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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2014 11:27:10 GMT -5
This might sound cheesy but when Caroline was on the ground with Stefan and crying out and there was no one around them, it gave me that Lion King vibe with Simba and his father.
You know if I had the clips and the song that plays during that moment when Simba sees his father dead, I would totally put that together lol
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Post by Doppelgänger on May 9, 2014 11:42:33 GMT -5
This might sound cheesy but when Caroline was on the ground with Stefan and crying out and there was no one around them, it gave me that Lion King vibe with Simba and his father. You know if I had the clips and the song that plays during that moment when Simba sees his father dead, I would totally put that together lol
This just made me...
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Post by aoshi on May 28, 2014 8:49:53 GMT -5
This might sound cheesy but when Caroline was on the ground with Stefan and crying out and there was no one around them, it gave me that Lion King vibe with Simba and his father. You know if I had the clips and the song that plays during that moment when Simba sees his father dead, I would totally put that together lol Really?  Is it because you ship DE or is an honest appraisal of that scene? I am guessing its the former. You are trying desperately to grasp at straws on making anything and everything related to stefan as pejorative as possible. Stefan's death was most tragic deaths compared to any TVD death to me. And no, I don't say this because i am an SEr or Caroline fan. Its cuz it indeed was unpredicted and well crafted. The BGM of reign - don't let me go couldn't have been more perfect for the scene.Your comments are juvenile and silly coming from an avid TVD follower. |
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Post by Doppelgänger on May 28, 2014 9:46:38 GMT -5
This might sound cheesy but when Caroline was on the ground with Stefan and crying out and there was no one around them, it gave me that Lion King vibe with Simba and his father. You know if I had the clips and the song that plays during that moment when Simba sees his father dead, I would totally put that together lol Really? Is it because you ship DE or is an honest appraisal of that scene? I am guessing its the former. You are trying desperately to grasp at straws on making anything and everything related to stefan as pejorative as possible. Stefan's death was most tragic deaths compared to any TVD death to me. And no, I don't say this because i am an SEr or Caroline fan. Its cuz it indeed was unpredicted and well crafted. The BGM of reign - don't let me go couldn't have been more perfect for the scene.Your comments are juvenile and silly coming from an avid TVD follower. Please don't personally attack the members here. It's against the rules. I read it as her finding some humor in a very dramatic moment. I don't think she meant it in any sort of unkind way. While Stefan's death was the most tragic to you, not everyone is going to see it that way, and that is OK. There is no need to attack a member for saying something you don't agree with or like. Just disagree with the argument and leave it at that. |
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2014 13:15:46 GMT -5
This might sound cheesy but when Caroline was on the ground with Stefan and crying out and there was no one around them, it gave me that Lion King vibe with Simba and his father. You know if I had the clips and the song that plays during that moment when Simba sees his father dead, I would totally put that together lol Really? Is it because you ship DE or is an honest appraisal of that scene? I am guessing its the former. You are trying desperately to grasp at straws on making anything and everything related to stefan as pejorative as possible. Stefan's death was most tragic deaths compared to any TVD death to me. And no, I don't say this because i am an SEr or Caroline fan. Its cuz it indeed was unpredicted and well crafted. The BGM of reign - don't let me go couldn't have been more perfect for the scene.Your comments are juvenile and silly coming from an avid TVD follower. I'm sorry but this honestly made me laugh. I'm not sure how you made that comparison out to be negative or why you suddenly went all beserk on me but you might want to chill out. We're in a shipping thread you know lol |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2014 19:13:11 GMT -5
Lexi trying to get through a thick headed Stefan that the reason he still stuck around after getting out of the box was because of Caroline lol. And in comparison Caroline pleading to Stefan if a part of him came back from his fake life to check up on her.
 
 
 
 
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2014 19:17:54 GMT -5
It's a bit harder to write analysis and speculations for Steroline since Stefan's character is kinda unpredictable as far as the writing goes and Steroline is also second place to Delena for the romance so there may be episodes where nothing happens in regards to Steroline.
Like for instance take the Caroline calling Stefan scene, Stefan takes a look at the caller ID and then just crushes the phone. And recently Caroline's plea to him about staying, he listens but then just walks off.
It just feels like a stalemate. Steroline is getting built up with scenes like this, but at the same time, it's like nothing is happening. I can't even tell if the audience is supposed to know whether Stefan likes Caroline romantically, we get scenes where he cares and gives Caroline these encouraging words and then we get scenes like the above where he can easily walk off like it's nothing. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2014 19:30:09 GMT -5
mauysworld from tumblr:
I don’t get why people say “I don’t get why people ship Steroline” or “DON’T RUIN THEIR FRIENDSHIP!” No, actually I do. Most of the times it’s because they ship one of the two or both with someone else. But…
1. Saying “I don’t get why people ship Steroline” is just wrong. Example: I ship Delena as well, but I never said “I don’t get why people ship Stelena” because I do get it, Stefan and Elena had sense when it was their time. So if I can see that with a ship that isn’t mine, others should be able to do the same with Steroline.
2. “Don’t ruin their friendship” What? The best and strongest couples started out as friends, and I’m talking about real life here, not just movies. Ever heard of the phrase “I fell in love with my best friend”? The best thing that could ever happen to someone is to fall in love with that person that knows you best, that’s been there through your ups and downs, the one that you can open yourself up to completely, that’s even seen you without makeup. I don’t blame people for wanting them to be just friends, you choose your ships, but saying “don’t ruin” makes no sense. Sure, life is unpredictable so two people can break up and things could be awkward (or maybe they wouldn’t), but if we all think so negatively, we wouldn’t even begin relationships and babies would never be born ever again.
So yes, I ship Steroline and it makes sense and it is beautiful.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2014 19:35:22 GMT -5
Most people who say don't ruin their friendship in regards to Steroline are either people who ship them with someone else or are just anti Steroline. If the whole 'Why can't a guy and girl just be friends and not fall in love!' was such a big deal to people, then why aren't these same people not so up in arms about Bamon getting together romantically. 'Why can't Bonnie and Damon just be friends! Don't ruin their friendship!' said no one ever cause it keeps one party away from a ship they hate lol. And then there's Stelena, people want them back together romantically as well but can't they just be friends?
Why do people think happens when friends fall in love anyways? Why do they suddenly think said friendship is going to get destroyed upon romance? No the relationship has an ever stronger bond because it was built on trust and friendship lol.
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Post by missmystic on Oct 22, 2014 9:27:31 GMT -5
It's a bit harder to write analysis and speculations for Steroline since Stefan's character is kinda unpredictable as far as the writing goes and Steroline is also second place to Delena for the romance so there may be episodes where nothing happens in regards to Steroline.
Like for instance take the Caroline calling Stefan scene, Stefan takes a look at the caller ID and then just crushes the phone. And recently Caroline's plea to him about staying, he listens but then just walks off.
It just feels like a stalemate. Steroline is getting built up with scenes like this, but at the same time, it's like nothing is happening. I can't even tell if the audience is supposed to know whether Stefan likes Caroline romantically, we get scenes where he cares and gives Caroline these encouraging words and then we get scenes like the above where he can easily walk off like it's nothing. I agree, I'm having a hard time following the threads in the story for this romance. At the end of last season, Caroline's little explosion of jealousy when she thought Stelena was getting back together was a very clear thread to follow. And then Lexi trying to point out to an oblivious Stefan that a romance was blooming was another clear thread. But so far this season Stefan has been a complete D**K, and treating Caroline like crap. It's making it really difficult to get excited about this romance. I honestly don't quite understand what the writers are doing here. I get it if Stefan isn't ready for a real relationship again right now, but then they should have made him more sympathetic by showing his real grief in losing his brother, and see that he was having a hard time. Instead we get him giving up and not caring about anyone but himself. I want to want them to get together, but the way he's acting right now ... I wouldn't wish him on anyone, especially not Caroline. She deserves better. Even Enzo in his murdering ways is acting more deserving of Caroline than Stefan is. So I just don't understand what their intensions are for this storyline right now. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2014 11:44:11 GMT -5
It's a bit harder to write analysis and speculations for Steroline since Stefan's character is kinda unpredictable as far as the writing goes and Steroline is also second place to Delena for the romance so there may be episodes where nothing happens in regards to Steroline.
