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Post by Doppelgänger on May 13, 2016 21:05:28 GMT -5
I seriously do still think they baited BD to see how it did and it failed miserably as the ratings slowly sank and that's why they changed direction with it all. There was just too much baiting to think it was all just misunderstood by the BD fans. While they did explain Damon's 'discomfort' about Bonenzo, that one scene bothered me a lot as you all know and gave the BDers more fuel. They skirted the line with all the 'bestie' stuff to the point that it was laughably unbelievable. The thing about the BD fans is that they ignore the obvious anti-Bamon stuff while believing any shred of BD baiting and that's why they are where they are scratching their heads wondering what happened. Well they didn't pay attention, that's what happened. A good percentage of them are claiming they are quitting the show. I doubt it will make a difference in the ratings come next season. At this point even the ones left have to realize BD can never happen, not where it currently stands. They've barely become friends again with Bonnie saying she forgave Damon and now Damon is off on a dark binge for at least a few episodes where the effort will be to bring him back from that dark place. If it's the last season then Elena will be back at the end of it and I can't say for sure if they won't pull the rug out from under all of us in the end but it sure looks like BD is dead in the water at this point, especially given that Kat and even Ian say they aren't coming back for a season 9. I think Ian can be persuaded with $ if they wanted to keep going but they will let Kat go and if he can't be persuaded then the series will end next season. Definitely, and it started in a Season 6, which is why I quit watching. Boman should have never even had the contrived friendship, IMO. It's been annoying from day 1 and such obvious actor service.Exactly! It seems like they finally got the message that it isn't working, not even on a friend level really so now we are back to Denzo for a while it seems.
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Post by Doppelgänger on May 13, 2016 21:36:37 GMT -5
I just find this really funny coming from a Bamon fan...I mean why can't Bonnie being happy and single be HER happy ending?
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Nina came back on set to do the voice of Elena calling Damon, and JP confirmed again she will be back at the end of the series
Why does that matter? I already knew this, and it doesn’t mean BD won’t happen. You do realize that the show ending with Elena waking up, and not being in a relationship, just with all of her friends, would be a happy ending right?
Elena does not need to be with Damon, or anyone, to be a strong woman or have a happy series ending.
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Post by Doppelgänger on May 13, 2016 21:38:55 GMT -5
And another winner from this same person. Does she not realize what a hypocrite she sounds like? And imagine that, an SE that ships Bamon. What a surprise....not!
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fiercedeception asked: I honestly dont think people get that we dont want Elena to be miserable. We want everybody to be in HEALTHY NON TOXIC relationships or happily by themselves if they choose. But we wont sacrifice Bonnie's happiness just so it can happen cause she deserves it out of all people
Exactly, I don’t want Elena to be miserable. I ship SE for one. But I know unless they break up SC that SE won’t happen. So I would rather have Elena single, happy with her friends for the end of the series over her being with Damon, because they make each other miserable for petes sake!
You are right, if it came down to Bonnie and Elena’s happiness against each other, I will chose Bonnie’s. However, I don’t believe it needs to be that way. They can both be happy. If the show will just allow it.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2016 21:43:53 GMT -5
And another winner from this same person. Does she not realize what a hypocrite she sounds like? And imagine that, an SE that ships Bamon. What a surprise....not! damnbamon fiercedeception asked: I honestly dont think people get that we dont want Elena to be miserable. We want everybody to be in HEALTHY NON TOXIC relationships or happily by themselves if they choose. But we wont sacrifice Bonnie's happiness just so it can happen cause she deserves it out of all people Exactly, I don’t want Elena to be miserable. I ship SE for one. But I know unless they break up SC that SE won’t happen. So I would rather have Elena single, happy with her friends for the end of the series over her being with Damon, because they make each other miserable for petes sake! You are right, if it came down to Bonnie and Elena’s happiness against each other, I will chose Bonnie’s. However, I don’t believe it needs to be that way. They can both be happy. If the show will just allow it. It's funny cause the show is allowing it. Bonnie is happy with Enzo, enough for it to be described as her one true love, and Elena will wake up and reunite with Damon so what are they complaining about happiness again? The SE wants Elena with Stefan and if that can't happen they prefer her to be alone whereas Bonnie gets to be with Damon lol.
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Post by Doppelgänger on May 13, 2016 21:46:38 GMT -5
This is awesome!
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TVD. Bamon fans have no staying power.
Delena fans, remember S3. That is what is called fanbaiting. Oh boy did they keep us wriggling on the hook and hoping for a DE outcome in the Finale.
