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Post by Slash on Jan 23, 2013 15:21:01 GMT -5
No, I don't think Stefan did it purposely to hurt Elena. From his POV, even if he wanted Elena to be happen with Damon and left town to go elsewhere, Elena would still be present in his mind/memory. Even at a distance, he'd be hurting and would possibly just turn it all off at a point. So although he said 'do it', I think it was mainly for his benefit and not going back down a dark road in the future (saving lives in the process). 'Cowards' way out or not, I think it was a reasonable decision if it prevented him from going into another Ripper stint cause he was always thinking about Elena and 'switched off' to stop. Elena being hurt in the process probably isn't even something he's going for. Sure her memories still remain but it's a reasonable option on Stefan's behalf for him to move on and let atleast one side of this triangle live it out without this whole 'the Other Brother' thing. I think Bekah telling him 'no' just made him shift gears (if my other theory isn't on the money about him luring in Bekah for a plan) to the "I hate my Brother" thing. I'm sorry that's still cowardly! If you can't deal with your pain or heartbreak without having your memory wiped or going on some killing rampage how the heck will you ever be a well adjusted person/vampire?  That's just excuse after excuse for Stefan! Everyone else can deal with their pain and more or less suck it up, but Stefan is the only baby that needs to be pacified? Has to have his entire memory wiped or he'll go on a killing rampage? That's ridiculous IMO. And let's be real! Breaking up with someone isn't the end of the world! Yes it's painful but there are worst things that can happen to you! Stefan's inability to feel the hurt, or rather his desire to have his memory erased of Elena entirely is cowardly IMO! SO many other characters were put in similar situations and they dealt with it! Why the heck is Stefan the exception? Stefan lacks control. Him taking the steps, no matter how extreme, compared to others, is warranted. He's walking an edge right now with the way he's acting and a further push could make him shut down and go back full Ripper. The 'Ripper' condition makes him different from others, although he still needs to get it under control, I doubt now is the best time with all the crap going on around the gang. Stefan shutting it off is a by product of not being able to gain control and Lexi's band-aid methods. If he's not feeling as the Ripper, he's living a guilt-ridden, 'avoid' everything lifestyle. Again, he's living 'extremes'. Him wanting to forget Elena to save a few hundred lives and another 15+ year stint as the Ripper is justified. That's all I'm saying. And someone leaving you is world ending for some (I've seen enough murder stories on ID with someone killing their other cause they were threatening to leave or did). Some individuals can't cope or have the "If I can't have you, no one can!" mentality. |
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Post by Doppelgänger on Jan 23, 2013 15:48:12 GMT -5
Yeah but that's obviously not a normal reaction. That is usually from a guy or girl who has severe control issues. Just saying...
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Post by Slash on Jan 23, 2013 16:04:30 GMT -5
No, it's not normal by any means. Control issues, doesn't deal well with rejection (we know Stefan has been shown favoritism a lot of the time), etc.. With the way he blew up at Elena, I expect him to be more confrontational with her and Damon on a regular basis (so...the norm for him and Damon) unless he plans on killing them. For Stefan, Elena was that shining light after all these years and he tried to put himself in the perfect position to get her and he did. Damon comes along and look at how things turned out. Stefan is [going to be] one bitter SOB with how things played out.
So if he's not playing Bekah again, like everyone does, his comments make sense from that perspective: a return to MF and Elena was his new life and he put quite a bit of work into it. Damon came along and 'took' Elena from him and now he knows how Elena feels about him too (and Damon). He wants to erase that 'failed' attempt cause it was also a high point of his life. He can't think back to it without feeling the pain too. He can't get that though so now, he's more committed to getting the 'cure' so he can 'free' Elena of the sire bond and get the 'actual' truth (cause like before, with him and Caroline reasoning Elena's change as the sire bond, it makes the most 'sense' to them as to why Elena is who she is now).
Ripper Stefan really should be out playing right now. I'm kind of surprised he hasn't gone off the rails yet.
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Post by Ruby2579 on Jan 23, 2013 16:36:52 GMT -5
Ripper Stefan really should be out playing right now. I'm kind of surprised he hasn't gone off the rails yet. I would love to see Ripper Stefan come out and play haha |
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Post by Misty on Jan 24, 2013 12:07:34 GMT -5
Ok...here we go...gonna jump in with both feet here.  I can understand Stefan's anger to a point. His heart is broken and an important relationship end. I do agree that him asking for him memories to be wiped and saying he hates his brother are pretty rash and wrong, but we have all seen Damon do some bad things when he's hurt as well and we understand why he does it. Anger is definitely part of the grieving process and sometimes that anger isn't completely logical and makes us see things differently than they really are. He's never had someone choose Damon over him before so he has no idea how to handle it. Is he handling it poorly? Absolutely...in an almost obsessively scary way. I really dislike the whole sire-bond thing all the way around. Because it would be far more interesting to see Stefan actually deal with the break-up and someone choosing Damon over him than it is to see him obsessed with the cure for the sake of hoping she goes back to being the way she was before. When all she did before was not deal with her feelings and string them both along while she tried to decide between safe and secure or all-consuming passion. The sire-bond is just leaving that little bit of doubt in everyone so Stefan can't fully believe, Damon can't fully believe, and Elena's actions are always up for scrutiny. If the theory of the sire-bond being crap was true, that would be great! I'm not going to hold my breath though because they really like to mess with the triangle any way they can so that no one is truly happy!  They could have written this better to where it ended up that through Stefan's grief he learned to understand what his brother has gone through and ended up making them closer afterward but instead they made it a really bad situation all the way around. Oh well, it's still one heck of a ride that isn't close to being over, so we'll all just hold on tight and see where we end up! |
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