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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2017 1:09:58 GMT -5
LOL Bamon fans wanting Bonnie to jump ship to TO and be with Klaus now. It was never about Damon but about Bonnie getting the lead of the show to bow at her feet. Just saying...it just made me laugh to read that tonight. The rats are looking for a life raft. Though that is a step up, I'd figure they'd just go with Elena and Damon getting a divorce and him hooking up with Bonnie after she finds an exorcist to get rid of Enzo lol.
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Post by Doppelgänger on Mar 11, 2017 1:12:06 GMT -5
And this is true. JP had very little to do with DEs success. It was all the books and the chemistry between the actors which sadly died when their relationship ended but she kept milking it even knowing it was over which is why we got the BD crap. She was hoping we'd go for it so she wouldn't have to revive DE again. I get it now...
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Post by Doppelgänger on Mar 11, 2017 1:13:54 GMT -5
LOL Bamon fans wanting Bonnie to jump ship to TO and be with Klaus now. It was never about Damon but about Bonnie getting the lead of the show to bow at her feet. Just saying...it just made me laugh to read that tonight. The rats are looking for a life raft. Though that is a step up, I'd figure they'd just go with Elena and Damon getting a divorce and him hooking up with Bonnie after she finds an exorcist to get rid of Enzo lol. LOL...best alternate 'crack' ending yet
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Post by ritz on Mar 11, 2017 1:33:06 GMT -5
I'm disappointed in the lack of delena scenes with no speeches or any real emotion between them. I expected that from Ian and Nina. I also expected it with JP. So I did not set my expectations high at all but in fact I thought they may even kill Damon off in the end so I'm happy they didn't take that route. The two things that bothered me the most was first - after all the emphasis of Damon and Elena becoming human so they could have children only to have become human and never even give us a flash second of them with their kids upset me. But then they showed them in the afterlife and i think they wanted to emphasize their relationship... just the two of them and we just supposed to know that they did have kids as they planned. Elena did state that she and Damon lived a long and happy life together and did grow old together. I felt like Damon may have died first and was waiting for Elena, by the look she gave him after the crow in the cemetery appeared. I don't think they wanted to show their children because of what little time they had to even give Damon and Elena. The second thing was when Damon disappeared from Elena at the Gilbert house. As I thought about it, I felt he just wanted to give Elena some private time to reunite with her lost love ones, just as he needed that time alone with Stefan. I think that if any of us put ourselves in their position we'd want that time alone with our loved ones too. It in no way took away what Damon and Elena have. After all it's just a short absence from one another when they now have all of eternity together. so we need to be happy that not only were they endgame, but they are spending eternity together. They are twin souls after all. And Julie Plec did say something to the effect as "Who knows, maybe they'll all get together for a BBQ later." Good point. I didn't put that together until just now. Damon died first. He then waited for Elena, and they went together hand and hand into the afterlife finding peace. Eternal love.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2017 2:02:24 GMT -5
I'm disappointed in the lack of delena scenes with no speeches or any real emotion between them. I expected that from Ian and Nina. I also expected it with JP. So I did not set my expectations high at all but in fact I thought they may even kill Damon off in the end so I'm happy they didn't take that route. The two things that bothered me the most was first - after all the emphasis of Damon and Elena becoming human so they could have children only to have become human and never even give us a flash second of them with their kids upset me. But then they showed them in the afterlife and i think they wanted to emphasize their relationship... just the two of them and we just supposed to know that they did have kids as they planned. Elena did state that she and Damon lived a long and happy life together and did grow old together. I felt like Damon may have died first and was waiting for Elena, by the look she gave him after the crow in the cemetery appeared. I don't think they wanted to show their children because of what little time they had to even give Damon and Elena. The second thing was when Damon disappeared from Elena at the Gilbert house. As I thought about it, I felt he just wanted to give Elena some private time to reunite with her lost love ones, just as he needed that time alone with Stefan. I think that if any of us put ourselves in their position we'd want that time alone with our loved ones too. It in no way took away what Damon and Elena have. After all it's just a short absence from one another when they now have all of eternity together. so we need to be happy that not only were they endgame, but they are spending eternity together. They are twin souls after all. And Julie Plec did say something to the effect as "Who knows, maybe they'll all get together for a BBQ later." Good point. I didn't put that together until just now. Damon died first. He then waited for Elena, and they went together hand and hand into the afterlife finding peace. Eternal love. I didn't think of it that way. Though it does lead to us having to do a lot of speculation ourselves. I'm not sure if Elena was really supposed to be dead in that scene since she's writing and talking about recent events with Stefan's sacrifice. It's just that the way the DE scenes was cut makes it skip and transition awkwardly. The hand holding seemed to represent them being together and going to live their lives, and then the scene where they're walking down the street and in different clothes gives the impression they've been together, got married and all and lived a full life, and JP wanted to have her cake and eat it too and once again did a jarring scene change to show them getting peace. Like mentioned I didn't even know DE were married at that point, I don't know if the ring got a close up or anything, maybe I missed it. As Doppel mentioned, Damon just disappearing off out of thin air as he's holding Elena's hands just gave a bad impression. Especially since it seems like Damon poofed somewhere else without Elena in tow. Wouldn't Elena want to show her family Damon or likewise with Stefan? He stated he wanted to see Damon and Elena have that fulfilling human life and gave a DE fan speech to Elena before he left. So he could have seen them and smiled, knowing they lived a good life. Though I would have gladly not have this afterlife scene if it came at the expense of cutting DE in real time. It feels like it's only a thing solely for the last scene to be a Defan one.
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Post by delena4ever on Mar 11, 2017 2:24:32 GMT -5
When Elena is writing in the cemetery, she said she grew old, so she is dead here. Damon was waiting for her. Since they seem to be able to do anything they want when they're dead, why not write in your diary too? They now have all of eternity to spend together alone and with family. Any children they maybe had, I assume are still living and will join them later.
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Post by ritz on Mar 11, 2017 2:51:36 GMT -5
I'm thinking Nikki was involved in the final edit. That's why the DE proposal ended up on the cutting room floor.
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Post by b1beloty on Mar 11, 2017 7:34:07 GMT -5
well, I am not THAT disapointed, because I didnt expect anthing better from these people.
Ian is is most pitiful actor I know. TBH I hope he will have huge problem with finding another job and if I was a film director, I would think then times before offering him a role, after what he's done with DE scenes in finale. I doesn't say anything good about him as an actor.
the biggest problem I have is last scene and the fact that people can interprete it as DE spending their afterlife not together. It shouldn't be left to interpretation. It's absolutly obvious that they would stay together (well, maybe Ian couldn't stand filming few more seconds in the same room as Nina - what a man!)
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Post by Doppelgänger on Mar 11, 2017 7:51:24 GMT -5
well, I am not THAT disapointed, because I didnt expect anthing better from these people. Ian is is most pitiful actor I know. TBH I hope he will have huge problem with finding another job and if I was a film director, I would think then times before offering him a role, after what he's done with DE scenes in finale. I doesn't say anything good about him as an actor. the biggest problem I have is last scene and the fact that people can interprete it as DE spending their afterlife not together. It shouldn't be left to interpretation. It's absolutly obvious that they would stay together (well, maybe Ian couldn't stand filming few more seconds in the same room as Nina - what a man!) Exactly the problem! It makes it seem like they didn't spend their eternity together but went their separate ways when they died.
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Post by Doppelgänger on Mar 11, 2017 7:55:28 GMT -5
Great so now they're telling us the rest of the story? Why not actually have shown it to us?
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Post by Doppelgänger on Mar 11, 2017 8:17:43 GMT -5
So someone's interpretation of where Damon disappears and she goes to her family is that Elena dies first and that's why the smiles are so weak because they are letting each other go for a while until the afterlife happens. I guess I could go with that interpretation since they show her with her family first.
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Post by Doppelgänger on Mar 11, 2017 8:23:47 GMT -5
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Post by Doppelgänger on Mar 11, 2017 8:26:35 GMT -5
I kind of feel bad for Caroline since she's going to live forever, the lone vampire...all her friends will be long gone.
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Post by Doppelgänger on Mar 11, 2017 8:27:40 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2017 8:50:59 GMT -5
Great so now they're telling us the rest of the story? Why not actually have shown it to us? Ugh, this just goes back to the proposal that was cut. Showing these scenes, even in a montage would have been the difference between satisfying and lackluster. I mean it's almost as if they knew to expect people to not feel that satisfied with the scraps as there was an instant interview waiting for us as soon as the show ended. The DE endgame sounds like a great one (even JP's joke about Damon and Elena doing a barbecue in an hour would have been nice) we just didn't get to see it. Having a final scene after Damon/Elena visit their family and seeing them run off playfully as Damon grabs her in a hug from behind as a bright light faded would have been so nice. Their priorities were dumb.
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