The Originals General Discussion

[missmystic]

Jan 27, 2015 8:58:24 GMT -5 @anbuprincess said:

This has nothing to do with the actual episode of the Originals perse but it's funny how I had a dream about TO last night (fitting since that was the last thing I watched before heading to bed haha).

I just remember Hayley's baby being put in a car seat and then me getting in the car beside the baby and Klaus in the driver seat with Hayley coming up to the passenger seat all, 'What are we going to do about the werewolves?'

'Well we're going to kill them of course!' Klaus says and Hayley responds with this shrug and look of disapproval, 'We can't just kill them.'

What's weird is like I had a laptop and I guess I was browsing forums or something lol and then I responded, 'Looks like some people were already thinking about killing them.'

Then Klaus smiles and was like, 'See, someone else was already planning to do it and I'm assuming they're idiots and incapable.'

'And assuming the werewolves will come after us anyways once they're done with those guys,' I state and then Klaus just sort of points at me with a smile.

Then Hayley just sighs and gets in the car. Then the next scene sort of 'skips'. I'd say it'd did the whole black out commercial thing and come back lol. Cause then the three of us were just on the road, walking to where the wolves would be and Klaus was throwing me and Hayley some bottles of mist or something which Klaus was saying would protect us from the werewolf bite lol.

I didn't get to the 'battle' part that though! I woke up! Though that was such a random dream haha. And seems like me and Klaus would get along apparently lol.

I just love the way your mind works! lol

How about the episode though? What did you guys think? I liked it, I thought Klaus made some big character growth steps here. The old Klaus would never have forgiven Elijah for what he did. At least not that quickly. Maybe after a couple hundred years of keeping him daggered in a box lol. It was really encouraging to see that from him now. Plus, for some reason I thought he was looking extra attractive in this episode :-)

It looks like there is badness ahead for Haley and her wolves though. Klaus isn't going to let her tell Jackson about the baby. So where will that leave them?

And who here is ready for Finn to be dead? That guys sucks lol

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Jan 28, 2015 10:59:36 GMT -5 missmystic said:

I just love the way your mind works! lol

How about the episode though? What did you guys think? I liked it, I thought Klaus made some big character growth steps here. The old Klaus would never have forgiven Elijah for what he did. At least not that quickly. Maybe after a couple hundred years of keeping him daggered in a box lol. It was really encouraging to see that from him now. Plus, for some reason I thought he was looking extra attractive in this episode :-)

It looks like there is badness ahead for Haley and her wolves though. Klaus isn't going to let her tell Jackson about the baby. So where will that leave them?

And who here is ready for Finn to be dead? That guys sucks lol

So, I thought it was a great episode and it looks like it is building up to some big things. As for Klaus, he has definitely shown a lot of growth from where we first met him. We actually see that he really cares about people now! When Marcel told him he was bitten, and he was like "I'll get you my blood no matter what it takes". I love that he forgave Elijah so quickly, but I also feel like it would be very hypocritical of him not too considering that he led all of them to believe that Mikael killed Esther when in actuality, he did. At some point, you just have to understand people keep the truth to themselves for a reason and it really shows some character growth on his part to not want to immediately dagger Elijah for it, lol. 

I am curious to see who will find out about Hope first and what will happen. Does Haley really think she'll be able to keep this secret to herself once she starts smoking the herbs? At first she was like - no way, I'm not doing it, then Jackson convinced her to take it slow, yada yada yada. But in reality, the whole ritual probably wouldn't work if their "truths" weren't completely cleansed, right? I'm thinking that Klaus won't make it there in time - they are deep in the bayou! How the heck is he going to find them? Unless he gets Divina to do a locator spell, but I'm sure he just ran out of there to go find them. 

