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Post by Doppelgänger on May 19, 2014 18:31:04 GMT -5
Well blow me  there was I thinking that Elena loved Damon so much, that she didn't want him to go alone, and that if he was going to die, then she wanted to be with him. Did the TVD scriptwriters get it all wrong, when they used the Sire Bond to out Elena, who up until that time was in deep denial about how much she loved Damon, too the point she was willing to choose Stefan who she was no longer in love with rather then face the truth about her feelings Feelings that she would have spend years denying but for the fact that she died and as she made the transition into vampirism all the hidden feelings she had as a human for Damon manifested into a Sire Bond that saw her sired to him. A Sire Bond that was broken the minute she switched off all her humanity (emotions)...How did we get it all wrong  So the fact that Damon didn't take advantage of the SB because he wanted it to be real.....Wasn't real  I cannot for the life of me understand how we could have missinterpreted the fact that Elena didn't want to think about a future with her true love Stefan, that the lack of tears when he died meant everything, and the tears of devastation she shed for Damon meant nothing.....did things get lost in translation? But this is the biggest transgression of all.....how could we not know that Damon and Elena's love that was built up slowly with no help from the universe or a prophasy telling them they were destined to be together, was not a love story because it was't real  How could we not know that the love story was that of SE who with the aid of Markos who created the DC prophasy by casting a spell 1500 years ago so that the universe could draw them together whether they wanted to or not, so that a 2000 year old witches curse could be lifted. How did we miss all these clues that told us that SE was the REAL deal   |
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Post by Doppelgänger on May 26, 2014 16:21:15 GMT -5
I don't believe Damon ever got rough with Elena like this....and they call Delena toxic...
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Post by Doppelgänger on Jun 9, 2014 21:02:09 GMT -5
Seriously? Look at this crap...another supposed campaign of not watching by the minority. I don't think the writers care and the ratings sure didn't feel their last attempt at this... What a bunch of crybabies. We went 3 seasons without our ship getting a chance and didn't stop watching until then (as some people did quit the show after the season 3 finale...a lot actually) and in our case the ratings did feel it.
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Stelena and Bamon shippers: Be very cautious of this. Do not watch until you know Delena is out 100%. Because if you watch and get tricked, Delena can continue.
•According to the Season 6 promotional poster, the season will be about the possibilty of Damon and Elena’s journey back to each other. As well as fighting the evil inside themselves and getting their town, Mystic Falls, back. |
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Post by missmystic on Jun 10, 2014 8:15:02 GMT -5
That's pathetic. What a waste of energy. If they don't want to watch the show anymore, than they shouldn't watch it anymore. If they want to keep watching, then they should just keep watching and shut up about it. Trying to plan "strategic" attacks on Delena by only watching at specific times is ridiculous, childish, and petty. And on another note, I still cannot believe there are Bamon fans for this show!!!! What show are they watching? ? That makes about as much sense as people shipping Damon and Matt. They have about the same amount of screen time, the same amount of a relationship. As far as I'm concerned, they have an equal chance at becoming a couple. I.E., a snowball's chance in hell. |
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Post by beangelic1000 on Jun 10, 2014 18:43:23 GMT -5
I don't see Stelena happening again, and the only relationship I see happening on the show for DB is them bonding in friendship and Bonnie beginning to see a totally different side to Damon that will see her understanding him in a more positive way, and like Elena she will be another person with a foot firmly in the TeamDamon camp, that is about it.
If they don't want to watch the show then don't watch it, but it is not their place to rally support against watching the show. It is a selfish attitude. If I don't like something I don't watch, but it should be up to each individual whether they want to watch or not. And those in the DB fandom should steer clear of the Stelena fandom, it's getting harder to tell the different between the two lately. This is the sort of tactics the SE fandom used all the time from the moment they realised DE was on the cards. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2014 17:57:27 GMT -5
I'm always surprised when there are those anti fans that do see things like this poster and acknowledge the Delena presence when most of the time you get the anti's who manage to twist things with their bias.
And in all honesty, I can't really understand why some fans bother to watch a show, if they really do not get enjoyment from it at all. Of course there are some shows where they may be one character or two that you don't particularly care for but you still watch for other characters or for the plot in general. But when you're at the point that you can just easily 'boycott' episodes on a fly, maybe it's time to be watching something else. Because obviously you're not really enjoying this show at all.
There are some fans who just outright don't like Damon's or Elena's character and of course not like them together and for a show that's so heavily invested in these characters solely and relationship wise, I never really get why someone would put up with something repeatedly that only causes them to write angry rants after every showing.
On a side note I always find it funny when it comes to shows and those fans who are so 'fed up' with the writing or are so 'done' with it and whatnot, still know what's going on with the show up to the latest episode. They may not watch live, but they still watch so they can be up to date on their complaints and that seems a bit silly to me. |
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Post by Doppelgänger on Jun 11, 2014 23:09:26 GMT -5
I don't see Stelena happening again, and the only relationship I see happening on the show for DB is them bonding in friendship and Bonnie beginning to see a totally different side to Damon that will see her understanding him in a more positive way, and like Elena she will be another person with a foot firmly in the TeamDamon camp, that is about it.
