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Post by Doppelgänger on Dec 18, 2014 21:59:22 GMT -5
Airs 1/29/15 at 8pm Eastern time.
THE MERGE — When Liv (guest star Penelope Mitchell) and Luke’s (guest star Chris Brochu) father arrives to town to celebrate their birthday, they try and convince him to let Jo (guest star Jodi Lyn O’Keefe) and Kai (guest star Chris Wood) take their place in the merge ceremony. After Tyler (Michael Trevino) finds out that the merge is happening sooner than he expected, he urges Liv to let him talk to her father. Meanwhile, after Caroline’s (Candice Accola) plan to cure her mother takes an unexpected and devastating turn, Elena (Nina Dobrev), Stefan (Paul Wesley) and Damon (Ian Somerhalder) gather at the hospital, while Jo attempts to save Sheriff Forbes’ (guest star Marguerite MacIntyre) life. Lastly, with the merge set to take place, Damon’s risky plan quickly sends things spiraling out of control, forcing one of the twins to take matters into their own hands. Jeffrey Hunt directed the episode written by Brett Matthews & Rebecca Sonnenshine (#612). Original airdate 1/29/2015.
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Post by Doppelgänger on Jan 9, 2015 10:10:43 GMT -5
So Elena is not held by Kai for longer than one episode it looks like since she is at the hospital. I find it funny that they try to convince the Dad of something he definitely wants to prevent since he sent Kai to the prison world. Maybe he is the unexpected guest and he's met Damon before and they fought so that can't go well. I imagine Damon wants to kill him but since he's the head of the Gemini coven and powerful I don't think he stands a chance. Maybe the Dad can get Bonnie back since he made the darn place. I'm guessing that Damon might try to 'convince' him to do so and mess things up trying to get Bonnie back during all this.
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Post by Somerhaldered on Jan 30, 2015 8:53:26 GMT -5
I really enjoyed this episode! But it also showed me how many different storylines we have going on right now because so many characters were not in it. First things first - Colin, cancer guy. How the heck did he find Caroline? Did he walk all the way from Duke Medical? He like vamp sensed his way to Caroline’s house and he also knew her name? I don’t remember her saying her name and if she did, would she have said her last name? Anyways, the guy was in excruciating pain and wanted to die - why did no one think they should put the poor guy out of his misery after they figured out what was wrong? He’s got a terminal illness and can’t die? Uh, yeah he can, he’s not an Original. And thank you Damon for proving my point and just ending it. It was funny though (well, not funny haha, I’m not cruel) when he was trying to kill himself in the hospital, I was like ‘sure you can die, but that pole needs to be wood and you need to aim for the heart’, lol. Liv and Tyler - OK when did they get so serious? Up until now, they’ve had one real kiss, then we open their scene with them in bed. Yeah that’s believable. Usually, we get to see the first “love making” session, but I suppose no one is supposed to be that invested, we are just supposed to know they are serious. And let’s be real, sex between a witch and a human, probably not that interesting after all the vamp love we’ve seen. Sweet asked where Ric was, Elena said he was out getting some supernatural thing to give Jo an edge in the merge. Stefan and Elena’s convo - lol, Elena said what everyone was thinking. Uh maybe you should have waited a day. But she did rashly compel away her memories so he got her there. Liz - Tugged on the heartstrings! So when Kai sucked the magic out, where were the doctors when her machine started making noise? Aren’t the nurses and doctors supposed to come rushing when her machine starts crashing? And why did Damon have to compel a doctor to come save a dying patient’s life? Some of this stuff is so stupid. When she died I was like ‘no, no, no, Care didn’t get to say goodbye!’ That would have been too much for me. Also, when she saw Caroline in her dream all ripper style, I wonder if that was letting us know what her mental state would have been if she left Caroline at this point - thinking it was her fault and also not getting to say goodbye. Stefan’s mom - Knowing how his dad was, I bet his mom never died. Maybe his dad knew she was becoming a vampire or something else supernatural and because he loved her, he couldn’t kill her like the others so he sent her away instead. Or they will introduce someone that knew her (or of her) and she can tell us the real story of what happened her final days, maybe that’s where Lily Fell comes in? Twin merge - Luke got dressed for the occasion, haha. I knew what Luke was up to the second he left Liv, but II thought he was capable of winning the merge - which now that I think about it, if he did win, Luke would have more evil traits, but oh well. Their dad said the stronger twin will get traits of the other, so I’m thinking since they showed us the selfless side of Luke, maybe Kai will get a little softer. I’m not sure I want him to be redeemable though. How does everyone always know where people are going to be? Luke just shows up at the spot where they were merging? Follow the swirling winds I guess, lol. Ugh, my head hurts - too much over-analyzing. I’m in the school of thought with everyone else, Luke was much more like able this episode, but when he died I was like, well that’s that! I wonder how long they are going to be mad at Damon for letting Kai out. Will the fact that Luke merged with him to save the girls overshadow the fact that Damon’s plan helped save Liz’s life? I hope Ric doesn’t come back next week all pissed off because Jo is upset about the outcome. DELENA!! I loved the opening scene - her on her way out and him coming in with food and asking her out. Loved the whole thing. Ooh, I especially enjoyed when he talked about the date and we learn they’ve done that before - must have been that epic ‘Summer of Love’. Such good visuals of them as a couple. The final kiss, so good - although I feel like the chemistry feels are lower, maybe that’s just me, but I loved the scene regardless. I’m assuming she doesn’t get her memories back yet though, probably because we wanted and epic memory jolting kiss so they won’t give it to us, lol.
