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Post by Doppelgänger on May 16, 2016 20:47:06 GMT -5
Wow...the delusion continues. Some people just never give up. JP telling them they are only friends didn't work. The season seven finale didn't do it. LOL
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I’ll admit it, the finale wasn’t really a finale at all, it was a genuine set-up for next season first and foremost. (It reminded me of Brian’s 7x02 where all we got was a phone call, but it was a wonderful Bamon phone call that showed why Bamon balance each other out so well while also being chocked full of set up for the next episodes–This is very Brian like which is why I’m not as mad now) It didn’t look great for Bamon at all *cue unwanted Delena gloating* ON THE SURFACE, but beneath it all, there is still the strong Bamon subtext like we’ve gotten all season. Here are some indicators:
Bonnie has forgiven Damon.
Although not the kiss and the letter we were hoping for, this is a major step forward for Bamon. With her forgiveness, Damon and Enzo are now truly on the same level in Bonnie’s heart or more correctly triangle. This evens out the odds a bit as opposed to before when Bonnie gunned harder for Enzo because of her anger toward Damon. They are now in good standing with her which means, her true feelings can emerge and she can truly realize who she would rather be with (which is obviously Damon). The fact that both Enzo and Damon went dark signified this- they are equals now (a love triangle) and are ready to compete for Bonnie’s true love title. I know we’re sick of this triangle already, but the writers made the decision for Bonnie to be the center of a love triangle for the final season. Bonnie has essentially replaced Elena as the golden girl (thank god why haven’t they done this sooner) and are using this as the main focal point of next season. Even though I think it would’ve been way smarter if they had given Bamon more interaction, hell give us a something obvious to insinuate more than friends like a stare session with Enzo breaking it up (note: we’ve already gotten this in 7x14 with the blood sharing and Enzo tied to a chair but something with an even more obvious romantic undertone) to tie us over for the next few months but they were confident in this triangle being enough to get viewers to come back so that says a lot. Literally, I would flip my s*** if they had a poster with Bonnie on a throne with Damon and Enzo on both sides of her or some s*** or like the s*** Nina did with Ian and Paul on the covers of Dvds. I WOULD FLIP MY s***! I apologize in advance for raising hopes like I did with the kiss.
The s***tastic Delena sex montage.
Even though I involuntary gag whenever they are on my screen, there is more to this particular fanservice montage that meets the eye, actually a lot more. Pick a random Dullena stanning bitch off a corner, and they would tell you this scene is a beautiful reminder of the EPIC s***TY LOVE that they share, but that is not how this scene was meant to be taken. The symbolism here is what gets me. Damon is in the armory talking on the phone with Bonnie, all he can hear is her voice (special reason I think they have her on the phone for this scene particularly). He gets her forgiveness and is in a happy place as he leaves the armory (toward Bonnie). But, he hears Elena’s voice calling for help whilst seeing their sex scenes, sorry I meant relationship and the monster invades his body, much like his sentiment about their relationship in Season 5. If she thinks I’m a monster, then that’s what I’ll be. I do not take this as coincidence. He hears two voices, but has two different responses. With Bonnie, he is hard-working, selfless, and in his right mind. With Elena, he loses himself and becomes an vicious, unfeeling killing monster with no compassion or empathy for others, or to put it simply Season 5 Damon. And also like @damnbamon pointed out, he was probably not seeing Elena because he was thinking of her, it was most likely the monster accessing his memories. This scene was meant to be taken on a subtext level because it is filled with Bamon goodness.
Damon’s do or die (literally) mentality on saving Bonnie.
Not much to elaborate on here since it pretty much speaks for itself. Damon loves Bonnie, Damon loves Bonnie more than living with Elena, Damon loves Bonnie more than living at all, Damon loves Bonnie in a selfless way, Damon loves the f*** outta Bonnie. This is what we were shown in the season finale. What we are waiting for is this fact to be realized in canon glory: Damon loves Bonnie as more than a soulful best friend. Does he love her romantically now? Hell f***ing yes! They wouldn’t have set him up in the main love triangle for next season if he didn’t. They wouldn’t have shown him being so flippant about dying this episode if he didn’t. I know we are sick of seeing his love under analysis and through his actions over the seasons but that doesn’t change the fact that it is there. He loves Bonnie and is still her romantic interest. They are still building it up to be the main focus of next season and ultimately canon. Yes, I was pissed that we weren’t thrown a bone in terms of concrete romance, but if I’m honest with myself I’m kinda glad with what we got. (Damn myself for hyping up a kiss!) DO NOT GET IT TWISTED!!! The letter is still important, the growth of Damon and Bonnie’s feelings is still important, Enzo’s love and romance with Bonnie is still s*** compared to Bamon’s development and romance (haha sorry Bozo fans). EVERYTHING WAS NOT IN VAIN, EVERYTHING WAS NOT FOR NOTHING, YOUR TIME AND ENERGY ON THIS SHOW AND COUPLE WAS NOT WASTED!!!!!