If they don't want to watch the show then don't watch it, but it is not their place to rally support against watching the show. It is a selfish attitude. If I don't like something I don't watch, but it should be up to each individual whether they want to watch or not. And those in the DB fandom should steer clear of the Stelena fandom, it's getting harder to tell the different between the two lately. This is the sort of tactics the SE fandom used all the time from the moment they realised DE was on the cards. That's because a lot of DB fans are Stelenas. They want DB just to get Damon out of the way and you can tell because they hate Damon. How can you hate half of a ship that you ship? Frustration with one of them, sure, but I've seen outright Damon hate from some Bamons while still claiming to ship him with Bonnie. That's why I don't really ship Stefan with anyone. I just don't care for his character at all so I don't really wish him upon any other character. I can see why people see potential with Steroline but I still don't ship it. |
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Post by missmystic on Jun 12, 2014 8:19:47 GMT -5
I don't see Stelena happening again, and the only relationship I see happening on the show for DB is them bonding in friendship and Bonnie beginning to see a totally different side to Damon that will see her understanding him in a more positive way, and like Elena she will be another person with a foot firmly in the TeamDamon camp, that is about it.
If they don't want to watch the show then don't watch it, but it is not their place to rally support against watching the show. It is a selfish attitude. If I don't like something I don't watch, but it should be up to each individual whether they want to watch or not. And those in the DB fandom should steer clear of the Stelena fandom, it's getting harder to tell the different between the two lately. This is the sort of tactics the SE fandom used all the time from the moment they realised DE was on the cards. That's because a lot of DB fans are Stelenas. They want DB just to get Damon out of the way and you can tell because they hate Damon. How can you hate half of a ship that you ship? Frustration with one of them, sure, but I've seen outright Damon hate from some Bamons while still claiming to ship him with Bonnie. That's why I don't really ship Stefan with anyone. I just don't care for his character at all so I don't really wish him upon any other character. I can see why people see potential with Steroline but I still don't ship it. Exactly. That might be one of the reasons I haven't been able to get really excited about Steroline either. There are just too many things about Stefan that I dislike right now. It doesn't make sense to ship a couple when you only really like 1 person in the couple. I also see potential for Steroline, I just don't feel it yet. With Caroline crushing from the sidelines, hoping to win him over, I'm hoping that scenario will win ME over. And also hoping that maybe Stefan can suck a little less lol. But I can't imagine trying to ship a couple when you hate one half of the couple. I'm sure you must be right that those Damon hating Bamon fans are just Stelena's trying to increase the Bamon fan base in order to give Stelena a leg up. But really at this point I agree with AnbuPrincess, that if they are that miserable with the Delena of it all, why do they bother? Continuing to watch for the soul purpose of finding things to complain about and writing hate messages is a ridiculous waste of energy. God forbid I ever become that sad and bitter. |
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Post by vampirelust on Jun 12, 2014 14:42:52 GMT -5
It is the same phenomena that has those fans who hate Damon with a passion because he is a "whiny, man child" who lashes out and kills without remorse when wronged, BUT, they love Klaus. Go figure, I will never understand the logic of these fans.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2014 20:31:41 GMT -5
It is the same phenomena that has those fans who hate Damon with a passion because he is a "whiny, man child" who lashes out and kills without remorse when wronged, BUT, they love Klaus. Go figure, I will never understand the logic of these fans. Yeah and it's usually because in addition to some Delena fans shipping Klaroline, you also have Stelena fans that ship it as well. And it's easier for them to get into it considering that Klaus isn't really in competition to Stelena or a threat at all so he doesn't receive nearly the same hate as Damon despite him being ten times worst than Damon. Can you imagine if Damon had impaled Elena with a lamp? With Klaus while some fans did grill him for it, a majority of fans brushed the moment over and the main focus of it was romanticized by holding Caroline's line of saying that Klaus had good in him/could be saved. Whereas if that was Damon, fans would burn him at the stake and never let him hear the end of it and say how stupid Elena is for saying a line like that to Damon after an action like that.
You'd also have to keep in mind that most Klaroline fans in general are usually big fans of Caroline who will essentially fall right in line with her anti sentiments of Damon.
To be honest, I really just keep away from any shipping fandoms that don't have Damon or Elena in it. Well I really only ship Delena when it comes to pairing the two, but other ships like Steroline, Forwood, or Beremy while I don't mind the ships themselves, most of the fandom just leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Ships like Steroline and Klaroline where Caroline is the obvious favorite, you'll easily find endless amounts of Elena hate, it's pretty much a given. Beremy and Forwood? Damon isn't the first thing to come to mind when you think of those ships right? Wrong. Damon still gets mentioned in nearly every other post with how he's so this and that while the male in their ship is a perfect saint. And not to mention the Delena ship in general is always ragged on in other pairing tags to the point I ship things like Steroline for my own enjoyment and don't care to indulge in the fandom.
