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Post by Doppelgänger on Oct 11, 2014 10:07:05 GMT -5
Yeah I was looking forward to the fun, witty banter but it's gotten a bit repetitive now. How many times has Bonnie pronounced she hated Damon or he was her last favorite that episode? And it's not some thin line between love and hate thing. They both just get on each other's nerves and it's getting old. Delena never got that childish and repetitive with Elena always proclaiming, 'I hate you! Go away!' and Damon didn't try to intentionally annoy her for the hell of it. They're always in the kitchen as well, I welcome that change of scenery at the grocery store. Yeah and how many pancakes can they eat? lol I hope something changes and quick or the whole Bamon thing will be a major flop. |
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Post by Doppelgänger on Oct 11, 2014 10:18:49 GMT -5
Honestly unless JP decides to do something completely loony (which we can never rule out) I think that this Bamon stuff will stay just the way it is. Nothing has really changed as far as I can see between them. They still rub each other the wrong way the entire time and I see why. I mean Bonnie is sort of a straight laced stick in the mud...better suited for Stefan in all honesty and Damon is a fun loving impulsive guy...like they have nothing in common at all, except pancakes...lol...and Bonnie says she doesn't even like them. ha! And Elena. Their personalities clash big time. I'm the same way, I hate straight laced straight faced people big time so that's why I've never liked Bonnie myself!
In conclusion I think the Bamons will be very disappointed in the end because they've taken such a leap in what they think will happen with these two and I can't for the life of me figure out how they could come to that conclusion but let's face it, the entire ship has always been so AU. So they're getting their AU...complete fan service if you ask me but I don't think even JP is crazy enough to do anything much with them. They won't however get to complain later about them not getting their 'chance.' We'll probably see some 'Damon protecting Bonnie' stuff that they can swoon over, but he does that all the time regardless, and then they can post those Bamon pics for all of eternity thereafter.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2014 9:10:51 GMT -5
I agree with this. I couldn't quite point out what felt 'off' to me after the first couple scenes or so, but the scenes have gotten cringeworthy and somewhat embarrassing to watch.
From lovesmefromthegroundup tumblr.
IKR? Tbh we aren’t the only ones or even the minority. That’s what made it unbearable for me, because as much as I dread any ship having more chemistry than mine - in whatever sense - I still want the acting to be decent and it to feel natural, no matter what dynamic. Here, idek man. If Ian and Kat are trying to make it shippable, it’s such a fail. Damon had more chemistry with a necklace, an inanimate object, than he did with Bonnie the entire episode and like the only scene that I could watch without cringeing was the last BD scene and the first was okay but there was overacting trying to fit a generic comedy show dynamic. It was lame and at first I was laughing at the lack of chemistry then I started dreading them because NEVER, like never have I ever dreaded Damon scenes, even when I hated the Denzo scenes. But now, I’m like stop this forced stuff and make BD focus on the plot and once they get back I need to see Damon scenes around the characters he gels with more, in terms of chemistry. Because after th
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Post by Doppelgänger on Oct 12, 2014 10:07:17 GMT -5
I agree with this. I couldn't quite point out what felt 'off' to me after the first couple scenes or so, but the scenes have gotten cringeworthy and somewhat embarrassing to watch. From lovesmefromthegroundup tumblr. IKR? Tbh we aren’t the only ones or even the minority. That’s what made it unbearable for me, because as much as I dread any ship having more chemistry than mine - in whatever sense - I still want the acting to be decent and it to feel natural, no matter what dynamic. Here, idek man. If Ian and Kat are trying to make it shippable, it’s such a fail. Damon had more chemistry with a necklace, an inanimate object, than he did with Bonnie the entire episode and like the only scene that I could watch without cringeing was the last BD scene and the first was okay but there was overacting trying to fit a generic comedy show dynamic. It was lame and at first I was laughing at the lack of chemistry then I started dreading them because NEVER, like never have I ever dreaded Damon scenes, even when I hated the Denzo scenes. But now, I’m like stop this forced stuff and make BD focus on the plot and once they get back I need to see Damon scenes around the characters he gels with more, in terms of chemistry. Because after th I totally agree. I don't see this chemistry some people seem to see with them and I feel like Kat is not that great of an actress now that I have seen her in all these scenes with Damon and that's a shame because I really didn't notice it before. I think the producers knew it and that's why she never got so much screen time. I think they gave them this because it's what Ian wanted maybe to sign on for more seasons? He wanted to get to work with her and he has but I don't see anything stellar about it thus far. People have been bored and it's different but that's really all I can give it. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2014 20:17:19 GMT -5
I really think Bamons are hyping themselves up for disappointment if they think once Bamon is released that somehow their four month escapade in limbo will lead to something romantic.
