you have Stefan trying to focus on the cure (and doing the extreme stuff to get it), Caroline telling all this crap to him, the sire bond and then you top it off with hearing all this stuff from Elena. The guy was broken at that point. |
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