These examples show that beneath the finale’s surface (and despite those potentially cut scenes–yeah I think they cheated us out of those), there’s is plenty of Bamon to have and to look forward to for next season.
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We are angry and sick of living in subtext and meta land when Bamon is clearly in love and should just f***ing kiss already dammit! I know it’s so easy to disregard all the buildup because we didn’t get a payout and think that they won’t be canon but don’t. We miscalculated, I miscalculated, I thought that finales are the time for all ends of the season to be tied. According to that logic, we would have been right, the letter would have been revealed, Bamon love would have been confessed, and we would’ve gotten the kiss that we more than deserved and waited for. However, the finale was not the end the writers were writing for, they were writing for the end of the series which is definitely Season 8. I am sure the writers really are planning to end the show with Bamon or else they would have made everything more short-term. They’ve been planning this. They know everything will end after season 8, and I’m positive it will end in Bamon. Hell, I’m actually looking forward to Season 8 when I know Bonnie is the golden girl of a love triangle!!!
I don’t know about you all but one of the things I’ve always loved about Bamon was the fact that it wasn’t easy or quick. Caroline looked at Klaus, they did the flirty thing, then they got together. I felt nothing. Elena looked at Damon (Stefan too for that matter), they did the flirty thing, then they got together. I felt nothing. BUT Bonnie looked at Damon, she set him on fire, he bit her, they hate each other, Damon tries to do the flirty thing but Bonnie gives him an aneurysm, they still don’t trust each other, Bonnie saves him, Damon thanks her, they respect each other but at the same time only tolerate each other barely, they do the frienemy thing with dances and ‘actually’ hugs, they died together even though they are the last people they wanna be stuck with, they go grocery shopping, they banter, they became friends, Damon cares about her more than her so called ‘friends’, Bonnie koala-hugs Damon like its the most platonic thing a person can do to a friend, Damon f***s up with her, Bonnie disciplines that ass, Damon becomes a better person, Damon asks her for advice about any and everything, They upgrade to great best friends, Damon carries her princess style after saving her life, They communicate with glances, Bonnie cries at never seeing Damon again like it’s the most platonic thing a person can do, Damon gives her flowers like its the most platonic thing a person can do after being reunited, Bonnie’s pissed he doesn’t know her favorite flowers or coffee drink like Damon knew what his ‘epic’ love’s favorite flowers or coffee drink was, Damon saves Bonnie’s life when she hates his guts for leaving her, Damon still cares about Bonnie even when she’s being ‘Crazy bitch, Bonnie’, Damon says ‘f*** my life and living with my ‘epic’ love’ when saving Bonnie, Bonnie says you’re kinda forgiven mid-banter, They upgrade to soulful best friends, and ….I FEEL EVERYTHING!!!!!!! They have the most history, the most development, the most chemistry. I know it sucks to wait even longer but when the couple isn’t superficial like almost every other relationship on the show, it takes time. This sets them apart and shows why they are THE best couple the show has ever seen! If it was easy like Steroline getting back together in the finale (no offense) I would not be nearly as invested. Steroline is clearly the side focus which is why they get all the lovey scenes. Bamon, being the main focus, is built slower and more carefully like always. However, the end in Season 8 is near and the writers know this and that’s where all the buildup will lead to. Bamon is still on the road to canon, I have no doubt about that. So to my Bamily that threw up deuces, I’m asking and hoping that you’ll “Come back…”
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Post by Doppelgänger on May 16, 2016 21:52:40 GMT -5
I don't even understand what their problem is with Enzo. He really seems to love Bonnie. I mean they did it backwards which is probably never a good idea but then again they did it to us, too with the 'Summer of Love.' But really what is their problem? Why do they want Bonnie to be Damon's fling while Elena sleeps? I don't get it and I guess I never will but if they think Damon Salvatore is THAT shallow that he would fall out of love with Elena just because she isn't around right now, then they don't know him at all. Katherine wasn't around for 140 years. Hello? Bonnie isn't gonna live THAT long. LOL
I mean their entire ship is a huge uphill battle and they all act like it is right on the brink of happening. Are they crazy? It's nowhere near happening and JP says it isn't even on her radar right now so ya know, unless TVD last 10+ years it's not happening. They need to get real. The finale all but slammed the door shut and yet some of them are still thinking it's about to happen?? What are they on?
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2016 22:07:38 GMT -5
I got halfway through but I had to stop at the part with DE's montage being about sex scenes. This entire post was just written with blinders on. And it is always funny how Bamons keep bringing up a triangle in regards to Bonenzo and say things like, 'Now Bonnie will get to pick who she truly wants to be with'. It's like they don't want to deal with the fact that Bonnie is in love with Enzo and wants to be with Enzo, she's already made a choice yet they keep projecting their Bamon fantasies onto the character to make it seem like she's in denial with non-existent feelings of Damon.