As far as the wolves go, I'm thinking something is going to go wrong with this ritual - if they even make it that far. It's 10 days away! There's gonna be some loophole because she is really in love with Elijah or something that it won't work. It'll be like her heart has to be pure and devoted to Jackson or something. It just seems all too easy - we're gonna get married and as long as you witness the wedding you won't be cursed by the moon anymore. Yeah right, what's the catch?

Finn isn't done yet though, he's gonna keep at Klaus until he figures out his secret, so I wonder what he will do with that information. Because let's be real, he's gonna find out! Just a matter of which one of the group is going to tell. If he happens to find Cami at the safe house before she is compelled to forget, Finn could get it out of her too. To many people know about Hope!

Yeah, I'm tired of Finn, he is way too powerful for his own good. I thought he might be so devastated by Esther turning that he would opt to kill himself. Darn.

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Yeah I'm ready for Finn to give it a rest already!

Though I guess it is fun seeing them work through Finn's' spells lol. My favorite part had to be when Marcel and his hungry vamps walked through that parade with the flashbacks of the past inbetween. Very intense! I didn't get what Finn did to the vamps at ep's end though.

And as mentioned yeah something's going to go wrong at that ceremony, or dangerous truths come to light as that would just be way too easy and certainly not JP's style haha.

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That last scene with Cami and the baby certainly left something interesting to wonder about! When the car suddenly stopped working and it kept changing between Finn's speech with Elijah and back, I thought Finn had did something witchy to the car but turns out it was the baby! Protecting Cami and herself in time from being caught up in Elijah's big explosion to take down Finn and then the baby starts the car up again!

So already Hope has signs of her witch powers. That's certainly interesting. And she has to be incredibly self aware, advanced beyond the intellect of a mere baby to pull off that. I wonder if perhaps Hope can see the future or something or perhaps sense danger? How'd Hope know what was going to happen?

Perhaps Hope isn't just a helpless baby and has some of her mother and father's fight in her haha. Can't wait for Cami to reunite with everyone and tell them of what happened. I wonder what's next for Hope. If at that age she can already pull off a stunt like fully stopping a car to the point it seems dead, then going into toddler, teen, adult years she's certainly going to be perhaps the strongest witch ever lol

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Feb 12, 2015 10:10:12 GMT -5 @anbuprincess said:

That last scene with Cami and the baby certainly left something interesting to wonder about! When the car suddenly stopped working and it kept changing between Finn's speech with Elijah and back, I thought Finn had did something witchy to the car but turns out it was the baby! Protecting Cami and herself in time from being caught up in Elijah's big explosion to take down Finn and then the baby starts the car up again!

So already Hope has signs of her witch powers. That's certainly interesting. And she has to be incredibly self aware, advanced beyond the intellect of a mere baby to pull off that. I wonder if perhaps Hope can see the future or something or perhaps sense danger? How'd Hope know what was going to happen?

Perhaps Hope isn't just a helpless baby and has some of her mother and father's fight in her haha. Can't wait for Cami to reunite with everyone and tell them of what happened. I wonder what's next for Hope. If at that age she can already pull off a stunt like fully stopping a car to the point it seems dead, then going into toddler, teen, adult years she's certainly going to be perhaps the strongest witch ever lol

I know! Not to mention she's definitely got some vampirism or wolf in her because her wound healed up quickly too - Cami thought Elijah fed her his blood, but I'm not sure that's the case. But, lore says you can't be a vampire and a witch so this could get interesting. And she is the cutest baby too!!

I find it funny that all of these people are rushing to try and protect baby Hope when she may very well be more powerful than all of them! How funny would it be if she could straight out protect herself from Dahlia. 

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Feb 12, 2015 19:28:50 GMT -5 Somerhaldered said:

Feb 12, 2015 10:10:12 GMT -5 @anbuprincess said:

That last scene with Cami and the baby certainly left something interesting to wonder about! When the car suddenly stopped working and it kept changing between Finn's speech with Elijah and back, I thought Finn had did something witchy to the car but turns out it was the baby! Protecting Cami and herself in time from being caught up in Elijah's big explosion to take down Finn and then the baby starts the car up again!

So already Hope has signs of her witch powers. That's certainly interesting. And she has to be incredibly self aware, advanced beyond the intellect of a mere baby to pull off that. I wonder if perhaps Hope can see the future or something or perhaps sense danger? How'd Hope know what was going to happen?

Perhaps Hope isn't just a helpless baby and has some of her mother and father's fight in her haha. Can't wait for Cami to reunite with everyone and tell them of what happened. I wonder what's next for Hope. If at that age she can already pull off a stunt like fully stopping a car to the point it seems dead, then going into toddler, teen, adult years she's certainly going to be perhaps the strongest witch ever lol

I know! Not to mention she's definitely got some vampirism or wolf in her because her wound healed up quickly too - Cami thought Elijah fed her his blood, but I'm not sure that's the case. But, lore says you can't be a vampire and a witch so this could get interesting. And she is the cutest baby too!!

I find it funny that all of these people are rushing to try and protect baby Hope when she may very well be more powerful than all of them! How funny would it be if she could straight out protect herself from Dahlia. 

Oh I never realized that about the blood! I assumed Elijah fed her blood as well but there may be a reason why that observation with the blood was brought up, to show us as you said the baby's supe genes kicking in.

They may go with part wolf/witch since you can't be vamp/witch and it'd be a bit odd to keep up a baby with needing blood/staying out the sunlight lol.

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As much as I miss Claire Holt as Rebekah, the new actress is doing a great job. Now that she's finally seen Marcel, they have great chemistry together. That said, what was up with Marcel drinking the witch doctor tea? "It's your house, you have to drink it" - I'm calling bs Marcel! I was a little confused about the end though, is that Rebekah as Eva doing that stuff or are they showing us Eva and what she used to do?

Jackson and Haley finally got it on. OK, moving on. Why? Cause I don't really ship Haley with anyone, even though she's got like 3 different shipdoms, lol. 

I thought it was strange that Elijah and Gia got it on, because he's always been so careful and slow developing with his relationships. He's only loved like 3 people in his 1000 years and he just gives in to Gia? I guess he's over being cautious - it just gets him nowhere. I just love Elijah - "I prefer the dark suit in the middle, thank you very much," lol.

I'm interested to see what Klaus has planned for Jackson. What's the point of Klaus trying to get rid of him? He needs someone a little more cooperating leading the wolves?

Oooh and Freya is super cool. I don't know whether to trust her or be scared of her. I think it's a little of both, haha. I can't figure out who's side she's on and what her end game is. I love the role though, I love seeing another sister thrown into the Original siblings.

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Mar 13, 2015 21:28:03 GMT -5 Somerhaldered said:

As much as I miss Claire Holt as Rebekah, the new actress is doing a great job. Now that she's finally seen Marcel, they have great chemistry together. That said, what was up with Marcel drinking the witch doctor tea? "It's your house, you have to drink it" - I'm calling bs Marcel! I was a little confused about the end though, is that Rebekah as Eva doing that stuff or are they showing us Eva and what she used to do?

Jackson and Haley finally got it on. OK, moving on. Why? Cause I don't really ship Haley with anyone, even though she's got like 3 different shipdoms, lol. 

I thought it was strange that Elijah and Gia got it on, because he's always been so careful and slow developing with his relationships. He's only loved like 3 people in his 1000 years and he just gives in to Gia? I guess he's over being cautious - it just gets him nowhere. I just love Elijah - "I prefer the dark suit in the middle, thank you very much," lol.

I'm interested to see what Klaus has planned for Jackson. What's the point of Klaus trying to get rid of him? He needs someone a little more cooperating leading the wolves?

Oooh and Freya is super cool. I don't know whether to trust her or be scared of her. I think it's a little of both, haha. I can't figure out who's side she's on and what her end game is. I love the role though, I love seeing another sister thrown into the Original siblings.