We had the kisses, the meaningful moments, the sexual tension, the admission of feelings, the other characters taking sides- In other words actual romantic canon moments that DE were in the running as a bona fide ship.
The S3 finale was the cruelest blow for any fandom to go through, especially for a Damon stan. Not only was he romantically rejected for the billionth time after being led by the nose most of the season, but he was left to die alone. Then to top it off he was faced with death by BBF Alaric, only to face the reality that not only had Elena chosen Stefan, she had also DIED minutes later, a fact that was presented to him in the shape of his BFF dying in arms. Damon ended S3 totally alone, grieving the death of the girl he loved and the death of his best friend.
Bamon have no clue what it means to be fan baited, to have their hearts ripped out of their chest. They are flouncing out of the building feeling hard done by after deluding themselves all season long that they were going to get the outcome they wanted even though there was nothing in the narrative to support them or their perceptions. They feel hard done by because they “supported” this season single-handedly because “no one else is watching” and they felt entitled to get what they wanted.
They have been as aggresive and rude as they claim others to be, and they are proving by their childish behaviour that they are fickle fans only interested in insta gratification and not story.
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Post by Doppelgänger on May 13, 2016 21:49:14 GMT -5
They have a good point. We hung on for years of baiting and we're still here...
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Post by de4good on May 14, 2016 0:09:46 GMT -5
I felt like it was more of actor fanservice and the Nian break up that ultimately led to things being written more this way. Bamon's dynamic was pretty much non existent until season 6, and by then Nian were already in the rocks with season 5 giving us only the bare bones of DE scenes. JP invented the contrived friendship because Ian/Kat were excited/wanted to work together more and again Nian's relationship was already rocky. Ian never really even talked so much/promote Bamon in the beginning of the show's lifespan until recently when the Nian break up stuff started happening anyways. Then with that in mind it seemed like even though JP was willing to give them more scenes, she was never really willing to go farther than that. I think as JP said, BDs did look at scenes more as romantic and jealously than what she intended for it to ever be. There's still no confirmed canon feelings of love from either Damon or Bonnie, it's still no sided so I don't really feel like JP did bait anything. A bait feels more like DE in season 3, there were romantic implications all over the place and even a kiss near the last half of the season but she did a complete 180 in the finale. That feels more like a leading fans on moment compared to what BDs are claiming here. honestly i dont think writers were leading d/e fan on in season 3. i think it was more of a buildup to season 4 and sirebond story line. a lot of d/e fan were expecting elena to pick stefan in season 3 finally.. anyone who have seen season 3 with only half a brain can tell elena was completely in love with damon. if she would have chosen damon in season 3 finale the whole season 4 would not have ever happen. just look at season 3 they never make s/e kiss passionate and this show knows how to write a passionate kiss. elena shows zero reaction when stefan kiss her in the end. and in season 4 they make sure elena first time as a vampire should be with damon. actually i felt sorry for s/e fan. they were made to belief that elena only love damon when she become a vampire. havent we read meta after metas from s/e fan about his issue. until the very end writers decided to make everything clear that elena did love damon as a human in season 6. they would have easily written elena saying to damon in season 4 that she love him before she turned. but the writers waited till the very end. s/e fan were made to belief that human elena love stefan and vampire elena love damon. given them hope that ones elena turn human she will go back to stefan. now that is leading fans on. LOL
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2016 7:45:28 GMT -5
I felt like it was more of actor fanservice and the Nian break up that ultimately led to things being written more this way. Bamon's dynamic was pretty much non existent until season 6, and by then Nian were already in the rocks with season 5 giving us only the bare bones of DE scenes. JP invented the contrived friendship because Ian/Kat were excited/wanted to work together more and again Nian's relationship was already rocky. Ian never really even talked so much/promote Bamon in the beginning of the show's lifespan until recently when the Nian break up stuff started happening anyways. Then with that in mind it seemed like even though JP was willing to give them more scenes, she was never really willing to go farther than that. I think as JP said, BDs did look at scenes more as romantic and jealously than what she intended for it to ever be. There's still no confirmed canon feelings of love from either Damon or Bonnie, it's still no sided so I don't really feel like JP did bait anything. A bait feels more like DE in season 3, there were romantic implications all over the place and even a kiss near the last half of the season but she did a complete 180 in the finale. That feels more like a leading fans on moment compared to what BDs are claiming here. honestly i dont think writers were leading d/e fan on in season 3. i think it was more of a buildup to season 4 and sirebond story line. a lot of d/e fan were expecting elena to pick stefan in season 3 finally.. anyone who have seen season 3 with only half a brain can tell elena was completely in love