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Post by Doppelgänger on May 16, 2016 22:22:27 GMT -5
I got halfway through but I had to stop at the part with DE's montage being about sex scenes. This entire post was just written with blinders on. And it is always funny how Bamons keep bringing up a triangle in regards to Bonenzo and say things like, 'Now Bonnie will get to pick who she truly wants to be with'. It's like they don't want to deal with the fact that Bonnie is in love with Enzo and wants to be with Enzo, she's already made a choice yet they keep projecting their Bamon fantasies onto the character to make it seem like she's in denial with non-existent feelings of Damon. I know...I actually find it entertaining to read their stuff cause it's so off the mark that it's hilarious to read. I feel like JP made it crystal clear. I mean if she (or CD if she was an EP at the time) had EVER said DE was not gonna happen we'd have all abandoned ship. They're at a whole new level of denial, deeper than we've ever seen in this fandom. (OK maybe except for Nian still being together...LOL) Even THAT was entertaining to read...like who are these people that create their own reality? I find it fascinating in a weird psychological curiosity kind of way... |
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Post by de4good on May 17, 2016 3:04:15 GMT -5
Wow...the delusion continues. Some people just never give up. JP telling them they are only friends didn't work. The season seven finale didn't do it. LOL thecrazyapple18 I’ll admit it, the finale wasn’t really a finale at all, it was a genuine set-up for next season first and foremost. (It reminded me of Brian’s 7x02 where all we got was a phone call, but it was a wonderful Bamon phone call that showed why Bamon balance each other out so well while also being chocked full of set up for the next episodes–This is very Brian like which is why I’m not as mad now) It didn’t look great for Bamon at all *cue unwanted Delena gloating* ON THE SURFACE, but beneath it all, there is still the strong Bamon subtext like we’ve gotten all season. Here are some indicators: Bonnie has forgiven Damon. Although not the kiss and the letter we were hoping for, this is a major step forward for Bamon. With her forgiveness, Damon and Enzo are now truly on the same level in Bonnie’s heart or more correctly triangle. This evens out the odds a bit as opposed to before when Bonnie gunned harder for Enzo because of her anger toward Damon. They are now in good standing with her which means, her true feelings can emerge and she can truly realize who she would rather be with (which is obviously Damon). The fact that both Enzo and Damon went dark signified this- they are equals now (a love triangle) and are ready to compete for Bonnie’s true love title. I know we’re sick of this triangle already, but the writers made the decision for Bonnie to be the center of a love triangle for the final season. Bonnie has essentially replaced Elena as the golden girl (thank god why haven’t they done this sooner) and are using this as the main focal point of next season. Even though I think it would’ve been way smarter if they had given Bamon more interaction, hell give us a something obvious to insinuate more than friends like a stare session with Enzo breaking it up (note: we’ve already gotten this in 7x14 with the blood sharing and Enzo tied to a chair but something with an even more obvious romantic undertone) to tie us over for the next few months but they were confident in this triangle being enough to get viewers to come back so that says a lot. Literally, I would flip my s*** if they had a poster with Bonnie on a throne with Damon and Enzo on both sides of her or some s*** or like the s*** Nina did with Ian and Paul on the covers of Dvds. I WOULD FLIP MY s***! I apologize in advance for raising hopes like I did with the kiss. The s***tastic Delena sex montage. Even though I involuntary gag whenever they are on my screen, there is more to this particular fanservice montage that meets the eye, actually a lot more. Pick a random Dullena stanning bitch off a corner, and they would tell you this scene is a beautiful reminder of the EPIC s***TY LOVE that they share, but that is not how this scene was meant to be taken. The symbolism here is what gets me. Damon is in the armory talking on the phone with Bonnie, all he can hear is her voice (special reason I think they have her on the phone for this scene particularly). He gets her forgiveness and is in a happy place as he leaves the armory (toward Bonnie). But, he hears Elena’s voice calling for help whilst seeing their sex scenes, sorry I meant relationship and the monster invades his body, much like his sentiment about their relationship in Season 5. If she thinks I’m a monster, then that’s what I’ll be. I do not take this as coincidence. He hears two voices, but has two different responses. With Bonnie, he is hard-working, selfless, and in his right mind. With Elena, he loses himself and becomes an vicious, unfeeling killing monster with no compassion or empathy for others, or to put it simply Season 5 Damon. And also like @damnbamon pointed out, he was probably not seeing Elena because he was thinking of her, it was most likely the monster accessing his memories. This scene was meant to be taken on a subtext level because it is filled with Bamon goodness. Damon’s do or die (literally) mentality on saving Bonnie. Not much to elaborate on here since it pretty much speaks for itself. Damon loves