Like for instance take the Caroline calling Stefan scene, Stefan takes a look at the caller ID and then just crushes the phone. And recently Caroline's plea to him about staying, he listens but then just walks off.
It just feels like a stalemate. Steroline is getting built up with scenes like this, but at the same time, it's like nothing is happening. I can't even tell if the audience is supposed to know whether Stefan likes Caroline romantically, we get scenes where he cares and gives Caroline these encouraging words and then we get scenes like the above where he can easily walk off like it's nothing. I agree, I'm having a hard time following the threads in the story for this romance. At the end of last season, Caroline's little explosion of jealousy when she thought Stelena was getting back together was a very clear thread to follow. And then Lexi trying to point out to an oblivious Stefan that a romance was blooming was another clear thread. But so far this season Stefan has been a complete D**K, and treating Caroline like crap. It's making it really difficult to get excited about this romance. I honestly don't quite understand what the writers are doing here. I get it if Stefan isn't ready for a real relationship again right now, but then they should have made him more sympathetic by showing his real grief in losing his brother, and see that he was having a hard time. Instead we get him giving up and not caring about anyone but himself. I want to want them to get together, but the way he's acting right now ... I wouldn't wish him on anyone, especially not Caroline. She deserves better. Even Enzo in his murdering ways is acting more deserving of Caroline than Stefan is. So I just don't understand what their intensions are for this storyline right now. Yes I agree. It seems that the writers are trying to show that Stefan isn't ready to get attached back to the strings of his old life and he definitely is not in the right mind to dive right into a relationship. Though the writers need to make it more clear and have Stefan actually voice these thoughts concerns instead of flat out ignoring everyone. Is this Ivy really so much more important than Caroline and everyone else? Steroline is really feeling very one sided right now, though at the same time I can't completely hate where the direction is now. Finally Steroline isn't all rainbows and sunshines with cheerleader Caroline glossing over all of Stefans flaws. She's finally seeing another side to Stefan a somewhat 'darker' side that she isn't used to. Though I don't think this makes Stefan outright bad for Caroline. He's not out to get her or anything and intentionally trying to hurt her, he's just not really considering her feelings and likely did not know the severe effect his disappearance would have had on her. He may also be oblivious to her changing feelings as well. Though I agree that Steroline is a bit weak as far as emotional moments go being so incredibly one sided. When Damon left Elena and came back to a completely devastated Elena wondering where he was, we got a sincere, mutual moment between the two, Damon promising to never leave her again. Caroline gives Stefan an emotional plea as well but Stefan doesn't even respond to it, he just walks off. It's really aggravating and makes Steroline come off one sided and poorly written. Stefan has been open to Caroline in the past season and this felt completely OOC for Steroline. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2014 10:27:25 GMT -5
Interesting perspective from itwasalwaysdamon from tumblr.
anonymous said:
Do you have any thoughts on Steroline even as a non-shipper? I've read your past posts about them and you have a really good and objective pov. I do ship them mostly because of Caroline but that scene in 6x03 made me want to punch Stefan in his big stupid face.
itwasalwaysdamon Yeah, we all did. Because nobody should treat Caroline that way. She can drive us crazy and be annoying and judgemental and controlling but, for me, those are the things that make her character relateable.
And that’s just it. I don’t always like Caroline, but I do always relate to her and I always understand her in the same ways I relate to and understand Damon. She’s just incredibly human in her vulnerability and resilience and her hopefullness.