with damon. if she would have chosen damon in season 3 finale the whole season 4 would not have ever happen. just look at season 3 they never make s/e kiss passionate and this show knows how to write a passionate kiss. elena shows zero reaction when stefan kiss her in the end. and in season 4 they make sure elena first time as a vampire should be with damon. actually i felt sorry for s/e fan. they were made to belief that elena only love damon when she become a vampire. havent we read meta after metas from s/e fan about his issue. until the very end writers decided to make everything clear that elena did love damon as a human in season 6. they would have easily written elena saying to damon in season 4 that she love him before she turned. but the writers waited till the very end. s/e fan were made to belief that human elena love stefan and vampire elena love damon. given them hope that ones elena turn human she will go back to stefan. now that is leading fans on. LOL Yes we did get that sire bond story and all, even though that at times was written in a frustrating way, both Damon and Stefan were there when the witch told them point blank how the sire bond worked but they both didn't believe it. Then DE's first time had Stefan and Caroline talking through it and making the implication that DE only slept together because of the sire bond. It was proved wrong by the end of the season of course but there were definitely hit and misses with how JP went about some storylines. Some DE's even felt the sire bond was unnecessary. If Elena had picked Damon in season 3, there would have to be a change with how they went about things. Though as for season 3 leading DE fans on, I'm saying that based on the immense fan reaction of DE's that quit the fandom after the finale. We lost some big DE names, some I followed on twitter at the time that suddenly wanted nothing to do with DE. And we never did get those fans back. It was such an immense backlash from the DE fandom as a whole that it couldn't have just been only just been a few group of DE's who believed DE would happen. Elena's choice for picking Stefan in the finale was based on 'meeting Stefan first' and then JP decides to show a flashback of where Damon did meet her first. What's the point of JP showing us a flashback of Damon meeting her first, it's as if to say, haha Damon did meet her first but she thinks Stefan did so she's sticking with him. SE ended up breaking up in 4x06 of season 4. It just felt like JP unnecessarily dragged things out. Of course in hindsight JP had the storylines move accordingly to fit with what she did, but we still took a big lost in the DE fandom with that season 3 finale. Though I agree with the SE baiting, it was just flat out annoying at times. Stefan had some really dumb lines like, 'Uh oh, Elena's human again, am I switching a Salvatore switch?' It just sounded stupid lol.
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Post by Doppelgänger on May 14, 2016 9:39:33 GMT -5
I felt like it was more of actor fanservice and the Nian break up that ultimately led to things being written more this way. Bamon's dynamic was pretty much non existent until season 6, and by then Nian were already in the rocks with season 5 giving us only the bare bones of DE scenes. JP invented the contrived friendship because Ian/Kat were excited/wanted to work together more and again Nian's relationship was already rocky. Ian never really even talked so much/promote Bamon in the beginning of the show's lifespan until recently when the Nian break up stuff started happening anyways. Then with that in mind it seemed like even though JP was willing to give them more scenes, she was never really willing to go farther than that. I think as JP said, BDs did look at scenes more as romantic and jealously than what she intended for it to ever be. There's still no confirmed canon feelings of love from either Damon or Bonnie, it's still no sided so I don't really feel like JP did bait anything. A bait feels more like DE in season 3, there were romantic implications all over the place and even a kiss near the last half of the season but she did a complete 180 in the finale. That feels more like a leading fans on moment compared to what BDs are claiming here. honestly i dont think writers were leading d/e fan on in season 3. i think it was more of a buildup to season 4 and sirebond story line. a lot of d/e fan were expecting elena to pick stefan in season 3 finally.. anyone who have seen season 3 with only half a brain can tell elena was completely in love with damon. if she would have chosen damon in season 3 finale the whole season 4 would not have ever happen. just look at season 3 they never make s/e kiss passionate and this show knows how to write a passionate kiss. elena shows zero reaction when stefan kiss her in the end. and in season 4 they make sure elena first time as a vampire should be with damon. actually i felt sorry for s/e fan. they were made to belief that elena only love damon when she become a vampire. havent we read meta after metas from s/e fan about his issue. until the very end writers decided to make everything clear that elena did love damon as a human in season 6. they would have easily written elena saying to damon in season 4 that she love him before she turned. but the writers waited till the very end. s/e fan were made to belief that human elena love stefan and vampire elena love damon. given them hope that ones elena turn human she will go back to stefan. now that is leading fans on. LOL True! I gotta admit the SEs got shafted. I actually felt sorry for them a little bit but for me the SE romance was the dullest thing I've ever seen full of lies and secrets and pretending nothing is wrong. It was total make believe, two kids pretending to play house. There was no honesty or deep connection between them other than the desire to have someone help them pretend everything was OK.