Bonnie, Damon loves Bonnie more than living with Elena, Damon loves Bonnie more than living at all, Damon loves Bonnie in a selfless way, Damon loves the f*** outta Bonnie. This is what we were shown in the season finale. What we are waiting for is this fact to be realized in canon glory: Damon loves Bonnie as more than a soulful best friend. Does he love her romantically now? Hell f***ing yes! They wouldn’t have set him up in the main love triangle for next season if he didn’t. They wouldn’t have shown him being so flippant about dying this episode if he didn’t. I know we are sick of seeing his love under analysis and through his actions over the seasons but that doesn’t change the fact that it is there. He loves Bonnie and is still her romantic interest. They are still building it up to be the main focus of next season and ultimately canon. Yes, I was pissed that we weren’t thrown a bone in terms of concrete romance, but if I’m honest with myself I’m kinda glad with what we got. (Damn myself for hyping up a kiss!) DO NOT GET IT TWISTED!!! The letter is still important, the growth of Damon and Bonnie’s feelings is still important, Enzo’s love and romance with Bonnie is still s*** compared to Bamon’s development and romance (haha sorry Bozo fans). EVERYTHING WAS NOT IN VAIN, EVERYTHING WAS NOT FOR NOTHING, YOUR TIME AND ENERGY ON THIS SHOW AND COUPLE WAS NOT WASTED!!!!! These examples show that beneath the finale’s surface (and despite those potentially cut scenes–yeah I think they cheated us out of those), there’s is plenty of Bamon to have and to look forward to for next season. image We are angry and sick of living in subtext and meta land when Bamon is clearly in love and should just f***ing kiss already dammit! I know it’s so easy to disregard all the buildup because we didn’t get a payout and think that they won’t be canon but don’t. We miscalculated, I miscalculated, I thought that finales are the time for all ends of the season to be tied. According to that logic, we would have been right, the letter would have been revealed, Bamon love would have been confessed, and we would’ve gotten the kiss that we more than deserved and waited for. However, the finale was not the end the writers were writing for, they were writing for the end of the series which is definitely Season 8. I am sure the writers really are planning to end the show with Bamon or else they would have made everything more short-term. They’ve been planning this. They know everything will end after season 8, and I’m positive it will end in Bamon. Hell, I’m actually looking forward to Season 8 when I know Bonnie is the golden girl of a love triangle!!! I don’t know about you all but one of the things I’ve always loved about Bamon was the fact that it wasn’t easy or quick. Caroline looked at Klaus, they did the flirty thing, then they got together. I felt nothing. Elena looked at Damon (Stefan too for that matter), they did the flirty thing, then they got together. I felt nothing. BUT Bonnie looked at Damon, she set him on fire, he bit her, they hate each other, Damon tries to do the flirty thing but Bonnie gives him an aneurysm, they still don’t trust each other, Bonnie saves him, Damon thanks her, they respect each other but at the same time only tolerate each other barely, they do the frienemy thing with dances and ‘actually’ hugs, they died together even though they are the last people they wanna be stuck with, they go grocery shopping, they banter, they became friends, Damon cares about her more than her so called ‘friends’, Bonnie koala-hugs Damon like its the most platonic thing a person can do to a friend, Damon f***s up with her, Bonnie disciplines that ass, Damon becomes a better person, Damon asks her for advice about any and everything, They upgrade to great best friends, Damon carries her princess style after saving her life, They communicate with glances, Bonnie cries at never seeing Damon again like it’s the most platonic thing a person can do, Damon gives her flowers like its the most platonic thing a person can do after being reunited, Bonnie’s pissed he doesn’t know her favorite flowers or coffee drink like Damon knew what his ‘epic’ love’s favorite flowers or coffee drink was, Damon saves Bonnie’s life when she hates his guts for leaving her, Damon still cares about Bonnie even when she’s being ‘Crazy bitch, Bonnie’, Damon says ‘f*** my life and living with my ‘epic’ love’ when saving Bonnie, Bonnie says you’re kinda forgiven mid-banter, They upgrade to soulful best friends, and ….I FEEL EVERYTHING!!!!!!! They have the most history, the most development, the most chemistry. I know it sucks to wait even longer but when the couple isn’t superficial like almost every other relationship on the show, it takes time. This sets them apart and shows why they are THE best couple the show has ever seen! If it was easy like Steroline getting back together in the finale (no offense) I would not be nearly as invested. Steroline is clearly the side focus which is why they get all the lovey scenes. Bamon, being the main focus, is built slower and more carefully like always. However, the end in Season 8 is near and the writers know this and that’s where all the buildup will lead to. Bamon is still on the road to canon, I have no doubt about that. So to my Bamily that threw up deuces, I’m asking and hoping that you’ll “Come back…” bold part is mine. Damon and Enzo are now truly on the same level in Bonnie’s heart or more correctly triangle what?? So enzo also love bonnie like elena did??