So, here’s the thing. That final scene with Stefan just solidified the inevitability of their relationship for me. Not that I needed any more proof. This late in the game, you don’t have a character like Caroline openly declare herself to Stefan only to be cold-heartedly rejected without that being foreshadowing for the exact opposite to happen sometime in the future.
Anyone who’s still pretending otherwise is in such a deep pit of denial that I just feel sorry for them. Seriously.
In 6x02, Caroline called Stefan out on his treatment of her and demanded better of him, which was a thing of beauty. Something that made this ship actually shippable, for those who are interested in it. In 6x03, she confronted him again but from the other side of the coin. She did it with more compassion and empathy for his situation. She offered her understanding and her friendship. She offered herself and asked him without really asking if he felt the same way. He pulled a Stefan and ‘lied” about it.
The very fact that he rejected her is the biggest sign of how much he doesn’t want to reject her.
Just like going to bars and letting people beat him up, just like restoring Damon’s beloved Camaro even though it must break his heart every time he looks at it, he’s punishing himself by denying himself Caroline’s company. If he lets himself be with her, he might accidentally forget and let himself smile. Might let himself forget about his guilt for just a moment. He might let himself be happy, for real, and start to move on. For real.
Very shortly, Stefan will need to step up, make ammends and do better by Caroline. And then? I say endgame.
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Post by missmystic on Oct 28, 2014 10:38:44 GMT -5
Interesting perspective from itwasalwaysdamon from tumblr.
anonymous said:
Do you have any thoughts on Steroline even as a non-shipper? I've read your past posts about them and you have a really good and objective pov. I do ship them mostly because of Caroline but that scene in 6x03 made me want to punch Stefan in his big stupid face.
itwasalwaysdamon Yeah, we all did. Because nobody should treat Caroline that way. She can drive us crazy and be annoying and judgemental and controlling but, for me, those are the things that make her character relateable.
And that’s just it. I don’t always like Caroline, but I do always relate to her and I always understand her in the same ways I relate to and understand Damon. She’s just incredibly human in her vulnerability and resilience and her hopefullness.
So, here’s the thing. That final scene with Stefan just solidified the inevitability of their relationship for me. Not that I needed any more proof. This late in the game, you don’t have a character like Caroline openly declare herself to Stefan only to be cold-heartedly rejected without that being foreshadowing for the exact opposite to happen sometime in the future.
Anyone who’s still pretending otherwise is in such a deep pit of denial that I just feel sorry for them. Seriously.
In 6x02, Caroline called Stefan out on his treatment of her and demanded better of him, which was a thing of beauty. Something that made this ship actually shippable, for those who are interested in it. In 6x03, she confronted him again but from the other side of the coin. She did it with more compassion and empathy for his situation. She offered her understanding and her friendship. She offered herself and asked him without really asking if he felt the same way. He pulled a Stefan and ‘lied” about it.
The very fact that he rejected her is the biggest sign of how much he doesn’t want to reject her.
Just like going to bars and letting people beat him up, just like restoring Damon’s beloved Camaro even though it must break his heart every time he looks at it, he’s punishing himself by denying himself Caroline’s company. If he lets himself be with her, he might accidentally forget and let himself smile. Might let himself forget about his guilt for just a moment. He might let himself be happy, for real, and start to move on. For real.
Very shortly, Stefan will need to step up, make ammends and do better by Caroline. And then? I say endgame.
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Post by Doppelgänger on Oct 28, 2014 11:29:22 GMT -5
Hmmm...that is an interesting perspective. I am not on the Steroline bandwagon just yet but it is interesting to watch them circling around each other lately. I'm hoping it will become more interesting to me because I think we really do need that in this show and especially for Stefan who is now the odd man out.
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Post by missmystic on Nov 13, 2014 10:07:25 GMT -5
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Is it because you ship DE or is an honest appraisal of that scene? I am guessing its the former. You are trying desperately to grasp at straws on making anything and everything related to stefan as pejorative as possible.
