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Post by Doppelgänger on Oct 3, 2014 17:08:18 GMT -5
HaHa. The Stelenas/PWs are all mad at Stefan for answering Elena's call but being a douche to Caroline. Even they see what a dick he is.  That's surprising lol. You'd think the SE's would be happy that he answered Elena but not Caroline since most of them are against Steroline and all that jazz lol He was useless to Elena and he even hung up on her! wth? Stefan is such a douche. He has no more use for Elena so he treats her like dirt, same goes for Caroline. He's a misogynistic ass and they try to act like he always does the right thing. The right thing would be to keep trying to find your brother, even if you have no hope, like Damon did for you, dirtbag! God, I just hate Stefan with a passion, I swear. |
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Post by Charlotte on Oct 3, 2014 17:17:26 GMT -5
The SEs are mad because Elena called Stefan to tell them how losing Damon is killing her; because Elena never gave a damn about Stefan during a)when she slept with Damon; b) confessed her love for Damon with Stefan in the room and c) didn't exactly notice that Stefan was dead when he was dead. They are also pissed that if there is SE after compulsion it won't be real. One SE posted that Alaric will compel Elena and Stefan will make him uncompel her because he believes in choice -- And always does the right thing. (except he wanted to be compelled himself of Elena.) hahaha.
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Post by Charlotte on Oct 3, 2014 17:21:10 GMT -5
I do believe it is kind of insensitive for Elena to share her deepest feelings about Damon with Stefan. It is hard to be an SE right now. I could almost feel sorry for them except they are so rotten to Damon -- the only reason the show is in its 6th year. (So instead I am secretly delighting in their pain). But Stefan seemed in character for me this episode. Not dealing. Lying. etc.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2014 17:48:07 GMT -5
Though to be fair, the only reason Elena did call him was because she believed that he was searching for Damon and I have a feeling that Stefan knew what that call would be about but opted to answer Elena over Caroline anyways.
I always like moments where Stefan gets to 'hear' these things from Elena because it puts things into perspective for him as well since he couldn't believe that Elena would choose Damon over him. It would also make him come off very shady if he even thought about trying to move on with Elena again despite knowing full well how she felt. It's still bad that he managed to fall for Katlena despite everything though. |
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Post by Doppelgänger on Oct 3, 2014 17:55:41 GMT -5
I do believe it is kind of insensitive for Elena to share her deepest feelings about Damon with Stefan. It is hard to be an SE right now. I could almost feel sorry for them except they are so rotten to Damon -- the only reason the show is in its 6th year. (So instead I am secretly delighting in their pain). But Stefan seemed in character for me this episode. Not dealing. Lying. etc. He's totally in character except it's not the character they think he is. I don't even know how they cannot see it! |
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Post by Doppelgänger on Oct 16, 2014 7:34:25 GMT -5
Hehehe...
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Post by missmystic on Oct 16, 2014 9:16:55 GMT -5
Hehehe...
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!  |
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Post by missmystic on Oct 16, 2014 9:24:49 GMT -5
Ok, I know some of you guys aren't really Enzo fans, but did anyone else want to do a little gig in the last episode when he was taking Stefan to task for all his bull****?? Because I WAS!!! I didn't even care that he killed that girl (I mean, it's too bad for her, she didn't deserve to die or anything, but I really didn't feel bad). Stefan is a total D-bag. Seriously, like I didn't think his character could get any crappier, but after the last couple episodes I actually hate him. There were a bunch of episodes last season where I thought he might be starting to grow and become a better person ... but NOPE, they decided to go in the complete opposite direction!!! What a d***, seriously. Damon would never have given up on him. Not ever. Enzo is doing and saying everything I want to say to Stefan. I love it. And the way Stefan is treating Caroline, he seriously sucks so much!! He didn't even listen to her messages. He didn't even care about her. I love that she bit**** him out, I was like, "atta girl Caroline!!!"