They are now in good standing with her which means, her true feelings can emerge and she can truly realize who she would rather be with (which is obviously Damon) Well I guess her saying she love enzo doesn’t matter. And whether damon wants to be with bonnie doesn’t matter either. Bonnie will just torture him until he caves. LOL
The fact that both Enzo and Damon went dark signified this- they are equals now (a love triangle) and are ready to compete for Bonnie’s true love title well the triangle between her boyfriend(enzo) whom she loved and her feeling for him were strong enough to be able to stop her from stacking him. She begged him to fight back. Said she always want to be love like he loved her. Vs damon who claimed he love her like a sister and bonnie being huntress can also sense that. And part of him want her dead and only save her because of elena as bonnie said her being huntress and all. That is one of the weirdest triangle I have ever seen..
I know we’re sick of this triangle already, but the writers made the decision for Bonnie to be the center of a love triangle for the final season. what? Well its seems like the triangle is not only been well established canon in the show.. its being going on quite a while now. That most of the fan are getting sick of it. my guess is 5 or 6 season give or take 10 seasons.
Bonnie has essentially replaced Elena as the golden girl (thank god why haven’t they done this sooner) may be because nina was part of tvd and Candice king wasn’t pregnant.. and I think caroline will replace elena in season 8. They were going with this in season 6 but because of her pregnancy issues she was sidelined and if finale is any indication she is back on that role.
Even though I think it would’ve been way smarter if they had given Bamon more interaction, hell give us a something obvious to insinuate more than friends like a stare session with Enzo breaking it up (note: we’ve already gotten this in 7x14 with the blood sharing and Enzo tied to a chair but something with an even more obvious romantic undertone) to tie us over for the next few months but they were confident in this triangle being enough to get viewers to come back so that says a lot. well I guess damon saying he love bonnie like elena did (like a sister) can’t convince these stupid delena fan how obvious romantic damon and bonnie are nothing can convince them.
I would flip my s*** if they had a poster with Bonnie on a throne with Damon and Enzo on both sides of her well I am sure you will flip your s*** .. but it will be of whole different reasons..Pick a random Dullena stanning bitch off a corner, and they would tell you this scene is a beautiful reminder of the EPIC s***TY LOVE that they share, but that is not how this scene was meant to be taken. The symbolism here is what gets me. Damon is in the armory talking on the phone with Bonnie, all he can hear is her voice (special reason I think they have her on the phone for this scene particularly). He gets her forgiveness and is in a happy place as he leaves the armory (toward Bonnie). But, he hears Elena’s voice calling for help whilst seeing their sex scenes, sorry I meant relationship and the monster invades his body, much like his sentiment about their relationship in Season 5. If she thinks I’m a monster, then that’s what I’ll be. I do not take this as coincidence. He hears two voices, but has two different responses. With Bonnie, he is hard-working, selfless, and in his right mind. With Elena, he loses himself and becomes an vicious, unfeeling killing monster with no compassion or empathy for others, or to put it simply Season 5 Damon. And also like @damnbamon pointed out, he was probably not seeing Elena because he was thinking of her, it was most likely the monster accessing his memories. This scene was meant to be taken on a subtext level because it is filled with Bamon goodness. considering the fact that damon cant walk away if there is even one millionth of a chance that elena can be in danger. Even the slight possibility that elena might in danger no matter how illogical it is.. don’t speaks the fact how much he love her I don’t know what will. Take only season 7 every person writers have introduced knows how much damon love elena. Lilly, julian, Rayna, and now even the big bad with creepy hands whose been captured for a long time. knows how much damon loves elena.. like its been broadcast across the world on daily basis.. except these bamon fans.