Yep same here, I miss seeing Claire Holt play Rebekah, but I do love that Rebekah's influence is still there. They kind of sound the same to me as well lol. As long as they write her the same way as they would if this were Claire Holt playing Rebekah, then it's all well and good.

I was a bit confused on the ending as well when Rebekah suddenly 'opened' her eyes in the middle of the night. Though it seems like the spirit/will of the previous owner is awakening at a certain time and carrying on and doing what that guy was trying to off her for. Though I'm still confused as to 'what it is' she's doing though. Just going after only young adults/teens and taking their energy/killing them?

On Elijah and Gia, Elijah actually gave me second hand embarrassment in that scene lol. I haven't liked Elijah as much as I used to, I feel like he's not being written to the same care and degree as he used to. I was honestly hoping that the writers wouldn't suddenly make a random romantic scene between those two just because they're spending time of the opposite gender. Camile had her time with Elijah and personal feelings/emotions got out but it didn't go any further. It was rather in character for Camile to wonder such things given her psychological background.

And it goes back to what you mentioned about Elijah and how he's been portrayed when it came to love. First starting with Tatia who we really didn't know much about until recently on this show. Then his love for Katherine. There were flashbacks dedicated to his complicated relationship with Katherine in TVD and his fondness for Elena, and then when Katherine got more screen time in season 5, the writers brought back the dynamic of Elijah and Katherine. Showing Kat even being a bit giddy and playful with Elijah (having him called E as a nickname on her caller ID) and it showed Katherine giving up her usual habit of fending for herself and crossing people who get in her way, to doing a selfless act by giving Elijah the cure. Then we had Elijah ready to move on and be with Katherine, he seeked out his brother and pleaded with him to give up his revenge for Katherine so that they could be in peace, which at the time Klaus was adamant.

But all that development went down the drain. Kat reverted back to a fan girl for Stefan (which wasn't a problem in and of itself it just makes you wonder why the writers even bothered with bringing back Kalijah, who were dating/together and content for a while just to make it all moot anyways). I feel like Katherine, instead of the fate she got on season 5 of TVD, which made us suffer through the most horrendous storyline of the body switch, could have easily been kept in a relationship with Elijah and moved over to TO. Not as a regular of course since that'd be too much on Nina, but have her guest star as Katherine and show up every once in a while.

Hayley and Elijah's relationship makes no sense to me. While I don't actively hate it as I do with some TVD ships, I'm more on the neutral side when I watch scenes, not caring how things go either way. But I don't get why Elijah fell for Hayley at all. You'd think this would be Klaus that the writers would go with given that he had a child with Hayley, but they kept their relationship realistic and in character.

It sometimes feels like Elijah just fell for Hayley just because she's the main female lead and they wanted some forbidden romantic relationship to play with amongst all the drama. Some fans have also pointed out that Hayley and Elijah's relationship takes some scenes from other couples, mainly Delena. I never noticed that before, of course the scene with Elijah tied up and hallucinating Hayley coming to rescue him was too obvious at that point that they were copying Delena. Though again it doesn't bother me since it's more of a compliment than anything if the writers borrow scenes from Delena since it's one of their, if not the best, written romantic relationships.

But enough about Elijah since that got pretty longer than I expected haha. Yeah I'm also confused as to why Klaus wants to get rid of Jackson. It's a bit hilarious. It's like when a character just hates another character and you don't get that explanation as to why but they're just apparently rivals lol. Jackson isn't doing anything to go against Klaus so it's not a matter of an annoyance/threat that needs to be rid of.

The only reason I can think of is more of Klaus' pride than anything. Jackson gets to spend time with the baby more than he does and naturally the baby will react/respond to Jackson more as the father than Klaus. And a part of Klaus might not want to admit that Jackson may be a better father/might be healthier/safer for the baby to be with Jackson/Hayley in this scenario than with Klaus himself who still wants control over certain factions and ultimately the city of New Orleans.