yeah, I pretty much hate Stefan's guts right now. HERO MY A**
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Post by Doppelgänger on Oct 16, 2014 9:49:26 GMT -5
Ok, I know some of you guys aren't really Enzo fans, but did anyone else want to do a little gig in the last episode when he was taking Stefan to task for all his bull****?? Because I WAS!!! I didn't even care that he killed that girl (I mean, it's too bad for her, she didn't deserve to die or anything, but I really didn't feel bad). Stefan is a total D-bag. Seriously, like I didn't think his character could get any crappier, but after the last couple episodes I actually hate him. There were a bunch of episodes last season where I thought he might be starting to grow and become a better person ... but NOPE, they decided to go in the complete opposite direction!!! What a d***, seriously. Damon would never have given up on him. Not ever. Enzo is doing and saying everything I want to say to Stefan. I love it. And the way Stefan is treating Caroline, he seriously sucks so much!! He didn't even listen to her messages. He didn't even care about her. I love that she bit**** him out, I was like, "atta girl Caroline!!!" yeah, I pretty much hate Stefan's guts right now. HERO MY A** Yeah like someone in this darn show finally did! That I can give Enzo credit for! Alert to Steleners, the sun does not shine out of Stefan's ass. He can be a giant dick when he wants to be. How selfish was that of him to just go make a new life and forget all of them, not even tell them, not answer or even listen to Caroline's calls...yeah he's a dick alright. She got that right! |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2014 9:54:34 GMT -5
Ok, I know some of you guys aren't really Enzo fans, but did anyone else want to do a little gig in the last episode when he was taking Stefan to task for all his bull****?? Because I WAS!!! I didn't even care that he killed that girl (I mean, it's too bad for her, she didn't deserve to die or anything, but I really didn't feel bad). Stefan is a total D-bag. Seriously, like I didn't think his character could get any crappier, but after the last couple episodes I actually hate him. There were a bunch of episodes last season where I thought he might be starting to grow and become a better person ... but NOPE, they decided to go in the complete opposite direction!!! What a d***, seriously. Damon would never have given up on him. Not ever. Enzo is doing and saying everything I want to say to Stefan. I love it. And the way Stefan is treating Caroline, he seriously sucks so much!! He didn't even listen to her messages. He didn't even care about her. I love that she bit**** him out, I was like, "atta girl Caroline!!!" yeah, I pretty much hate Stefan's guts right now. HERO MY A** Hah you're not only on that part, I was fist pumping when Enzo said that as well! I was a bit iffy about Enzo because I wasn't sure where he would stand in his relationship with Damon, if he would still carry that grudge or not but he seems firmly on team Damon and I liked that Enzo sped things up instead of us having two or three episodes focusing on Stefan's fake relationship.
I also don't really blame Enzo for that girl's death. I blame Stefan. I know it's weird since Enzo was the one to kill her, but Stefan was the one who once again inserted himself into someone's life and didn't tell her anything about himself while he knew everything about her. When he said, 'I'm a vampire' she didn't even take it seriously and Stefan let the 'joke' ride on like that. It's really scary imagining how Ivy must have felt, beginning to fall for this guy and then all of a sudden two of his 'friends' burst in and she's looking around all crazy as they spout out all these things about Stefan moving to a new town and them being surprised about it.
NEVERMIND! I was confused about the message thing, Caroline's voice over made me think Stefan was listening to it lol
As for Stefan and the messages, that part is a bit confusing. We were shown that Stefan did listen to Caroline's message in that scene, he just deleted it/didn't respond to it. Caroline came to the conclusion herself that he probably didn't listen to the messages and Stefan let her believe it, probably because he was already feeling guilty. Though in a way him listening and not responding would make her feel even worst as he would have heard how she was 'falling apart without him' but just opted flat out not to respond at all.
Going back to the Enzo telling Stefan about how bad a brother he was, it was a bit hilarious looking around at other fans and seeing them be all mad at Enzo and then right out some long rants about how Damon is the bad one and blah blah blah. Same old stuff.
Also in regards to that gif set, you know some SE's/Stefan stans still bring up the argument as how this is Stefan's story still lol
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Post by Doppelgänger on Oct 16, 2014 10:02:48 GMT -5
Stefan's story just because he was the voiceover in the beginning? Not hardly! Yeah it's his story and Damon's story and Elena's story and everyone else's story, too...duh...get your collective heads out of Stefan's ass.
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Post by Doppelgänger on Oct 16, 2014 21:01:26 GMT -5
This...with one change...I don't like him and I don't respect him, I just want him to be honest. Will the real Stefan Salvatore please stand up! Yes, he's a genuine dick...so be a dick Stefan, that's who you really are! Embrace the dickhead that you are!