Not much to elaborate on here since it pretty much speaks for itself. Damon loves Bonnie, Damon loves Bonnie more than living with Elena, Damon loves Bonnie more than living at all, Damon loves Bonnie in a selfless way, Damon loves the f*** outta Bonnie. This is what we were shown in the season finale. What we are waiting for is this fact to be realized in canon glory: Damon loves Bonnie as more than a soulful best friend. Does he love her romantically now? Hell f***ing yes! They wouldn’t have set him up in the main love triangle for next season if he didn’t. They wouldn’t have shown him being so flippant about dying this episode if he didn’t. I know we are sick of seeing his love under analysis and through his actions over the seasons but that doesn’t change the fact that it is there. He loves Bonnie and is still her romantic interest. They are still building it up to be the main focus of next season and ultimately canon. Yes, I was pissed that we weren’t thrown a bone in terms of concrete romance, but if I’m honest with myself I’m kinda glad with what we got. (Damn myself for hyping up a kiss!) DO NOT GET IT TWISTED!!! The letter is still important, the growth of Damon and Bonnie’s feelings is still important, Enzo’s love and romance with Bonnie is still s*** compared to Bamon’s development and romance (haha sorry Bozo fans). EVERYTHING WAS NOT IN VAIN, EVERYTHING WAS NOT FOR NOTHING, YOUR TIME AND ENERGY ON THIS SHOW AND COUPLE WAS NOT WASTED!!!!! considering he will also do that for Stefan. Damon must be gay and have fallen In love with Stefan. Lets make that triangle into a rectangle. actually He did this for all of his friends. He took a werewolf bite for caroline and nearly died.. as for damon living with elena. I was having debate with one of my friend (damon stan) the other day. I think damon still did not realized how much elena loves him. Because all of that moments happen when he was not with her. He did not know how much she was crying when she was going back to Stefan. Ya he hears her on the phone but hearing someone and seeing them are two different things. He did not know how she told Stefan to shove the cure down damon throat. What she told rubekkah during compulsion. How much she was broken when damon died. damon put elena happiness above everything. and at this point he think bonnie living her full life make elena more happy then him surviving to spend her life with... But I guess different delena fans have different take on this. As for letter.. ya that letter is dropped just like liz letter. Whats a point of that letter now since bonnie has forgiven damon…bonanz0 romance is s*** compared to bamon romance??? Wow.. as for damon loves bonnie more than living.. damon is the character in tvd with the least self-worth if you know a little about his character such a thing would not come as a shock to you….
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Post by Somerhaldered on May 17, 2016 8:29:14 GMT -5
I got halfway through but I had to stop at the part with DE's montage being about sex scenes. This entire post was just written with blinders on. And it is always funny how Bamons keep bringing up a triangle in regards to Bonenzo and say things like, 'Now Bonnie will get to pick who she truly wants to be with'. It's like they don't want to deal with the fact that Bonnie is in love with Enzo and wants to be with Enzo, she's already made a choice yet they keep projecting their Bamon fantasies onto the character to make it seem like she's in denial with non-existent feelings of Damon. Oh my gosh, I couldn't read any more past that either. The delusions are just too much! I. Can't. Even. The whole, 'being on the phone with Bonnie and hearing Elena's voice' paragraph is just insane. This stuff is so far fetched it's laughable. So, they completely disregarded the ENTIRE Bonenzo scene where he professed his love and she fought to not kill him? Uh, OK. Let's just change the channel for a couple minutes and come back when Damon calls, lol. The fact that she can spin that call to be anything romantic, when Damon immediately dropped everything when he heard Elena's voice -- I just can't. Their stupidity isn't worth my time talking about it. |
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Post by vampirelust on May 17, 2016 15:52:06 GMT -5
de4good. Yep, pretty much. My jaw is aching from all the hanging open it did while reading that incredibly long post that is worlds or even a whole universe away from the show i'm watching. My favorite part was how this fan has deluded herself that Bonnie is going to be the center of a love triangle AKA Elena #2. Such a leap considering where Damon is emotionally, and presumptuous to think Damon will fall out of love with Elena so quickly, LMAO. The whole scenario is based on Bonnie being the one to choose her lover!!!! I would say there is more chance of a denzo romance than a bamon one at this point lol. Seriously though, c'mon. I can buy that Bonnie felt more than platonic love for Damon at the time he chose to dessicate, hence why she was so mad at him, BUT I have never bought that Damon has ANY romantic feelings for Bonnie. NEVER. As Doppel stated, that is one hell of a mountain to climb for Bamon, especially with Elena in the picture. Looking towards next season, Damon and Enzo can't love anyone as long as they are in the thrall of whatever is affecting them, so the immediate drama will be untangling that mess....hence no time for love drama, so I think the THRONE will have to wait a tad longer!! I think the writers have done the best they can with Damon's story arc for next season given the corner they have written themselves into. They have done the DE story justice and proved without a doubt that Damon is as just steadfastly in love with Elena as ever, but they needed to do something else with him next season, and this will do nicely as a stop gap before the road to DE continues in it's final stretch, because I honestly do feel like this season will be the last. Ian is leaving, so Damon's story needs to end and I don't see it ending without resolving DE. Enzo coming along for the ride in S8 will be the obligatory angst afforded to every ship on TVD.
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Post by Doppelgänger on May 18, 2016 21:28:01 GMT -5
How he really feels....and Bonnie said she knows it, too...
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Post by de4good on May 18, 2016 23:29:16 GMT -5
ok i was talking to a bamon fan and she said that ian will leave and will not shoot d/e scene in the end. i mean how stupid can someone get. he is on a fcking contract. he is a fuking actor. he will get sued and no one will hire him if he pulled that kind of fkery.. do they honestly belief that ian will risk all that for their small boat.. good luck with that..
