Post by Doppelgänger on Oct 8, 2014 11:34:22 GMT -5
Soooo....I didn't want to post any spoilers for this show in the regular thread and I probably don't want to know too much about the upcoming episodes and/or what may happen BUT I wanted to talk about this next episode and what may be in it. While I was watching an interview a 'spanking' was mentioned as coming up in the show and doing some looking around it seems it is labeled a 'beating' in the books, where Jamie apparently uses his sword belt to spank Claire and reading people's reactions to that. I'm not stranger to historical fiction and spankings in this context in fiction. This would not be a controversy for most of history, in fact. I haven't read the books at all so I don't know exactly how it is portrayed but from the snippets I have read she seems quite put off by it. I think THAT is probably more inaccurate than the idea itself and I'll tell you why. Spanking your wife was perfectly acceptable in 1945, too! and that is the era that she comes from. Now of course the writer does not come from that time and chooses to make it a controversy between them but really if she were going for historical accuracy Claire would have most likely accepted the punishment as somewhat normal...weirdly enough to us in the 21st century.
She would most likely not be so quick to be outraged about it, even if she wanted it to not be a part of her marriage and instead would have tried to sway him in another direction not threaten to kill him if he did it again...lol So I don't think that is too accurate for her time either! I just thought I'd mention that! But perhaps the writer wanted to make Claire even more forward thinking than her time. I'm glad the writer didn't avoid the subject albeit extremely controversial and in other books it has made many a woman close the book never to pick it back up again but it IS historically accurate for him to feel he had a right to do it. As repugnant as women of our time feel it is, it would be inaccurate had the writer not gone there only because we would find it so and I feel she did still compromise on it a bit by making Claire so strongly against it.
Having said all that, of course I hate the very idea of it and I am glad that in our time this is totally unacceptable but this story isn't about our time! But it sounds like in the end Jamie is the one who learns a new approach to dealing with stuff like this and that's really the lesson here I'd say is that he is willing to compromise for her because he loves her and if she's not OK with it, he's not OK with it. His friends would be disgusted with him but he doesn't care because it's her opinion of him that holds the most sway for him. So as controversial as it was, that is what it teaches me about Jamie, not that he's a barbarian who beats his wife.
Now a little evidence that in 1945 it was still perfectly acceptable to spank your wife. These Lucy episodes were from the 1950's! This would never have been on prime time television if it weren't an accurate depiction of a husband and wife relationship at the time: