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Post by Doppelgänger on Aug 17, 2014 15:52:48 GMT -5
I should point out to anyone reading that might not know, that the anti boards is the only place to go to complain about certain fan groups or ships that we don't like very much...so we have that board for venting stuff so we don't vent it all over the place! But it's NOT to complain about another board member. That's not allowed anywhere except in my inbox...lol
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Post by Doppelgänger on Aug 17, 2014 15:57:00 GMT -5
I'm not even very sure why we are talking about the book relationships since they are quite a bit different than the show relationships. For them to put show Bamon together would be quite a leap. I'm not saying they wouldn't do it, because who knows, really with these writers, but I do think it would be a huge mistake and would lose them even more of their audience. What they need to do is put Delena together and let us see them happy for a little while before they make the sky fall on them again.
I'd move these posts if I knew where to put them but since I don't have a 'Book Bamon' thread, I'll just leave them alone. Back to the original topic of the thread, I think the show COULD survive without Paul and possibly it could survive without Nina, although that would be a bigger blow, but it definitely would not survive without Ian. |
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Post by Doppelgänger on Aug 17, 2014 16:11:16 GMT -5
Here's an interesting theory, which if Nina is actually the one who doesn't want to come back for season 7, she could easily just be gone forever at that point and the rest of the gang would have to go on:
New 'The Vampire Diaries' Damon Theory For Season 6: Elena Will Die To Get Him Back
www.bustle.com/articles/29642-new-the-vampire-diaries-damon-theory-for-season-6-elena-will-die-to-get-him-back
Kaitlin Reilly •@reillytweets
Prepare yourself for a whole new Vampire Diaries in Season 6. The Vampire Diaries ended its fifth season with a very literal “bang,” in the form of a bomb that knocked out the Mystic Grill. (Matt will have to start looking for a new part-time job, I suppose.) Unfortunately for our supernatural friends, the Mystic Grill wasn’t the only thing to go: beloved characters Damon and Bonnie were also offed in the finale. Naturally, the person most upset about this was Elena — not only did she lose her best friend for the second time to death, but she also lost the great love of her life. (Well, one of them, at least.) The Vampire Diaries returns October 2, which leaves us plenty of time the theorize how Damon (and Ian Somerhalder by proxy) is coming back and I think that Elena might play a vital part in his return.
We already know that Ian Somerhalder is contracted through Season 6 of the show, and that Kat Graham said Bonnie would be back in some capacity, so it’s likely that these two are far from gone. While it’s unclear how Bonnie will return (Graham told TVLine that she’ll be back, though she failed to give details about the how and why of it all), there’s no way that the show is downgrading Damon from one half of Delena to a ghost who sometimes chills with his supernatural friends, Lexi-style. It’s just not going to happen, and that means that Damon is going to find his way back to the Mystic Falls gang… and this time around, we think it could be Elena who saves him.
Damon has always put Elena before just about everything and everyone else, and now that Elena has lost Damon, there’s no doubt in my mind that she’ll try to do the same for him. Unfortunately, it won’t be easy to get Damon back — right now, it seems almost impossible. The show certainly won’t make it easy for Elena to reunite with her lost love, and given that Bonnie isn’t around to make magic happen, I’m thinking that Elena is going to have to be thrown through the ringer to find Damon and bring him home. How could she do that? By dying. Crazy, I know, but stay with me.
The main problem with bringing Damon back is that no one knows where he is. When Jeremy died, the gang knew that he was just on the Other Side, where all the supernatural zombies hung out. Bringing someone back from the Other Side wasn’t particularly simple (Bonnie died in the process of bringing Jeremy back), but it was cut-and-dry.
If you were willing to challenge the natural magic of things and make a major sacrifice, you could, in all likelihood, bring a loved one back. Now? Totally not the case. What if, in order to get Damon back, Elena has to physically follow him into the mysterious plane? And the only way to do that is to die? There’s no way that Elena would ever give up on trying to get Damon back. Her love is stronger than her fear of the oblivion… which may mean that she is willing to confront that fear head on.
If Elena does decide to find Damon wherever he’s landed in death, she may have to go it alone. After the massive death that her friends have seen at the end of last season, there’s no way that they will be ready for Elena to sacrifice herself in the hopes that she can find a way to return with Damon and Bonnie. Even Stefan, the only person who might feel the pain of losing Damon as strongly as Elena does, might not be able to stomach Elena leaving without a solid plan of return. Without the support of her friends, Elena could go totally rogue — and, hopefully, prove everyone wrong by successfully bringing back her boo.