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Post by Doppelgänger on May 19, 2016 6:14:53 GMT -5
ok i was talking to a bamon fan and she said that ian will leave and will not shoot d/e scene in the end. i mean how stupid can someone get. he is on a fcking contract. he is a fuking actor. he will get sued and no one will hire him if he pulled that kind of fkery.. do they honestly belief that ian will risk all that for their small boat.. good luck with that.. Yeah that would ruin his career and why would he do that? I don't believe he is THAT stupid nor that upset about filming more scenes with Nina, especially if it ends up being just a few more. Even if he was bitter over their breakup, which from what I've been told is not true, I still don't see him doing something like this. I mean he was sad about it, but word was he did the breaking up, not her, despite what the Dobrevics believe. So I can't imagine he'd be the one with a problem with it, other than the obvious ick factor of having to kiss your ex. |
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2016 9:04:01 GMT -5
In my opinion it's a bit hard for me to not raise an eyebrow at Ian's 180 that he did regarding his views of Delena/Elena vs Bamon/Bonnie especially if there were no hard feelings and he did the breaking up in the end. Then it feels like it should be easier for him to be able to separate fiction from reality to treat Delena and the Elena character as the fictional entities that they are instead of bringing up his marriage when people were asking about a Delena marriage in the end or why he would push for Bamon so hard after the breakup and said plenty of things during the course of the season that sounded absurd and was even posted and called out in here for some of the things said.
And this isn't me pointing fingers and trying to play the blame game on who did what. I don't follow any of these actors outside of the show so I'm not 'team' anyone or care which one broke up with the other first. All I know is basing it off of things said at cons, article interviews etc. I find the behavior odd that suddenly Delena was talked in a more negative light/ignored by Ian than normal. I'm sure fans would come to the same speculations if Nina was still on board and suddenly she was talking about how great Stelena and Stefan was for Elena's character and hoped they would get back together in the end then they would feel that she was still upset over the break up and didn't want to act any scenes with Ian or something. These are things fans will pick up especially if it's so sudden and out of the blue. If anything there's the possibility of stunt doubles as was spotted in season 6, but I don't see Ian suddenly leaving the show before the end to avoid a Delena scene, that wouldn't make sense anyways so I doubt that. This is just a last resort by Bamons who know it's over for their ship but they still want one last one up over the Delena fans.
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Post by Doppelgänger on May 19, 2016 9:24:50 GMT -5
In my opinion it's a bit hard for me to not raise an eyebrow at Ian's 180 that he did regarding his views of Delena/Elena vs Bamon/Bonnie especially if there were no hard feelings and he did the breaking up in the end. Then it feels like it should be easier for him to be able to separate fiction from reality to treat Delena and the Elena character as the fictional entities that they are instead of bringing up his marriage when people were asking about a Delena marriage in the end or why he would push for Bamon so hard after the breakup and said plenty of things during the course of the season that sounded absurd and was even posted and called out in here for some of the things said. And this isn't me pointing fingers and trying to play the blame game on who did what. I don't follow any of these actors outside of the show so I'm not 'team' anyone or care which one broke up with the other first. All I know is basing it off of things said at cons, article interviews etc. I find the behavior odd that suddenly Delena was talked in a more negative light/ignored by Ian than normal. I'm sure fans would come to the same speculations if Nina was still on board and suddenly she was talking about how great Stelena and Stefan was for Elena's character and hoped they would get back together in the end then they would feel that she was still upset over the break up and didn't want to act any scenes with Ian or something. These are things fans will pick up especially if it's so sudden and out of the blue. If anything there's the possibility of stunt doubles as was spotted in season 6, but I don't see Ian suddenly leaving the show before the end to avoid a Delena scene, that wouldn't make sense anyways so I doubt that. This is just a last resort by Bamons who know it's over for their ship but they still want one last one up over the Delena fans. I think a lot of his sourness comes from the fact that the Nina fans have been so brutal to him and Nikki and him mentioning his marriage is a way to hint that his real life is separate from the fiction that is TVD even though it came off weirdly. I don't think it's because he hates Nina necessarily but he sure doesn't like her fans right now and the way they treat him and Nikki so maybe in his mind, they would go away if DE were really over. I don't think they will go away until TVD is over though or maybe not even then! So I can't really say that it's personal toward Nina. It might be, but it's more likely it's because of the way the fans have treated him that he has become more anti DE. That's my thinking on it anyway. It doesn't really matter who broke up with who anyway. It may matter how they treated each other afterwards but that we'll never know. It was pretty obvious, to me anyway, that there were hard feelings despite what either of them said and I do think Nina's departure whether by choice or not, was because of the difficulty working together post breakup. I mean would that be easy? Hell no! However, again, we will never know anything for sure unless someone does a 'tell all' after the fact. I still think that they could both work together for a few episodes to wrap the series up. I would think enough time has passed and they are both professional enough to manage that. Heck there's even been rumors that Nina might be back for more of season 8. If I ever believed that they were incapable of working together than I would be disappointed in the both of them for ever dating in the first place cause this is what happens! I would also have to conclude that our end game would not be what we want it to be because they'd balk at any major DE scenes happening so I have to believe that they are both on board for it no matter what they might feel about each other. |