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Post by Doppelgänger on May 14, 2016 17:49:23 GMT -5
All those BDers who didn't watch the finale because they heard their ship failed? It didn't make a lick of difference, and while they are claiming that them not watching will make TVD fail, the ptb already know who the viewers are. Do they not think that they do surveys and studies on that sort of thing? They aren't catering to the BD fans because they are not important to the show or the ratings, plain and simple. BDers just need to deal with that reality and get over it. Their ship was never planned and their ship will never sail just because they want it to. That's not how any of this works. The overwhelming majority of the TVD fanbase are Delena fans. We are still here. Just because we aren't screaming about our ship everywhere doesn't mean we aren't still here patiently waiting for Elena's return. We may have lost some people but we have tons more people to lose than the BD fanbase does which struggles to even get a twitter trend going and has to beg other fanbases to help them with polls. Why? Because BD is not a popular ship and the ptb know that. Period. That is the reality that they need to face. Some things are not meant to be. BD as more than friends is one of them.
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Post by Doppelgänger on May 14, 2016 18:15:35 GMT -5
So true! I think they just want to see Bonnie get THE guy, the star of the show, the one to land. Enzo's not good enough for them! I mean the things he said to Bonnie were just so sweet. How could you NOT want her to be loved that way if you care about her? I mean she's not my favorite but damn I nearly cried for the sweetness of that scene. The BD scene that was similar paled in comparison and that's saying something because I love Damon but he doesn't love Bonnie the way Enzo does. That much was made crystal clear with those two scenes and Bonnie resisted killing Enzo and told him to fight her while she hauled off and was gonna stake Damon if not for Matt. Isn't it obvious what all that means?
Delena Is Forever
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The events of the last 48 hours have proven one thing: not only are the Bamon fandom not Damon stans... They're not Bonnie stans either.
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Post by Somerhaldered on May 14, 2016 19:18:47 GMT -5
I started out this scene so annoyed with Bonnie because for a moment there, it looked like she was totally going to kill Enzo without a care in the world. When she walked in that door, I was so in love with Enzo in that moment. Cooking her dinner - wanting one last romantic night and thinking his love might just keep her strong. Then she kicked his a** and staked him and I thought he was a goner - she looked like she could give two sh*ts, but then she started to cry and show her feelings and he was saying the sweetest things. That was the first time I felt like Bonnie was in a good relationship, he loves her so much. Definitely clear that he loves her like a boyfriend and their relationship is stronger than the "love" she and Damon have for each other.
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Post by vampirelust on May 14, 2016 20:28:39 GMT -5
So true! I think they just want to see Bonnie get THE guy, the star of the show, the one to land. Enzo's not good enough for them! I mean the things he said to Bonnie were just so sweet. How could you NOT want her to be loved that way if you care about her? I mean she's not my favorite but damn I nearly cried for the sweetness of that scene. The BD scene that was similar paled in comparison and that's saying something because I love Damon but he doesn't love Bonnie the way Enzo does. That much was made crystal clear with those two scenes and Bonnie resisted killing Enzo and told him to fight her while she hauled off and was gonna stake Damon if not for Matt. Isn't it obvious what all that means? Delena Is Forever @delenasdragon The events of the last 48 hours have proven one thing: not only are the Bamon fandom not Damon stans... They're not Bonnie stans either. And there it is. The truth is nothing will satisfy the bamon fandom and al this talk of racism and anti-Bonnie treatment by the writers is just white noise because they didn't get what they wanted. I'm LMAO because there wasn't even a single Bamon scene really never mind a kiss! The episode gave another reminder that Elena is still Damon's everything and that was the killer blow to the bamon fandom that were waiting for rainbows and unicorns. I am gloating somewhat because i've seen seen and experienced full on hatred from the bamonites if you dare post an anti bamon post on a public articles that still call DE fans dullusional etc. Long live Delena, Bamon fans can suck it.