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The actor who plays Finn and now Vincent is so good! When he was Finn he moved and talked as if he were truly from the early centuries and now as Vincent he feels like a common person from the modern world! He truly feels like another person now haha.

I still don't get what happened though. I thought Freya just erased Finn's memories or something. Is Finn just truly gone now? It doesn't seem like he's having the problem of Rebekah with Finn waking up one minute and then him as Vincent as the next or something.

I'm with Klaus on his stance with Freya and I'm not sure why Elijah and Rebekah seemed so surprised with his decision. Freya certainly has to earn their trust first. The last time they just blindly trusted a sibling, it led to Rebekah getting in the current situation she's in now. Klaus didn't give Kol any slack when it came to eventually winning back his trust and I don't think Freya should get a pass all because their desperate to rid themselves of this Eva problem.

What makes me even more iffy about Freya is how she's constantly talking about how the one lady will come (names escape me far too much on TO lol) and how hopeless the situation is, there's nothing you can do and yada yada. It comes off as a, 'Who's side are you really on.' I know Freya has the experience of being with that lady and knows what she's truly capable of, but if she's truly wants to earn Klaus' trust, then instead of talking all gloom and doom (like Kol did with Finn) then she instead needs to talk about prevention, how she can protect the child and when the time comes for the lady to take the child, some action in defense of the baby would also help.

Going back to the Finn thing, I'm not sure what Freya did to him in that body but he's not here anymore and the body has resumed to gone back to the previous owner, so who's to say she won't do the same to Rebekah.

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I enjoyed watching the owner of Finn's body come back. It is so funny that I didn't like him as Finn and I was ready for him to go, but as his own self, I'm OK with him. It is a bit confusing what she did with Finn, but he is no longer in that body. She keeps holding that necklace so it's like she used the power of the necklace to put his spirit somewhere else but we have yet to know where he will pop up. I don't know if his spirit is asleep in the necklace and she just has to jump him somewhere else when she is ready or what.

So I'm guessing Eva only goes after the children of witches because when she kills them, they say she does it to harness all of their powers. I'm thinking that Eva is going to be a big threat to Hope and it may be a race between her and Daliah who will get to her first. 

I'm not sure what Klaus is trying to pull with the wolves, but as you said before, I think it is an ego thing. Because to be real, Jackson WILL protect Hope, and he will use the wolves to do it, so Klaus can't use that as his excuse.

When Freya was telling Rebekah and Elijah her plan of how to suppress the real Eva, I thought it was awesome that Klaus was like "Oh yeah, right. You're just gonna put her to sleep and I'm supposed to take your word for it that this is all on the up and up". That was great - and he suggested her writing down the spells so he could get a second opinion from Divina, lol. It is so true because I was thinking the same thing. I know she's their sister and she's been through a lot, but what is your real motive and endgame here Freya?

Oh! And how creepy was that final scene with Hope in her crib?

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Oh good call on a possible future battle for Hope with Eva and Daliah! That will be very interesting indeed seeing that final battle play out. I think we may be in for a crazy finale with The Originals as well. Though every episode seems crazy with all these different factions going at each other.

When Vincent mentioned that he was unaccounted for nine months, it's just crazy thinking that all that drama with Esther, Kol, and Finn spanned over such a long period. Sheesh I don't know how Cami manages to not just want to get far away from Klaus and Marcel, especially given how vulnerable she is in all this chaos as a human lol.

And yeah I agree that last scene was creepy haha. Can't wait to see more with the baby and her undiscovered powers. I still want to know how they're going to pull off all this danger that Hope will be in when she's just a baby. There's only so much you can do with a baby acting wise so not sure what to expect there. The most is someone taking the baby and placing it on an altar or something. I can't see the baby being in a room with Klaus flying one way and Hayley the other as they fight off Daliah lol.