I'm looking at this from a shipping perspective since some hated characters are simply hated because they get in the way of a ship or they're not with who you want them to be, as in the case of Bamon.
Also didn't mean for this post to get this long (and this off track since this is the Anti Stelena thread), but it's sort of a pet peeve with me when it comes to shipping fandoms, which for the most part aside from Delena, I'm not really apart of any of my ships fandoms.
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Post by Doppelgänger on Sept 4, 2014 6:48:24 GMT -5
It must really suck to realize that Delena is getting everything they wanted Stelena to have but let's face it, Stelena was never 'epic.' I almost wonder if the writers/producers snickered a little when they used that word to describe them. I've never seen a more superficial relationship, ever. They threw them together so they could tear them apart...isn't it obvious to the Stelenas by now?
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Post by missmystic on Sept 4, 2014 8:38:46 GMT -5
It must really suck to realize that Delena is getting everything they wanted Stelena to have but let's face it, Stelena was never 'epic.' I almost wonder if the writers/producers snickered a little when they used that word to describe them. I've never seen a more superficial relationship, ever. They threw them together so they could tear them apart...isn't it obvious to the Stelenas by now?
Gross .... lol I seriously just don't understand what these people are watching when they "watch the show." Elena had fallen out of love with Stefan by halfway through season 3! And it was long gone by the time she broke up with him in season 4. And they could not have been clearer about it last season, when they both said it was over and they were now officially friends. "You can either be friends with someone or you can be in love with someone, you can't be both." End of story! Wake up and smell the friend zone Stelenas, its over. |
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Post by Doppelgänger on Sept 5, 2014 13:46:19 GMT -5
It must really suck to realize that Delena is getting everything they wanted Stelena to have but let's face it, Stelena was never 'epic.' I almost wonder if the writers/producers snickered a little when they used that word to describe them. I've never seen a more superficial relationship, ever. They threw them together so they could tear them apart...isn't it obvious to the Stelenas by now?
Gross .... lol I seriously just don't understand what these people are watching when they "watch the show." Elena had fallen out of love with Stefan by halfway through season 3! And it was long gone by the time she broke up with him in season 4. And they could not have been clearer about it last season, when they both said it was over and they were now officially friends. "You can either be friends with someone or you can be in love with someone, you can't be both." End of story! Wake up and smell the friend zone Stelenas, its over. Yup and it's darn near impossible to ever go back from there once you fall out of love with someone. A lot of Stelenas are the ones pushing for Bamon now because if they can't have their Stelena they want Delena split up! They aren't fooling me! |
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Post by Doppelgänger on Oct 16, 2014 6:43:01 GMT -5
I don't know WHAT show these people are watching. Are they stuck in season one? And while they are calling Damon a monster why do they never take a good hard look at their beloved Stefan who is also a vampire so cruel he got the moniker of Ripper for it. What about him? I think I could take Stelenas more seriously if they actually looked at all their behavior for what it is, all of it or none of it, but not just put Damon under a microscope to be dissected. In fact I wish they'd act even more like vampires on this show and the writers would stop worrying about people's delicate sensibilities. It's ruined the show how they've tried to make them palatable to the babies by taking away what made them best and most interesting, what made this show unique, their vampire natures. Enough with the pablum! Give me more Damon the vampire any day. I won't be complaining. The complexity of their vampire nature fighting their human nature is what makes vampires so interesting. Why ruin it by making them seem completely human when they aren't?
Comment by a Stelener: So, with Elena being compelled to forget Damon, she is the Elena we used to know. This just shows how much her "love" for Damon changed who she was. And the fact she called him a monster was the icing on the cake, because, that is what he was/is. And I hope she remembers what went on and what she said about him AFTER she gets the memory of Damon back. - TVDsavvy
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2014 7:02:45 GMT -5
Some SE's take the whole love 'changing' a person as if it's some terrible bad thing. Andie gave a speech to Damon in 2x13 (if I'm not mistaken on the ep) about this aspect. It's not some bizarre out of the realm thing that being in a relationship makes you go through changes personality or otherwise. Certainly if you were a bit depressed, withdrawn, finding someone you truly love to spend time with makes you respond in completely different way, you find yourself being more happy, outgoing etc.
But this is fans trying to imprint 'real life' values onto these relationships, a show about vampires. This is fantasy, these characters are morally grey. This isn't sesame street trying to teach you lessons. Still don't get why fans bother with vampire shows if all they're going to do is complain about said vampires being vampires.
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there was I thinking that Elena loved Damon so much, that she didn't want him to go alone, and that if he was going to die, then she wanted to be with him. Did the TVD scriptwriters get it all wrong, when they used the Sire Bond to out Elena, who up until that time was in deep denial about how much she loved Damon, too the point she was willing to choose Stefan who she was no longer in love with rather then face the truth about her feelings
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