After all, what would The Vampire Diaries even be without scenes like this?
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Post by Charlotte on Aug 17, 2014 17:42:51 GMT -5
I don't think we can look too much to the books to see where JP and company go with S6 or S7. (I read the books and thought the writing was horrible--doesn't Caroline rip up pieces of Elena's diary in book 1? TV Caroline is a much more interesting character.) But regardless, it seems to me that the shoutouts they have done to book fans have been just that --shoutouts that don't really change the direction that JP and KW had in mind from their conception of the show. I think KW said he was not interested in doing a tv series about a triangle, but once it was explained it was actually a storyline about a town, he became interested. (Or maybe Ian said that..)
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Post by Doppelgänger on Aug 17, 2014 18:59:37 GMT -5
I don't think we can look too much to the books to see where JP and company go with S6 or S7. (I read the books and thought the writing was horrible--doesn't Caroline rip up pieces of Elena's diary in book 1? TV Caroline is a much more interesting character.) But regardless, it seems to me that the shoutouts they have done to book fans have been just that --shoutouts that don't really change the direction that JP and KW had in mind from their conception of the show. I think KW said he was not interested in doing a tv series about a triangle, but once it was explained it was actually a storyline about a town, he became interested. (Or maybe Ian said that..) You are right about that! For instance Meredith was a major character in the books and she sure wasn't in the TV show. It's kind of a shame because she was a very strong female character. Caroline was horrible and more an enemy than a friend to Elena and Bonnie was a frail little red head that fainted at the drop of a hat, totally NOT like Bonnie on the TV show who is a much stronger character. So while they used the names and friendships and even some of the storylines they altered a lot of things and certainly don't follow along with the books at all. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2014 21:57:45 GMT -5
I think I'm going to do what I was doing before, and stay clear of any debate concerning Bamon because feelings about this issue in regards to my fandom is running very high. I'm among one of the very few DE fans who actually like the Damon and Bonnie dynamic. Taking myself off now..... will stick to what I was doing before. I know this thread has kinda been all over the place in topics but wanted to address this quick. Bean you seem to misunderstand where most of us stand with Bamon. If you bring up Bamon in the context of romance, Damon loving Bonnie, them having feelings for each other, that's pretty much a no for me as the show has made no indication of any of that. You talk about Bamon in a friendship sense, I'm all for that. Just because we're arguing against you in Bamon romance, don't just assume we despise everything about Bamon and are being blind. I welcome a Bamon friendship as it would be a breath of fresh air to have someone else besides Elena finally stick up and support Damon instead look at her like she's crazy and go 'Ew'. |
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Post by Doppelgänger on Aug 17, 2014 22:14:59 GMT -5
I think I'm going to do what I was doing before, and stay clear of any debate concerning Bamon because feelings about this issue in regards to my fandom is running very high. I'm among one of the very few DE fans who actually like the Damon and Bonnie dynamic. Taking myself off now..... will stick to what I was doing before. I know this thread has kinda been all over the place in topics but wanted to address this quick. Bean you seem to misunderstand where most of us stand with Bamon. If you bring up Bamon in the context of romance, Damon loving Bonnie, them having feelings for each other, that's pretty much a no for me as the show has made no indication of any of that. You talk about Bamon in a friendship sense, I'm all for that. Just because we're arguing against you in Bamon romance, don't just assume we despise everything about Bamon and are being blind. I welcome a Bamon friendship as it would be a breath of fresh air to have someone else besides Elena finally stick up and support Damon instead look at her like she's crazy and go 'Ew'. Right I have no problem with a Bamon friendship. I don't however see any indication that there is anything between Bonnie and Damon that would constitute romantic feelings. We got off track with talk about the books where there is a whole different dynamic going on but that has nothing to do with what we have on the TV show. They are radically different. To say that because Bonnie had a crush on Damon in the book that means we're going to get a romantic Bamon in the show would be the same as saying Meredith is going to show back up and become Elena's best friend or Caroline is going to have Tyler's wolf puppies or Elena is going to sprout angel wings. The show is NOT the same as the books and there are different dynamics at play. There are currently no romantic feelings between Bonnie and Damon from either side and they both have significant others that they love. |
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