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Yes! I feel like every week this show gets more intense and finale-like. I can't wait to see where they take it. Speaking of the actor who played Finn, switching back to Vincent and how he did such a great job, I am interested to see how Rebekah's character now switches to being Eva because those have got to be two totally different characters - down to the accent. That will definitely be great range if she can pull it off.

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After this week's episode I'm thoroughly convinced that JP hates couples getting any form of a happy ending lol. It wasn't much of a shock though, even less when 'I love yous' were uttered I was thinking, 'One of them is going to die before they even get to escape aren't they?'

And JP of course pulls through on her typical angst.

On another note I hate that Klaus is out of commission and no one listened to him. I know they think he's crazy/controlling but do these dunderheads really think that Klaus would let any harm come to his child? I'm sure by finale things get so screwed that they'll wind up undaggering him though.

Still I'm not sure how they could think Klaus killed that wolf (before he outright lied that he did to use it to his advantage). Klaus and Elijah were with each other nearly the whole episode, then he was with Hayley. I thought when Jackson came in they'd be like, 'When was this? Klaus has been here with us this whole time.'

Why didn't any take notice of how fresh/or not the blood was? Jackson you saw him alive like what ten minutes ago? How the heck would Klaus find out about his betrayal so quickly? It's not like he would run straight to Klaus, he was planning on leaving town. I know the circumstances look bad but why would Klaus kill one less person to projecct Hope? Of course no point trying to argue against plot convenience I guess.

And I don't necessarily view TO with the same critical eye I do TVD so could have missed something lol.

Also I still don't quite trust Freya. Does she even care about Hope? Why is she trying to turn the siblings against each other? I feel a part of her may even be jealous of Hope, of her freedom. Who's to say she doesn't want Dahlia to take Hope in her place? If she was right there with Klaus, actively trying to keep Hope safe, I (along with Klaus at that) may feel she is trustworthy but as it stands now, I feel like she has a secret plan brewing.

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Apr 20, 2015 20:32:13 GMT -5 @anbuprincess said:

After this week's episode I'm thoroughly convinced that JP hates couples getting any form of a happy ending lol. It wasn't much of a shock though, even less when 'I love yous' were uttered I was thinking, 'One of them is going to die before they even get to escape aren't they?'

And JP of course pulls through on her typical angst.

On another note I hate that Klaus is out of commission and no one listened to him. I know they think he's crazy/controlling but do these dunderheads really think that Klaus would let any harm come to his child? I'm sure by finale things get so screwed that they'll wind up undaggering him though.

Still I'm not sure how they could think Klaus killed that wolf (before he outright lied that he did to use it to his advantage). Klaus and Elijah were with each other nearly the whole episode, then he was with Hayley. I thought when Jackson came in they'd be like, 'When was this? Klaus has been here with us this whole time.'

Why didn't any take notice of how fresh/or not the blood was? Jackson you saw him alive like what ten minutes ago? How the heck would Klaus find out about his betrayal so quickly? It's not like he would run straight to Klaus, he was planning on leaving town. I know the circumstances look bad but why would Klaus kill one less person to projecct Hope? Of course no point trying to argue against plot convenience I guess.

And I don't necessarily view TO with the same critical eye I do TVD so could have missed something lol.

Also I still don't quite trust Freya. Does she even care about Hope? Why is she trying to turn the siblings against each other? I feel a part of her may even be jealous of Hope, of her freedom. Who's to say she doesn't want Dahlia to take Hope in her place? If she was right there with Klaus, actively trying to keep Hope safe, I (along with Klaus at that) may feel she is trustworthy but as it stands now, I feel like she has a secret plan brewing.

Ugh. For some reason I always forget that TO is on Mondays. I'll have to watch tomorrow and come back, lol. Funny, at 8:00 I was like, hmmm, what's on tonight. The Voice? Ah, nothin. Hahaha.