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Post by de4good on May 19, 2016 9:32:50 GMT -5
In my opinion it's a bit hard for me to not raise an eyebrow at Ian's 180 that he did regarding his views of Delena/Elena vs Bamon/Bonnie especially if there were no hard feelings and he did the breaking up in the end. Then it feels like it should be easier for him to be able to separate fiction from reality to treat Delena and the Elena character as the fictional entities that they are instead of bringing up his marriage when people were asking about a Delena marriage in the end or why he would push for Bamon so hard after the breakup and said plenty of things during the course of the season that sounded absurd and was even posted and called out in here for some of the things said. And this isn't me pointing fingers and trying to play the blame game on who did what. I don't follow any of these actors outside of the show so I'm not 'team' anyone or care which one broke up with the other first. All I know is basing it off of things said at cons, article interviews etc. I find the behavior odd that suddenly Delena was talked in a more negative light/ignored by Ian than normal. I'm sure fans would come to the same speculations if Nina was still on board and suddenly she was talking about how great Stelena and Stefan was for Elena's character and hoped they would get back together in the end then they would feel that she was still upset over the break up and didn't want to act any scenes with Ian or something. These are things fans will pick up especially if it's so sudden and out of the blue. If anything there's the possibility of stunt doubles as was spotted in season 6, but I don't see Ian suddenly leaving the show before the end to avoid a Delena scene, that wouldn't make sense anyways so I doubt that. This is just a last resort by Bamons who know it's over for their ship but they still want one last one up over the Delena fans. i also think that is what they want.. most of them dont even care about bamon they just dont want delena to happen. |
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Post by Doppelgänger on May 19, 2016 9:43:08 GMT -5
In my opinion it's a bit hard for me to not raise an eyebrow at Ian's 180 that he did regarding his views of Delena/Elena vs Bamon/Bonnie especially if there were no hard feelings and he did the breaking up in the end. Then it feels like it should be easier for him to be able to separate fiction from reality to treat Delena and the Elena character as the fictional entities that they are instead of bringing up his marriage when people were asking about a Delena marriage in the end or why he would push for Bamon so hard after the breakup and said plenty of things during the course of the season that sounded absurd and was even posted and called out in here for some of the things said. And this isn't me pointing fingers and trying to play the blame game on who did what. I don't follow any of these actors outside of the show so I'm not 'team' anyone or care which one broke up with the other first. All I know is basing it off of things said at cons, article interviews etc. I find the behavior odd that suddenly Delena was talked in a more negative light/ignored by Ian than normal. I'm sure fans would come to the same speculations if Nina was still on board and suddenly she was talking about how great Stelena and Stefan was for Elena's character and hoped they would get back together in the end then they would feel that she was still upset over the break up and didn't want to act any scenes with Ian or something. These are things fans will pick up especially if it's so sudden and out of the blue. If anything there's the possibility of stunt doubles as was spotted in season 6, but I don't see Ian suddenly leaving the show before the end to avoid a Delena scene, that wouldn't make sense anyways so I doubt that. This is just a last resort by Bamons who know it's over for their ship but they still want one last one up over the Delena fans. i also think that is what they want.. most of them dont even care about bamon they just dont want delena to happen. Right! All of this is coming from the Bamon fans, not Ian himself. |
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Post by vampirelust on May 19, 2016 13:04:25 GMT -5
The Bamon fans are trolling the Benzo fans with talk of Kat disliking Michael Malarkey........ Obviously not true if you watch any of the footage from the Convention last weekend. It would seem it's just more of the same with shippers s*** stirring and creating drama from thin air. @doppelganger- I agree, there definitely was some tension and bitterness between Nian, I think they were both very sad for quite a while and I believe there were some attempts or an attempt at a reconciliation that did not work out, which probably just ended up drawing out the hurt so to speak. Ian's 180 on Delena coincides very much with his relationship with Nikki and I suspect there was some tension between the women. Just to be clear, i'm not saying any of this is Nikki's fault, just that the timing of all this angst and drama fits with Ian's change in attitude. |
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Well its seems like the triangle is not only been well established canon in the show.. its being going on quite a while now. That most of the fan are getting sick of it. my guess is 5 or 6 season give or take 10 seasons. 