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Post by vampirelust on May 14, 2016 20:46:05 GMT -5
This is awesome! mydamonheart TVD. Bamon fans have no staying power. Delena fans, remember S3. That is what is called fanbaiting. Oh boy did they keep us wriggling on the hook and hoping for a DE outcome in the Finale. We had the kisses, the meaningful moments, the sexual tension, the admission of feelings, the other characters taking sides- In other words actual romantic canon moments that DE were in the running as a bona fide ship. The S3 finale was the cruelest blow for any fandom to go through, especially for a Damon stan. Not only was he romantically rejected for the billionth time after being led by the nose most of the season, but he was left to die alone. Then to top it off he was faced with death by BBF Alaric, only to face the reality that not only had Elena chosen Stefan, she had also DIED minutes later, a fact that was presented to him in the shape of his BFF dying in arms. Damon ended S3 totally alone, grieving the death of the girl he loved and the death of his best friend. Bamon have no clue what it means to be fan baited, to have their hearts ripped out of their chest. They are flouncing out of the building feeling hard done by after deluding themselves all season long that they were going to get the outcome they wanted even though there was nothing in the narrative to support them or their perceptions. They feel hard done by because they “supported” this season single-handedly because “no one else is watching” and they felt entitled to get what they wanted. They have been as aggresive and rude as they claim others to be, and they are proving by their childish behaviour that they are fickle fans only interested in insta gratification and not story. Christ! S3 is a nightmare I will never forget, well the ending especially. That summer hiatus was excruciatingly devastating and honestly this show came close losing me save for that flashback scene which kept me hanging in there, which I guess is the point this poster is trying to make. The DE fandom were baited relentlessly, and it wasn't until the finale of S4 that we could truly rejoice. 4 years of waiting for our ship to happen, and before that we had to endure countless setbacks and feelings that we were not going to get was we really desired as well as deal with the Stelea fans. . In truth, it took until S6 for the DE story to get true validation by putting the SB and human Elena theory to rest. Even when we got our ship, it was fraught with way too many questions for too long until S6. We waited 6 yrs and still we are waiting, because our ship is still suffering, but we will wait because we believe. The Bamon fans are giving up after one season LMAO. It just goes to show that their belief in their ship is superficial. If they truly believe their ship has merit and the potential to be endgame, they would wait it out, but they don't really, and that is the truth. Current events have made some of them at least recognise that their ship is not a ship, it's a canoe and they need to paddle hard to keep it afloat in turbulent waters when most have already jumped and are swimming for the shore.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2016 21:25:56 GMT -5
So true! I think they just want to see Bonnie get THE guy, the star of the show, the one to land. Enzo's not good enough for them! I mean the things he said to Bonnie were just so sweet. How could you NOT want her to be loved that way if you care about her? I mean she's not my favorite but damn I nearly cried for the sweetness of that scene. The BD scene that was similar paled in comparison and that's saying something because I love Damon but he doesn't love Bonnie the way Enzo does. That much was made crystal clear with those two scenes and Bonnie resisted killing Enzo and told him to fight her while she hauled off and was gonna stake Damon if not for Matt. Isn't it obvious what all that means? Delena Is Forever @delenasdragon The events of the last 48 hours have proven one thing: not only are the Bamon fandom not Damon stans... They're not Bonnie stans either. And there it is. The truth is nothing will satisfy the bamon fandom and al this talk of racism and anti-Bonnie treatment by the writers is just white noise because they didn't get what they wanted. I'm LMAO because there wasn't even a single Bamon scene really never mind a kiss! The episode gave another reminder that Elena is still Damon's everything and that was the killer blow to the bamon fandom that were waiting for rainbows and unicorns. I am gloating somewhat because i've seen seen and experienced full on hatred from the bamonites if you dare post an anti bamon post on a public articles that still call DE fans dullusional etc. Long live Delena, Bamon fans can suck it. Some BDs had put it in their mind that their ship has had this long build up since season 2. Having scenes where the two talk is not the same as getting actual romantic build up. And of course most quickly jumped on that train of the four months justifying their strong friendship/relationship, making it more than it was. Above all the main reason why BDs did not get baited and why there situation is so much different from DE is that right from the start JP/CD came out and said that the Bamon relationship was just a friendship with CD also saying it wouldn't happen along with Kat Graham after a while in an interview. They deluded themselves, we can truly call it that since that's what they did, into thinking that JP/CD were lying for some surprise/shock value. They refused to listen to the writers or even the in canon dialogue, they twisted everything despite the word friend or best friend being thrown around in every single speech of theirs. They kept believing that Damon was in denial or didn't want to admit to anything. And I think it is really true with the above of the Bamon fandom not being Bamon or Damon fans. They're either anti Delena/Elena fans or just Stelena who want to get Damon away from Elena. They never talk like Bonnie or Damon fans so it's finally good to see the true colors come out after constantly trying to play the victim and paint DE's as the big bad wolves.
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