Since when has JP ever been that kind to a ship on this show? Bamon isn't going to get thrown together so easily and they're all happily ever after. In fact I don't even think they'll spend much time together once they even return.
I can already hear Bonnie saying, 'I could barely go four months without him driving me nuts! How'd you deal with him (how could Elena deal with him) as your (as her) boyfriend for an entire year!'
I feel their storylines will separate and Bonnie might go back and do her whole disappearing from every odd something episode. And if her magic returns with her, great now she's resorted back to 'witch duty'.
Damon's already showing frustrations with her in the AU because she doesn't have her witch powers and even more frustrations as she's taking a long time to relearn them. |
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Post by Doppelgänger on Oct 12, 2014 21:53:28 GMT -5
Yes and I think we're already up to speed and the current date with them and not much has changed with them as far as I can see. They're dealing, but they have nobody else to deal with so they kind of have to. I mean I'm seeing Bamons take the leap that because he said she talked in her sleep that they are sleeping together. I mean c'mon? I've never seen a ship that took such leaps in their imagination but I guess that's how they've always been cause there's never really been a Bamon.
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Post by missmystic on Oct 14, 2014 12:19:17 GMT -5
I totally agree with you guys, there is ZERO, I mean less than zero, chemistry between Damon and Bonnie. In fact, it feels so stale that it's actually making Damon boring ... I never thought that could happen, but congratulations TVD, you've accomplished the impossible! Their scenes are duller than dull. It's almost like a joke, it really doesn't feel real. I know the Bamon fans really want this to happen, and they are harping on every little detail to prove it makes sense, but come on! How can they not see that these 2 people have no chemistry? It's like watching siblings interact. Siblings who aren't very close lol. I'm just afraid that all the Bamon craziness is going to sway the writers. But if the Powers That Be are dumb enough to let that happen, then maybe they deserve for their show to fail. Because it will, if they do that.
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Post by Doppelgänger on Oct 14, 2014 19:04:10 GMT -5
I keep seeing people claiming Bamon are now 'canon,' and I'm thinking canon what? Nothing has changed with them. They still aren't a couple so what the heck do they mean Bamon is canon? Are these people that delusional? I really shouldn't ask because these are the same people who've been seeing Bamon while Bonnie was trying to light Damon on fire and when Damon was attacking Bonnie and biting her. They've been more friendly for a while now, friendly as in, not actively hating each other and trying to kill each other so I don't see what's different and 'canon' about them now. I find it annoying and weird that these people act like they see something that I clearly do not.