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Post by Sweetluv4DE on Oct 16, 2014 21:54:06 GMT -5
This...with one change...I don't like him and I don't respect him, I just want him to be honest. Will the real Stefan Salvatore please stand up! Yes, he's a genuine dick...so be a dick Stefan, that's who you really are! Embrace the dickhead that you are!
See I think Paul gets this. He asked JP what is Stefan going to be doing about Damon and she said looking for him of course and he said.... No he's not. He's doing this! And JP said she loved it! So yes I think Paul gets that Stefan is a dickhead and JP still wants her hero. |
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Post by Doppelgänger on Oct 16, 2014 22:16:49 GMT -5
This...with one change...I don't like him and I don't respect him, I just want him to be honest. Will the real Stefan Salvatore please stand up! Yes, he's a genuine dick...so be a dick Stefan, that's who you really are! Embrace the dickhead that you are!
See I think Paul gets this. He asked JP what is Stefan going to be doing about Damon and she said looking for him of course and he said.... No he's not. He's doing this! And JP said she loved it! So yes I think Paul gets that Stefan is a dickhead and JP still wants her hero. Well I think it would be fantastic to show Stefan NOT changing, not growing, not improving. We all know guys like him, right? The fakes. The phonies who think they are fooling everyone with their bs but they aren't fooling anyone...well maybe Stefan has, but I would love to see. to the horror of the gang, that they all come to grips with the fact that Stefan blew into town, lied to them, especially about Damon (remember my long list of his lies from the CW forum? Well I do!) fooled them into believing he was this great guy and it was all fake! So now he's going to teach Elena how to be a fake...and maybe she'll be the first to realize it. Stefan is some kind of psychopath, truly. That's the sort of thing psychopaths do. They don't form attachments. They use people and when they're done, they move on. A huge clue is that as a vampire he's a Ripper. That didn't come out of a vacuum. Stefan at his core is an empty psychopathic person. Psychopaths are great at playing the victim so nobody suspects they really feel nothing at all.
I think we talked once about what Stefan would be like had he remained human and we discussed him being a serial killer. I could totally see him living a double life like so many serial killers do, murdering people and smiling at his unsuspecting wife and kids...
Maybe in the end of the series Stefan will turn out to be the big bad...maybe when they talked about an unredeemable villain they were talking about him...that would be the ultimate twist and I would love it...the framework is right there for it...and part of the audience is already fooled.
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Post by missmystic on Oct 17, 2014 8:00:53 GMT -5
See I think Paul gets this. He asked JP what is Stefan going to be doing about Damon and she said looking for him of course and he said.... No he's not. He's doing this! And JP said she loved it! So yes I think Paul gets that Stefan is a dickhead and JP still wants her hero. Well I think it would be fantastic to show Stefan NOT changing, not growing, not improving. We all know guys like him, right? The fakes. The phonies who think they are fooling everyone with their bs but they aren't fooling anyone...well maybe Stefan has, but I would love to see. to the horror of the gang, that they all come to grips with the fact that Stefan blew into town, lied to them, especially about Damon (remember my long list of his lies from the CW forum? Well I do!) fooled them into believing he was this great guy and it was all fake! So now he's going to teach Elena how to be a fake...and maybe she'll be the first to realize it. Stefan is some kind of psychopath, truly. That's the sort of thing psychopaths do. They don't form attachments. They use people and when they're done, they move on. A huge clue is that as a vampire he's a Ripper. That didn't come out of a vacuum. Stefan at his core is an empty psychopathic person. Psychopaths are great at playing the victim so nobody suspects they really feel nothing at all.
I think we talked once about what Stefan would be like had he remained human and we discussed him being a serial killer. I could totally see him living a double life like so many serial killers do, murdering people and smiling at his unsuspecting wife and kids...
Maybe in the end of the series Stefan will turn out to be the big bad...maybe when they talked about an unredeemable villain they were talking about him...that would be the ultimate twist and I would love it...the framework is right there for it...and part of the audience is already fooled.
I totally agree. I was thinking the same thing last night actually. Watching him be so cold and calculating when he was talking to his boss, it was seriously creepy. I think it would make perfect sense for him to become the big bad, and I think it would actually make a really interesting story. I wish they would do that. But I don't think JP and CD have the balls to go there. They are no Joss Whedon. |
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i always avoid when its on hiatus here to avoid spoilers
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i always avoid when its on hiatus here to avoid spoilers
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