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Post by chrizakathemole on Apr 27, 2015 16:51:47 GMT -5
this episode .... poor Caroline when Caroline is sad i feel sad. Damn her loveable adorable face. I dont want to feel! Please Caroline dont make me feel! and her mother my god. So sad. Now one thing i'm confused about. Elena erased her memories 1)they were of ever loving Damon. Her feelings for stefan changed because of her feelings for Damon. So should she not be acting like she loves stefan. I get that Stefan's moved on and I dont want Stelena but he hasnt had his memories erased 2) the whole time till now she only remembered Damon as a monster but season 1 + 2 they were at least friends. She should have known he's better as she would remember her friend 3) Elena kissed Damon! Since her memories were erased of loving Damon when she kisses him out of love would that not break the compulsion? like when Stefan used his love to resist Klaus compulsion logically her love for Damon was so strong it happened again so ..... is it broke? I'm confused on this as part of me says it's broke but part of me says no it isnt because ..... angst? Another good episode I feel. Emotional and enjoyable and furthered everything well even if things when fast from last week ..... maybe comics will explain missing gaps
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Post by Doppelgänger on Apr 27, 2015 18:25:16 GMT -5
this episode .... poor Caroline when Caroline is sad i feel sad. Damn her loveable adorable face. I dont want to feel! Please Caroline dont make me feel! and her mother my god. So sad. Now one thing i'm confused about. Elena erased her memories 1)they were of ever loving Damon. Her feelings for stefan changed because of her feelings for Damon. So should she not be acting like she loves stefan. I get that Stefan's moved on and I dont want Stelena but he hasnt had his memories erased 2) the whole time till now she only remembered Damon as a monster but season 1 + 2 they were at least friends. She should have known he's better as she would remember her friend 3) Elena kissed Damon! Since her memories were erased of loving Damon when she kisses him out of love would that not break the compulsion? like when Stefan used his love to resist Klaus compulsion logically her love for Damon was so strong it happened again so ..... is it broke? I'm confused on this as part of me says it's broke but part of me says no it isnt because ..... angst? Another good episode I feel. Emotional and enjoyable and furthered everything well even if things when fast from last week ..... maybe comics will explain missing gaps Her feelings for Stefan changed not as a result of Damon but as a result of falling out of love with him. That hasn't changed just because she doesn't remember loving Damon. Obviously that's what the writers wanted to make crystal clear to the people who like to claim Damon 'stole' Elena or manipulated her feelings for Stefan or otherwise. She doesn't love Stefan anymore and that is independent of her love for Damon and not remembering it.
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Post by chrizakathemole on Apr 27, 2015 18:56:00 GMT -5
this episode .... poor Caroline when Caroline is sad i feel sad. Damn her loveable adorable face. I dont want to feel! Please Caroline dont make me feel! and her mother my god. So sad. Now one thing i'm confused about. Elena erased her memories 1)they were of ever loving Damon. Her feelings for stefan changed because of her feelings for Damon. So should she not be acting like she loves stefan. I get that Stefan's moved on and I dont want Stelena but he hasnt had his memories erased 2) the whole time till now she only remembered Damon as a monster but season 1 + 2 they were at least friends. She should have known he's better as she would remember her friend 3) Elena kissed Damon! Since her memories were erased of loving Damon when she kisses him out of love would that not break the compulsion? like when Stefan used his love to resist Klaus compulsion logically her love for Damon was so strong it happened again so ..... is it broke? I'm confused on this as part of me says it's broke but part of me says no it isnt because ..... angst? Another good episode I feel. Emotional and enjoyable and furthered everything well even if things when fast from last week ..... maybe comics will explain missing gaps Her feelings for Stefan changed not as a result of Damon but as a result of falling out of love with him. That hasn't changed just because she doesn't remember loving Damon. Obviously that's what the writers wanted to make crystal clear to the people who like to claim Damon 'stole' Elena or manipulated her feelings for Stefan or otherwise. She doesn't love Stefan anymore and that is independent of her love for Damon and not remembering it. But literally right before becoming a vampire she flat out says "I love him Damon" when damon asked who got the goodbye. Then from that to loving damon. I'm NOT saying the "Stolen" thing BUT she loved them both at the same time and she stopped loving Stefan after he got pissed she loved Damon. Logicly she should have some feelings. It was in the show so i thought she might have some. Not epic love or oh stelena over Delena just the fact in show her feelings shifted without the other feelings i want to know why she doesnt love other? I'm just curious what history she has now. But i was also more curioous about the other point of is it broke as love breaks compulsion if strong.
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Post by Doppelgänger on Apr 27, 2015 19:35:22 GMT -5
Her feelings for Stefan changed not as a result of Damon but as a result of falling out of love with him. That hasn't changed just because she doesn't remember loving Damon. Obviously that's what the writers wanted to make crystal clear to the people who like to claim Damon 'stole' Elena or manipulated her feelings for Stefan or otherwise. She doesn't love Stefan anymore and that is independent of her love for Damon and not remembering it. But literally right before becoming a vampire she flat out says "I love him Damon" when damon asked who got the goodbye. Then from that to loving damon. I'm NOT saying the "Stolen" thing BUT she loved them both at the same time and she stopped loving Stefan after he got pissed she loved Damon. Logicly she should have some feelings. It was in the show so i thought she might have some. Not epic love or oh stelena over Delena just the fact in show her feelings shifted without the other feelings i want to know why she doesnt love other? I'm just curious what history she has now. But i was also more curioous about the other point of is it broke as love breaks compulsion if strong. There's a difference between loving him and being IN LOVE with him. She also said to Damon that she couldn't think about always, only right now and she was crying. That was a big clue that she was doing it out of obligation to Stefan. We know now that she was IN LOVE with Damon by that time. She still loves Stefan. She just isn't IN LOVE with Stefan. He was good to her (most of the time) and she will always love him for that. He was there during a time in her life when she needed him (her words and also the reason for feeling obligated to choose him).
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Post by chrizakathemole on Apr 27, 2015 19:37:51 GMT -5
Fair enough But did the kiss erase the mind wipe
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Post by Doppelgänger on Apr 27, 2015 19:39:42 GMT -5
Fair enough But did the kiss erase the mind wipe I'm not sure what you mean.
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Post by chrizakathemole on Apr 27, 2015 19:57:55 GMT -5
Fair enough But did the kiss erase the mind wipe I'm not sure what you mean. Oh i mean Elena was compelled to forget she loved Damon, This episode with "we already when on this date didnt we" i thought because she's loving him her memories may slowly be sort of coming back then she gave in and kissed him so I thought maybe their love can beat the compulsion in a similar way to Stefan beating Klaus's as "love for this one girl" and this is love and true love so does it erase the compulsion or help her beat it?
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Post by Doppelgänger on Apr 27, 2015 21:00:35 GMT -5
I'm not sure what you mean. Oh i mean Elena was compelled to forget she loved Damon, This episode with "we already when on this date didnt we" i thought because she's loving him her memories may slowly be sort of coming back then she gave in and kissed him so I thought maybe their love can beat the compulsion in a similar way to Stefan beating Klaus's as "love for this one girl" and this is love and true love so does it erase the compulsion or help her beat it? You'll just have to keep watching I guess...but no, that little bit of memory was only because she crossed over the city line and got some flashes of memory. She doesn't fully remember it.
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Post by chrizakathemole on Apr 27, 2015 21:13:27 GMT -5
Ah fair enough thank you I thought maybe if it erased love and then love happens on its own it cancels it out , I had dumb logic lol
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Post by missmystic on Apr 28, 2015 8:38:56 GMT -5
Ah fair enough thank you I thought maybe if it erased love and then love happens on its own it cancels it out , I had dumb logic lol Not dumb logic, I think we were all hoping that would happen. Plus I think it makes a great story. But JP and CD don't seem to like great stories
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Post by chrizakathemole on Apr 28, 2015 13:44:32 GMT -5
Ah fair enough thank you I thought maybe if it erased love and then love happens on its own it cancels it out , I had dumb logic lol Not dumb logic, I think we were all hoping that would happen. Plus I think it makes a great story. But JP and CD don't seem to like great stories Yay! i was not the only one!
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Post by Somerhaldered on Apr 30, 2015 20:09:28 GMT -5
Not dumb logic, I think we were all hoping that would happen. Plus I think it makes a great story. But JP and CD don't seem to like great stories Yay! i was not the only one! Yeah they seem to just want to drag things out. But also, he erased her memories of Damon, but she didn't go back in time. Think of all the time that has passed from the time she chose Damon to the time he died. Even if she was still in love with Stefan way back when to the bad memories of Damon, her feelings have evolved and she has moved on. I don't think altering her memories for Damon has an effect on her feelings for Stefan.
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