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Post by Doppelgänger on Oct 14, 2014 19:04:44 GMT -5
I totally agree with you guys, there is ZERO, I mean less than zero, chemistry between Damon and Bonnie. In fact, it feels so stale that it's actually making Damon boring ... I never thought that could happen, but congratulations TVD, you've accomplished the impossible! Their scenes are duller than dull. It's almost like a joke, it really doesn't feel real. I know the Bamon fans really want this to happen, and they are harping on every little detail to prove it makes sense, but come on! How can they not see that these 2 people have no chemistry? It's like watching siblings interact. Siblings who aren't very close lol. I'm just afraid that all the Bamon craziness is going to sway the writers. But if the Powers That Be are dumb enough to let that happen, then maybe they deserve for their show to fail. Because it will, if they do that. I know right? They actually found a way to make Damon boring....gratz writers! I mean what are they on that they thought we'd want to watch them eat pancakes for two (maybe more) episodes? They aren't even doing their groundhog day right...it's just repetitive and I think I'd want to kill Bonnie if I were stuck with her for 4 months while she whines about the pancakes every damn day. I'm waiting for Damon to tell her to stfu or maybe try to choke her with pancakes...THAT might be interesting to watch! |
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Post by missmystic on Oct 14, 2014 19:39:12 GMT -5
I totally agree with you guys, there is ZERO, I mean less than zero, chemistry between Damon and Bonnie. In fact, it feels so stale that it's actually making Damon boring ... I never thought that could happen, but congratulations TVD, you've accomplished the impossible! Their scenes are duller than dull. It's almost like a joke, it really doesn't feel real. I know the Bamon fans really want this to happen, and they are harping on every little detail to prove it makes sense, but come on! How can they not see that these 2 people have no chemistry? It's like watching siblings interact. Siblings who aren't very close lol. I'm just afraid that all the Bamon craziness is going to sway the writers. But if the Powers That Be are dumb enough to let that happen, then maybe they deserve for their show to fail. Because it will, if they do that. I know right? They actually found a way to make Damon boring....gratz writers! I mean what are they on that they thought we'd want to watch them eat pancakes for two (maybe more) episodes? They aren't even doing their groundhog day right...it's just repetitive and I think I'd want to kill Bonnie if I were stuck with her for 4 months while she whines about the pancakes every damn day. I'm waiting for Damon to tell her to stfu or maybe try to choke her with pancakes...THAT might be interesting to watch! I know! Shouldn't she be grateful that he's cooking for her?? How about, "thank you so much Damon for this food you have made to keep me alive!" It's not like he's cooking pancakes for his own servival, he's a vampire! She's a jerk lol, whining at him like that ... Anyways lol, yeah :-) |
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Post by Doppelgänger on Oct 14, 2014 19:48:37 GMT -5
I know right? They actually found a way to make Damon boring....gratz writers! I mean what are they on that they thought we'd want to watch them eat pancakes for two (maybe more) episodes? They aren't even doing their groundhog day right...it's just repetitive and I think I'd want to kill Bonnie if I were stuck with her for 4 months while she whines about the pancakes every damn day. I'm waiting for Damon to tell her to stfu or maybe try to choke her with pancakes...THAT might be interesting to watch! I know! Shouldn't she be grateful that he's cooking for her?? How about, "thank you so much Damon for this food you have made to keep me alive!" It's not like he's cooking pancakes for his own servival, he's a vampire! She's a jerk lol, whining at him like that ... Anyways lol, yeah :-) Yes the food he has apparently made every day for her ungrateful ass....lol I swear nobody appreciates Damon....well...except Elena who now had to forget she loved him in order to make it another day without him...ugh. |
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Post by Doppelgänger on Oct 16, 2014 7:55:53 GMT -5
ian.♡ @delenaotp · 3m3 minutes ago
But shipping Bamon romantically is just a big no. Ian & Kat don't have any chemistry imo.
I agree with the above. If anything I get a brother/sister vibe off them and that's probably because they are such good friends irl. Just the way they needle each other all day long is just like siblings like there's this general dislike under there but they still care about each other...totally sibling like to me which is OK for Bamon. It's better than outright hate toward each other.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2014 10:07:08 GMT -5
Sometimes it feels like people don't understand chemistry. Though I guess it all is subjective. But it feels like people take a scene where Damon and Bonnie are bickering and just shouting, 'Look at that love/hate chemistry!'
If you compared the scenes Damon and Bonnie had in season's 2 Plan B where they take out Mason, or even their season 1 scenes where Bonnie was afraid of Damon as he was after her amulet, it's much more different compared to their scenes in season 6.
That scene where Bonnie exclaims how much she hates Damon and starts to storm out angrily just feels really overdone and embarrassingly cheesy. Bonnie's usually the calm one in situations, it's weird seeing her get so bothered by comments that are just said to annoy her. The old Bonnie would have just rolled her eyes and brushed it off, getting back to her grimoire.
I think it's obvious that the Bamon scenes are fanbaiting, someone brought up the grocery scene on tumblr. Why are they meeting Kai there of all places? It's so out of place for this show. The grocery shopping between the two is only there for the scene to look cute, just like all the pancake and flipping scenes. Simply fanservice to hook people who are into Bamon in watching that will ultimately lead nowhere. After what JP did with Klaroline, I'm not sure why it's thought that Bamon will turn out any different. |
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Post by missmystic on Oct 16, 2014 10:12:16 GMT -5
Anyone who thinks Damon and Bonnie have chemistry obviously has no idea what chemistry is. There is about as much sizzle in their scenes together as there is in a glass of milk. I am not being biased here. I am a Delena fan, true, and I want nothing more than to see a satisfying conclusion to this show that includes a Delena happy ending. But with how much and how often they have screwed up the Delena storyline over the last couple of years, to be quite honest if they presented me with an agreeable alternative I might be persuaded to give up my Delena dreams. Damon is the end all be all of TVD, no one holds a candle to him. Elena was the heroine, and once upon a time she was a good heroine. She may be again, I'm holding onto faith for now, but if there was someone else in Damon's life that fit him better, that he had better chemistry with, that would make a great romantic story arc, I would get on board with it! I seriously would. But there really truly is NO chemistry between Bonnie and Damon (or Kat and Ian), none at all. They absolutely do feel like siblings.
Under different circumstances the hate-to-love storylines are often favorites of mine. I call them the "Benedict and Beatrice romances" (Much Ado About Nothing). But they have to have chemistry to work! Examples: Joey and Pacy, Sher and Josh (Clueless), Buffy and Spike, Joseph and Shannon (Far and Away), Logan and Veronica, and there are millions more but you get the idea. If Damon and Bonnie had the chemistry of any of these couples, I could be persuaded to enjoy a romance between them. But they don't. Not an ounce. It's worse than when Cordelia and Wesley tried to kiss (Buffy fans, you remember that?? So awkward lol). It's funny, because I keep seeing posts from Bamon fans talking about how chemistry isn't something you can write into a script, or something you can plan for, that it either happens or it doesn't. And they're using this statement like it's an argument for their case. But in fact it's the exact reason why their ship will never sail. Because they are right, you can't MAKE chemistry happen. And Damon and Bonnie don't have it, plain and simple.
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Post by Doppelgänger on Oct 16, 2014 10:17:43 GMT -5
Sometimes it feels like people don't understand chemistry. Though I guess it all is subjective. But it feels like people take a scene where Damon and Bonnie are bickering and just shouting, 'Look at that love/hate chemistry!'
If you compared the scenes Damon and Bonnie had in season's 2 Plan B where they take out Mason, or even their season 1 scenes where Bonnie was afraid of Damon as he was after her amulet, it's much more different compared to their scenes in season 6.
That scene where Bonnie exclaims how much she hates Damon and starts to storm out angrily just feels really overdone and embarrassingly cheesy. Bonnie's usually the calm one in situations, it's weird seeing her get so bothered by comments that are just said to annoy her. The old Bonnie would have just rolled her eyes and brushed it off, getting back to her grimoire.
I think it's obvious that the Bamon scenes are fanbaiting, someone brought up the grocery scene on tumblr. Why are they meeting Kai there of all places? It's so out of place for this show. The grocery shopping between the two is only there for the scene to look cute, just like all the pancake and flipping scenes. Simply fanservice to hook people who are into Bamon in watching that will ultimately lead nowhere. After what JP did with Klaroline, I'm not sure why it's thought that Bamon will turn out any different. No way Bamon is going anywhere but down the drain. I really hate though that there are people who are so bored with the current storylines that this Bonnie and Damon story is interesting to them because to me it really isn't. They're just doing mundane things so far. Hopefully that Kai will shake things up and make it more interesting. |
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